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Stop whining about "heart"....execution is the key to success!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Nitro1118, Dec 11, 2007.

  1. Nitro1118

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    I keep hearing everyone talking about "heart", and how the Rockets are in so desperate need of it. Because of this lack of "heart", people want to see T-Mac traded, Adelman gone, and half the team benched...

    Well, I am hear to tell you that heart, or lack thereof, is NOT the main concern. Sure, it is nice to have players who give it 110% on every single play and are always out there getting down and dirty, but that is no what separtes the top teams from the lower level teams. What separtes teams like the Spurs, Mavs, Suns and Celtics from the rest is EXECUTION! The Spurs do not have any fiery players or people who get in your face after every bad possession (Pop will get in their face and vent frustration, but so does Adelman...and just because 5% more of Manu's FGA are in the paint than T-Mac and he has 2 more FTA per 48min does not mean he has a ton of "heart" or is a great leader), the Suns have Nash who is a fairly quiet guy and leads a BUNCH of mentally weak players who crack under pressure (Diaw, Barbosa, Marion, etc...), and the Mavs have a quiet leader who many consider to be mentally weak along with a fairly monotone team...guess what? These are arguably the top 3 teams in the league, and they get by because their execution is flawless. All 3 teams have an identity, and they rarely, if ever, allow another team to impose their will on the game or get their execution of the offense/defense off track. This also applies to the Kings of the early decade...a bunch of mentally weak players with no real fiery leaders (Bobby Jackson was fire off the bench, but guys like Francis have a similar attitude), but because they executed absolutely flawlessly, they became one of the best teams of the decade. Many of the lower level teams have better leaders or guys who play at 110% all the time, but they simply cannot execute, as analyzed by Kenny Smith when TNT was showing the Hawks game last Thursday during halftime of their first game.

    This is where the Rockets' problems truly lay..they have no identity and have no gameplan. It is no wonder why the Rockets often look great when they are running set plays (off ball plays for T-Mac, off ball cuts when they are in the "triangle", plays designed to get Yao deep post position, etc..). Unfortunately, because this team has only played with this system for about 2 months with very little actual practicing, they are not able to run it off their instincts rather than set plays. For one reason or another, Adelman has not realized that, and most of the time the offense has no structure and players simply are not making the right decisions. He is also still experimenting on where to put players for the team to be most effective (Yao in high/low post, T-mac on elbow/wing/bringing up ball, James as PG/SG, Wells in post/shooter, etc..), thus making things even more inconsistent, and is a big reason why T-Mac and Yao have been so up and down all season.

    Outside of maybe a playmaking PG that can make you pay if you double off of him, no trade is going to grealty help this team immediately. At this point, it is all about the players learning the system. I know people hate to hear that and are quick to put the blame in other places, but in the Rockets' case it is just not right. The personel for the system may not be the best, but the talent the Rockets have is considerably better and more balanced than last year, when they had a 63% winning percentage despite injuries to T-Mac, Yao, Bonzi, Snyder, etc... And while JVG was more of a personality than Adelman, his leadership and fire isn't what made the team had a 13% better winning percentage
     
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    ...it was is ability to get the team in an orderly position so they had an identity, no matter how flawed it was. Adelman can do this, but it takes time.
     
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    Oh, by the way, the team is 11-7 with Yao, T-Mac and Rafer in the lineup together, with wins over Phoenix, San Antonio, Utah and LAL....that is not bad.
     
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    It doesn't really matter which one is the key to success when this team has neither.
     
  5. rocketman84

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    i agree that execution is the key, but you fail to realize that if players dont have the drive to want to win (HEART), then they wont work hard at executing. so yes, we need heart.....
     
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    Wow Rafer has gone from being the worst starter on the team to being the catalyst for our victories.
     
  7. Nitro1118

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    Last year we had virtually the same players with the same questions of having "heart", yet they still executed and had an identity. They won 52 looking like robots out there. We need "heart", but I truly believe we have that in our players...I truly believe they care and want to win badly, and actually have more players that hustle and do the dirty work out there (Scola for instance). What they are lacking is direction and ways to use all the talent that they have at their disposal.

    I never said that, but it is a stat that should be brought up. I doubt the Sixers game would have been won either way, but had Alston been the one to bring down the ball rather than T-Mac in the 2nd half of that Toronto game, we would have seen highe % shots being taken and some offensive competency. Rafer is far from a great player, but with his ability you can take the ball out of T-Mac's hands unless he is in a position to attack offensively.
     
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    The sentiments of the original poster are exactly correct. This isn't war. It isn't little league. It's a job.

    Whether you have heart or not is irrelevent. The question is one of professionalism.

    Are you doing your job? Are you performing to the best of your ability? Are you doing what's asked of you by coach and management?

    Basically, the standards everyone of us are held to in our own jobs.

    Whenever I see an effort to actually implement Adelman's system, I see success (Scola and Wells especially). Hayes gets open layups along the baseline. McGrady gets open catch-and-shoot opportunities.

    When I see McGrady taking the ball up the court or being handed the ball beyond the three point line, then waving everyone else off, that is not executing the Adelman offense. When I see 4 Rockets just standing around the three point line not moving, just waiting for Yao to try and get post position, that is not executing the Adelman offense.

    Adelman needs to insist that his players act like professionals and make a conscious effort to execute the system he was brought in to implement.
     
  9. northeastfan

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    Agreed. But I don't think we have intelligent, disciplined players.

    1. TMac shoots terrible shots. When he shoots a shot that he only has a 20% chance of making rather than passing it around or driving for a 50% shot, it costs the team 0.6 points on offense and likely 1.2 points on defense because of a fast break opportunity. That's a turnaround of about 1.8 points for every bad shot. Two or three of those a game means you lose (3.6 points to 5.4 points)

    2. Yao holds the ball low; waits for the double team; simply gets stripped of the ball. That turnover can result in a fast break so overall it probably costs the Rockets 2.4 points every time it happens (one point lost on a 50% offensive shot, 1.4 points lost because of their possession with the potential of a fast break bucket). Two or three of those is again a loss (4.8 to 7.2 points)

    3. Yao primarily but others don't understand what a pivot foot is (how long has he played basketball??). They also don't understand what a three second violation is. That turnover is probaby worth 2.0 points per episode. You can count on two of those a game (4.0 points).

    4. Terrible shots by Rafer Alston and Mike James. Each time that happens, it costs about 1.8 points per game (like the TMac shot). Again, it probably happens about 3 or 4 times per game. That's 5.4 to 7.2 points.

    Add it up and you understand why other teams are blowing us out.

    This doesn't even take into account our defense....
     
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    On the contrary we have very intelligent players (some more than others obviously) who are not playing well at the moment. Their mistakes (poor shot selection by TMac or turnovers by Yao) are magnified because we are playing poorly, NOT executing on offense or defense, etc. For example, in Toronto McGrady took bad shots, no question. But he didn't take those shots vs. Philly, but we played poorly. Yao has had a couple of bad stretches, but he's also played very very well at times this year (though not as often as I'd like I'll admit).

    Rafer doesn't take bad shots most of the time...he's usually wide open and just misses. But I'd say about 90% of the time he takes a "good shot." He just sucks at shooting.

    The ideas of leader and heart are important. But none of that means jack if you can't execute on offense or on defense. If you're missing rotations on defense or not running the game plan on offense it has nothing to do with heart. Coach A needs to fix that. Isnt' that what coaches are paid to do?

    Credit to OP for good analysis of the "top 3" teams in the West and their actual team makeup.
     
  11. northeastfan

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    My point is that a few lapses a game can cost you big time. San Antonio simply doesn't have many of those lapses.
     
  12. northeastfan

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    For example, how many times have we seen TMac or Rafer jack up a "heat check" when we are winning by double digits and that bad shot turned out to be the turning point of the game. If they would understand that that bad shot is tantamount to giving the other team 1.8 points on average, then do you think they would do it? That's smart basketball *all* the time. It separates champions from losers and players that make it out of the first round from players who can only dream and talk.
     
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    T-Mac jacks up bad shots when he is running the point and forced into bad driving lanes and palces he does not want to shoot. As you have seen in all the great games by T-Mac this year (and in Philly yesterday in 1st quarter), when he is in an iso on the wing, he is impossible to guard and both drives and shoots very effectively. This is an execution problem which Adelman should not allow.

    Eh...this is not a good way to dissect Yao's TO's. Yao's TO's are a problem, but Yao's biggest problem this year has been Adelman and his refusal to use the same techniques tha JVG used to get Yao's man pinned and give Yao a great shot.

    TO's are not a big problem...Houston averages less per game than both the Magic and Celtics, and are comparable to the Mavs.

    Again, the math simply not working.



    Teams are not blowing us out, either. Only 4 of our losses were by 10pts or more, and 3 of those were when either T-Mac or Rafer were out, and the other being when we were up against our toughest matchup in the league (Warriors). For comparison, Jazz have 4 losses of 10pts or more despite no injuries and 2 less total losses, and the Nuggets also have 4 losses of 10pts or more despite having 3 less total losses.
     
  14. daernoth

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    Going with the execution thing is the commitment to play like a team every single possesion down the court.

    Many times ill see Tmac involve his teammates and play off the ball and things will go great... then suddenly its like a switch goes off in his head and he feels like playing 1 on 5... and everything goes downhill from there.

    Until they play like the Rockets TEAM rather than Tmac, Yao and a few other guys that are supposed to help them out here and there they wont win consistently.

    This is an issue of focus and it takes some leadership to get that going. Neither of our stars hit me as the right kind of person.
     
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    That is an Adelman thing...Adelman is the one to call the off ball plays for T-Mac, Adelman is the guy to put him on the elbow or in an iso where he is efficient and highly effective, and Adelman is the one who puts him at PG where he takes bad shots and has more oppertunity to take bad shots.

    With that said, Adelman is certainly not the only one to blame, but it is his job to put players in positions to do their best...he has no done so consistently.
     
  16. northeastfan

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    On TMac, when he takes good shots but misses (about 40 to 45% chance of going in), fine. I can live with those misses although I'd much rather see him drive more often. When he jacks up nonsense *early in the shot clock* like he did in Toronto, he literally shot Toronto into the game and gave them the lead.

    TOs cost your team points in two ways. You give up the opportunity to score and you often give the other team a fast break. TO happen, but careless TOs are disasters. Why is a 7'6" player holding the ball down at his waist? Why are we telegraphing passes? Why are we getting trapped in the corner (Head does this all the time) so that we have no good angle to pass the ball? That is just STUPID basketball.

    The Sixers, I repeat the Sixers were up by 31 against us. The Raptors turned around a 14 point deficit to cruise to victory (20+ points at one point). Every bad shot and careless turnover contributes to the opponents' likelihood of scoring. It really is that simple. Our players just don't get it ....
     
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    Yes, and when he jacks up bad shots early in the shot clock, especially pullup 3's, what was he doing 2 seconds earlier? Dribbling the ball up the court. He is most effective in an iso on the wign 15-18ft out, in fact he is about as unstoppable as any player in the league from there as he is an amazing midrange shooter and it gives him great driving lanes. It is Adelman's job to get him in those positions and call plays for him to be there..instead he experiments with T-mac at PG and on the elbow, which simply doesn't take advantage of his scoring abilities.

    Our players get it, but without Rafer we have 2 high turnover prone PG's (James/Francis) as well as a brand new offense and an already highly TO prone center, it is no wonder why the offense struggles so much in the last 2 games. Say what you want about Rafer, but he gets the ball quickly up th court, doesn't over dribble, and gets Yao and T-Mac the ball in positions where they are most effective.

    And again, for a brand new offense, little chemistry, a highly TO pronce center....14 TO's per game is actually on the low end. TO's are not a big problem for this team...execution of the offense is, and that is to be expected, which is why Adelman needs to call more set plays like when we were 6-1.

    And for the last time, we are 11-7 with Rafer/T-Mac/Yao in the lineup despite hardest schedule in league, a brand new coach and new role players. For every badd loss we have had a great one.
     
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    Execution requires will. It takes heart for someone to be strong willed in rough situations.

    I will meet half way with you though...

    "heart" + execution = perfection (in NBA terms)

    anything missing in that formula renders your play useless.
     
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    It doesn't take heart to run an offense, it takes proper coaching and bball IQ. In close games you can question their heart and will to close out a victory, but in everyday situations they simply are not executing. They did not have this problem last year despite the same personel, and it was not because JVG is a fiery coach..it is because they had an identity and consistency with their playing style. This team changes their style every game.
     
  20. northeastfan

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    I agree that the Rockets are still trying to figure out what they are running on offense.

    But how do you explain, say the Toronto game when TMac literally jacked up shots with 20 seconds left on the shot clock? He made about 1 in 5 and absolutely killed the Rockets by swinging the score by 10 points. That is not BBall IQ. That is BBall stupidity.

    Also, how many more times does Yao need to have the ball stripped from him before he realizes that he needs to attack quickly or hold the ball high and not in a stationary place? I wonder if he got his hands burned on the stove several hundred times as a child....
     

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