One college recruit went to Europe over the NCAA that doesn't mean any disgruntled pro player will go to Europe. Going to Europe is a pretty hollow threat for a pro to make. He has made it to the league he has worked so hard to get in he's not going to go overseas and pretty much ruin any chance he had at making it big in the NBA. For a player that has to wait the one year to enter it makes a lot of sense. If you go to Europe you can make a good living for the one year before you can enter the draft if you go into the NCAA you have many liberties stripped most notably the ability to make money. For Scola going to back to Europe simply because he is unhappy about how much he gets paid makes no sense in the long run. He would likely be blacklisted by NBA Gm's for doing so and even if he went to Europe and did well he's not going to get offered much more than what he's got when he comes back over. He had 1/2 a season of consistent 14-9 production. Based on that it would be hard for him to get a contract worth more than the 2.9 mil he made last year but factoring in his refusal to respect the contract he signed and the fact that he would be at least a year removed from playing in the NBA and I would be surprised if he got anywhere close to 3 mil a year. Scola didn't sit waiting for multiple years after the Spurs drafted him to get into the NBA just to run back to Europe three years later. For Landry he is a restricted free agent aka someone whether it is the Rockets or not will pay him at the very least a couple mil a year. He won't make more by going overseas and would kill all the hype he created from late last season. Plus this is a guy who is close to his family and has said one of the hardest things about going to Houston was how far it was from home. Anyone suggesting this just needs to stop. I realize its the offseason but that doesn't mean we should just throw out our logic. Let's not bog down the garm with threads about stuff that will never ever in a million years happen. Please.
IMO, the argument would be more convincing if you have taken a look at some of the euro offers and at least acknowledged how much more euro clubs are offering to the 5th/6th player in a team atm...
Add that to the fact the dollar is down no taxes and basketball is becoming the worlds number one game and it is becoming a real option for pro ballers. It will be a while before the compete for our top tier players but with the cap limiting what teams can offer expect the movement of middle tier players to increase in the future. So while the OP doesn't want to hear it is an alternative that every agent must lexplore for his client.
Even if that was true, which I'm not saying it is, that still doesn't mean we need a 100 threads asking if X Rockets player will go play in Europe...
what's so bad about the couple of threads on this? This is definitely a new development that this board has NOT discussed before, and there could potentially be a lot of implications/opportunities here. not saying I actually support another 100 threads on this same topic, but given this has not been thoroughly explored before and it's the offseason, I don't see the reason to be so hard on these thread starters...
I didn't realize saying "that still doesn't mean we need a 100 threads asking if X Rockets player will go play in Europe" was being really hard on the thread starters... However,a new topic comes up and rather than discussing it in any type of focused way, people pop up numerous threads on the same subject and beat a dead horse over and over again, but that has been typical - and maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to be worse this off-season than last.
I'm calling it right now, we aren't losing any of our players to Euroball. Could Scola even legally do that since hes under contract with us? Scola will stay because he thrives on the competition. Scola is no Nachbar, Delfino or Childress.
lol. well... maybe it's just me being too used to this kind of discussion already... well, good news is, olympics is coming really soon, and hopefully, there's gonna be plenty of things to talk about by then.
well, scola I'm not worried about, not at least until 2 years later. the player that's gonna be more impacted is probably landry. and any insane offer from an euro team is going to really put rockets in a bad situation IMO...
True. If I am not wrong, Rockets have no rights to match an offer from a team out of NBA, so Landry would be a unrestricted free agent in this sense. Although it is pretty sure that if we match the offer, he will still choose us.
I agree but where's the f@$%ing hundred threads? Someone started discussing the possibilities Landry's agent may consider europe. That is a legitimate question that is even being discussed on this thread. Oh and whether think it is true or not Europe is offering real money and people mostly follow the money.
whether it will materialize that way is debatable, and I personally don't see it happening at the moment. But you can not decline the POSSIBILITY of that happening. Actually, Landry really do not need a lucrative offer from europe, even a legitimate interest from an european club is going to significanty lower Rocket's leverage now. -- and this is definitely not something morey is hoping for, nor something this board has discussed thoroughly yet.
Wow, what a hollow topic with poor points. Doesn't your whole argument fall apart assuming there is a Super League in Europe, players continued to get payed more, and the defection of mediocre players increased? With the situation in the U.S., lots of players are going to want to live abroad, experience new cultures, etc... Play in Paris for a couple of years, then Rome, etc...? With MORE money? The stupidest argument of it all is "why would anyone go to a weaker league rather than play against the best in the world?" They are doing it. The rate is increasing. Which means that with each passing day, the best players in the world are less in the NBA and more in Europe. So the argument is dissolving. Intead of adjusting to make playing in the NBA more lucrative again, the NBA is going to watch this happen out of stupid pride.
Of course it CAN happen, but I doubt it. The Euro clubs probably realize the same thing that the NBA teams do...that Landry is an unpolished player with a lot of potential but someone who is rendered ineffective if his balky knee isn't 100%.
A hundred is obviously a hyperbole, at the moment I count 6 threads about players going to europe - 4 in the NBA hangout and 2 in the GARM (7 if you include this one). Obviously some of these are about legit story's, but the penchant for people to speculate about how this will affect the Rockets is the part that bothers me. There has been absolutley nothing indicating Landry or Scola are thinking about Europe, but because Boki Nachbar and Carlos Delfino went, one college players went, and Josh Childress is thinking about it - we're just throwing in rampant speculation about how it might possibly affect the Rockets...
It seems the world spends too much time using stupid hyperboles instead of saying what they mean. Anyway thanks for keeping count but since I only read the garm for Rockets game and trade info the count is 2 to me. Of course I know a lot of you come here to hangout and that's why there is a hangout for people to discuss obscure things as often as they like. And it sounds like that is what some are doing. But consider the recent knews about Nachbar, delfino and others it is not farfetched that Landry's agent may be looking into it as an alternative. Which would be a major blow to the Rockets and worth a legitimate new thread. Certainly more than discussing Wade trades based a sighting in Houston. Even the Rockets very on beat reporter chose to write a whole interview with Morey on the subject. So IMO this thread is way to premature. And what is even more ironic is the very on thread you support is more of the problem on this board than the threads it complains about. Instead of wasting space with another stupid thread, why not go into the threads you don't like and complain about there irrelevance. As opposed to creating more irrelevance.
The Euro League is still very very far from the NBA. Now Euro League compared to the NCAA I would say that's about equal. As I said before the two players people are talking about perhaps going there makes no sense. Scola just waited being forced to sit idlely by because the Spurs refused to do anything with him until he was 27. He isn't just going up and go back to the Euro League three years later if he is succeeding in the NBA. As for Landry as I've said before (and he has said) he has a close family and its been hard to be away from them. He's not going to go to Europe as long as there is one team here that will pay him decent money. The guys talking about the dollars falling value playing a roll is just hilarious. I'm sure for a select few the idea of going to Europe because the Euro is better pops into their head for about 5 seconds and then they start laughing. The fact (it may change in the future but is still far from getting there) is kids grow up dreaming of playing in the NBA. People don't give up their dreams to move away from their family and make 500k more.
