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Stoudemire is low class

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Val, Jan 16, 2003.

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  1. Val

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    This posts reveals the humility of Yao Ming (with a Phil Jackson type of nature) versus that low class ghetto thug ball player (who seems to happen to fit well with Marbury). I hope Amare breaks his leg or something.

    From ESPN insider:

    Rookie of the Year?

    Yao Ming may be the people's (and the fawning media's) choice for rookie of the year . . .

    But Amare Stoudemire, and the other 28 terrified starting power forwards in the league, may beg to differ.

    Yao Ming
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    2002-2003 SEASON STATISTICS
    GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
    37 12.9 7.9 1.4 .534 .766


    Yes, Yao is awesome. He may already be the second-best center in the NBA behind Shaq. His transition from the international game in China to the NBA has been remarkable. And no one since Charles Barkley left the NBA gives a better interview.

    With all of that said, if the season ended today, Stoudemire deserves to be the league's Rookie of the Year.

    We can debate stats and team records. They're virtually the same. Stoudemire is averaging 13.1 ppg to Yao's 12.9 ppg. Stoudemire's averaging 9.4 rpg to Yao's 7.4 rpg. Yao's averaging 2 bpg to Stoudemire's 1.08. The Suns are 24-16. The Rockets are 22-15.

    Amare Stoudemire
    Forward-Center
    Phoenix Suns
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    2002-2003 SEASON STATISTICS
    GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
    40 13.1 9.4 0.9 .464 .670


    That doesn't tell the whole story. While Yao seems to have hit the wall a bit in January, Stoudemire continues to progress at a rapid rate.

    In November, Yao averaged 10.1 ppg and 5.3 rpg on 67 percent shooting. In January, he's averaging 11.93 ppg and 9.3 rpg on 40 percent shooting. In November, Stoudemire averaged 8.4 ppg and 7.9 rpg on 36 percent shooting. In January he's averaging 16.1 ppg and 11.3 rpg on 46 percent shooting.

    That isn't the whole story, however. Like Yao, Stoudemire's transition to the the NBA wasn't supposed to be easy. No high school player since Kevin Garnett has made such a big impact as a rookie. And Stoudemire's troubled background should have been more than enough to slow down his development for a few years.

    While Yao's Rockets are in playoff contention, many expected them to be in this position without Yao. The Suns, on the other hand, were predicted to be one of the two or three worst teams in the West this season. The emergence of Stoudemire has been the biggest reason why the Suns have greatly exceeded expectations.

    Stoudemire took it to Yao and the Rockets on Wednesday, and after the game said he's not sure what the big deal is with Yao.

    "He's tall," Stoudemire told the Arizona Republic. "He's got some low-post moves. I mean, he's not a bad player. [He had] pretty much the same stats. First game I think he had 10 points and two rebounds. This time he had 11 points and seven rebounds. The first time we played, I had like four points and two rebounds myself. I think my game has developed a lot more."

    While Stoudemire wasn't awed by Yao, the Rockets' Chinese-born star was impressed with Stoudemire.

    "It seems like he's played for several years already," Yao said through an interpreter. "I heard he's only 20 years old. I think when I was 20, I was only half his width."

    And when someone asked Yao whether he could envision a long career in the NBA, he joked, "If there aren't more players like Stoudemire in the future, I think I can last."

    If Yao thinks Stoudemire's tough, wait until he gets a piece of Shaq on Friday. The big fella's looking to put a lickin on Yao. If he stays out of foul trouble and in one piece, it will be a miracle.

    "Oh bro, man, I've played against Shaq and Yao Ming and I've guarded them both," Stoudemire said. "I'll tell you what, Shaq is a monster, bro. And Yao is developing. Look for Shaq to have a big game. You know Shaq is my favorite player, so you know I'm going to talk about Shaq."
     
  2. rocketfan83

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    What part of that was Low Class?
     
  3. heypartner

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    You are a true jerk and *******. Amare is a class individual. No father, no mother really, brother in jail, raising himself and his siblings. Works his ass off, and you call him a "thug."

    You are a racist ******* for blindly calling someone a ghetto thug ball player...and what the **** is up with attaching ghetto thug to ball player anyhow. A ghetto thug is a ghetto thug whether he plays ball or not. Amare is not a ghetto thug and that is why he is soooo freaking successful and likeable right now.

    Rudy has talked to the kid and loves his personality

    you know jack **** about Amare, and assume that because he's a brute he is a low class thug. Like do you really believe all brutes in the NFL are low class....how about Karl Malone or Kevin Willis or Wilt or Shaq. Who exactly is a low class ghetto thug.

    you are are ****-ing low class ******* for your comments. And I know people just like you that say the same they. Every one of them has used the word n-igger in my presence, and everyone of them is a closet racist b*stard with education and without.

    you suck
     
  4. rocketfan83

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    "He's tall," - Yes Yao is 7'6, He is tall Amare you are correct.

    He's got some low-post moves"- Yes again Amare is correct.

    I mean, he's not a bad player- Again Amare is correct.

    [He had] pretty much the same stats. First game I think he had 10 points and two rebounds. This time he had 11 points and seven rebounds. The first time we played, I had like four points and two rebounds myself. ---- Amare is correct again and this time he even backs up his claim.

    I think my game has developed a lot more." - Debateable but Amare has defintely played over the last few weeks for sure.


    Oh bro, man, I've played against Shaq and Yao Ming and I've guarded them both," - Yes the Suns have played both La and Houston AMare is correct again.


    I'll tell you what, Shaq is a monster, bro. And Yao is developing.-----Yes Shaq is big and Yao is a rookie and still improving. Amare is correct again.

    Look for Shaq to have a big game. You know Shaq is my favorite player, so you know I'm going to talk about Shaq."--Again Amare is probaly correct a 10 year old veteran should outplay a rookie and their first H2H matchup.

    Again I ask why is this low Class. and how is he a thug?
     
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    He's cocky on the floor and has a nasty scowl, but he's no thug. This kid's got a bright future. As a Rockets fan, we need to cheer for our players, but let's not be biased. The kid is playing better than Yao right now. What's so hard to understand. Yao has hit some type of wall, but is still contributing in many ways besides scoring and rebounding. Nothing wrong with that. That said, Amare has not hit any wall besides Shaq, and is still going strong. So Amare is leading in the ROY race, so accept it. Don't hate.
     
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    Amare Stoudemire is not low class but who wrote that article? Talk about low class.

    A few weeks ago, ESPN is riding Yao's jock to the max. He has a couple of bad games and now theyre ripping him.

    Theyre using Yao's modesty against him while praising Amare for his lack of mutual respect. That's not a slam against Amare. It's just the difference between the cultures - a nuance obviously lost on the writer.

    1. Amare is 20 years old. He's the equivalent of most College Juniors so excuse me if I'm not overwhelmed comparing him to other HS stars.

    He's already a very good player but Im sick and tired of that he's the best HS kid ever to come out. The difference between 18 and 20 is huge in mental and physical development.

    2. Amare came from a tough childhood and his life has definitely been tough than Yao's. However, I don't see how his basketball circumstances were tougher. Imagine someone dropped you in the middle of some foreign country and expected you to adjust to culture, language, immense pressure, and 12 straight months of basketball with no break.

    Isnt this some of the same B.S. that we were hearing before the draft. Why is it a shock that at his first struggles, this type of crap comes out again.

    yeah, he really took it to the Rockets. They make it sound like the Suns won. Yes, it's all about the stats and one on one matchups. :rolleyes:


    Who wrote that article?
     
  8. Deckard

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    Thanks, heypartner. Well said and very deserved by... who was that guy??
     
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    Wow! HP goes off! I would love to have Amare on my team! I'll go to battle with that kid any day.
     
  10. CriscoKidd

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    Nice hp.

    if you're going to make an assertion(thread title and this crap quote), it'd be smart to back it up(not that you can) instead of looking like a racist chump.
     
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    Marbury is dumb ass thug, but Stoudamire definitely isn't. For a kid who had a messed up childhood he seems to be doing okay.
     
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    Stoudemire is okay. But the media ****. At first, they bashed Yao without watching him him, labled him as some sort of bust. Then when he did well, the put him among the gods. Right now, when he is not playing too well, they rip him again. You are either great or bad, that's no between. They are so extreme all they talked are unbelievably crap! :mad:
     
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    Amare is a lowlife degenerate. He should be shipped back to where he came from. He is worthless.
     
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    Yeah, ESPN sucks. Paying for access to that tripe must've been the biggest swindle.
     
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    All of them--Sports Illustrated, ESPN...they're just hype riders, no more. They build them up and then they tear them down. I've seen it happen with many players.

    This is why I detest the hype of the NBA these days. The press always make these into one-on-one affairs, while at the same time bemoaning players who are selfish.

    It's crap. They write zillions of articles about some struggling player (say, Vince Carter) and then make him sound almost as nefarious as a pedophile, by picking on everything he says and does. Meanwhile, other, less interesting players who commit crimes, like, say, spousal abuse (Glenn Robinson this summer?) get barely a word.
     
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    Personally, I have lots of respect for Amare. No father, mother was in and out of jail. Who would've thought that in end, he would be making millions in the NBA? And he made it all by himself. You have to respect that.
     
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    As long as he didn't mess with a certain PG teammate, the guy would be okay. ;)
     
  19. Val

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    Heypartner,

    You are an idiot. You have no right to say that was racist, because you haven't met me. For the record, I am half Black half white, so I can say whatever I say about both races.

    What part makes me racist? Just because I call Amare low class and a thug? Anyone who trash talks a person like that is low class, and I don't care whether they are black, yellow, red, or green. I think Yao is of very high class because he has been attacked by all the NBA players who hate on an import player.

    Oh yeah, tell your mom I said hi and I hope she's on birthcontrol!
    :D
     
  20. Relativist

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    I think this thread should be locked.
     
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