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stop b!tchin bout yao not getting the ball

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lil-vic, Feb 4, 2003.

  1. lil-vic

    lil-vic Member

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    i think most of the games this season the rockets try to get yao the ball but he just can't seem the get in good position to recieve the ball or when he does, he has to rush his shot because time is about to be up. i just wanted to say stop blaming everything on the guards because they do actually try to get the big man into the game. but i do believe yao will soon figure out how to play to each teams defense as the season goes along. but how long do the rockets have? the lakers are playing like champs again and these last games will all count big. anyone else think rice will benefit us big with this new offense they have started using?
     
  2. Rockets-R-Us

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    That's a dumbass thing to say!! :mad: :mad:

    How about the fact that we are running out of time because S.F. and Cat actually WALK THE BALL UP THE FRICKIN COURT!!

    Or, how about, ALL THE DAMN DRIBBLING THESE IDIOTS DO before they actually try and get him the ball.

    Or, how about Rudy's TOTAL LACK OF OFFENSIVE IMAGINATION, and his inability to design plays that make it possible for Yao to get his shots!!!

    Blaming Yao for not getting the ball and defending our guards after a game like this demonstrates a complete lack of B-ball I.Q. on your part.

    Please go buy a vowel and then go and whine along with our guards!!
     
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    I have a feeling that Yao was tired tonight. Don't blame Cat.
     
  4. jeremyang2002

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    you have lower IQ than some Rox players
     
  5. lil-vic

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    hmmm in my view the guards are doing all that dribbling because they were waiting for yao to get position to get the ball. and how do you know all that about rudy, are you there with him on the bench? i dont think so. could it be that his players should take most the of blame for the incosistancy?
     
  6. RIET

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    First, Nesterovic was fronting Yao a lot. Cat has never heard of a lob pass. That's how you defeat that strategy.

    Second, You have Eddie Griffin standing 3 feet away from Yao. Guess who comes over and double teams forcing Eddie to take wide open jump shots. Why do you have the worst shooter on the team standing next to the only guy who's getting double teamed.

    Third, when you pass him the ball, someone has to be moving. On the Garnett steal, everyone is standing around while Yao is holding the ball. What's he supposed to do with that?

    Last, How does Nesterovic score 19 points? Off picks. maybe we should try that.
     
  7. LiTtLeY1521

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    lol...this thread is nice.

    But no. He's not the dumbest!

    You forgot Cato!
     
  8. HonestAbe

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    Good point Rockets-R-Us. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Yao was as quick tonight as in the previous three games, but how many times was Yao in good position and our guards were too busy dribbling, spinning out of control, or just stopping and popping. If you reflect on a great deal of our road games, you will notice that nearly all ball movement stops in the fourth quarter. Mobley and Francis always want to be the team's saviors on the road. Most of our road losses are in the fourth.
     
  9. solid

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    Rockets-r-us, My sentiments exactly. I have played and watched basketball for most of my life. I absolutely cannot imagine walking the ball up the court and running down the clock. Especially, when you are down 10 late in the fourth!!! So BASIC;SOOOOSTUPID! Are our guards incapable of learning?
     
  10. lil-vic

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    ok now come on, u basically said that yao had nothing to do with the lost tonight. look at all the TOs he had in this game. yes he was doubled a lot but he needs to pass it quicker when he does get doubled and not hold it for so long. and oh yeah not all 19 points were off picks, most were scored when yao was straight up guarding him. yao needs to step up his all around defense and not just rely on staying only in the paint. he needs to run at the players when they are shooting and not give them so much room. when one person plays bad, the whole team plays bad. you can't just blame the lost all on one person.
     
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    we should b****...maybe something will magically happen

    Yao does need to get the ball more but stupid ass Minny triple teamed him. Call Bill Walton, Yao has to learn to play while being guarded by 3 people
     
  12. RIET

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    He had 3 TO's in the game. Francis had 5 and Mobley had 2.

    When the other guys are standing around, who are you going to pass it to?

    When guys are cutting to the basket, have you ever seen him not pass it given the opportunity? He can actually thread the needle. Have you ever seen Cat make a tough pass?

    Yao Ming is 10 x the passer Cat is. That's really sad.
     
  13. jeremyang2002

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    Yao still has 3 ass tonight,how about Cat?
     
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    Stupid thread indeed. How many seconds can one hold a position? As soon as Yao establishes a position, the ball needs to be delivered to him asap. Do you expect the opponents to let him hold the position for 20 seconds? Do you think even Shaq can do that?
     
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    Rasho got most of his points when yao came over to double garnnet, who actually passes to his open teammates.
     
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    Yeah, but why?

    Because every time he passed, Eddie missed his shots.

    3-14???

    Lord.
     
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    The Rockets' guards need to become more instinctive about passing it to Yao... I believe it will come as they play with him more. It is hard to give a player the ball just at the right time... especially if he is only established for a mere 1 or 2 seconds.

    I believe Griffin needs to improve his passing to Yao as well... most of the time we run the double high pick and roll play, the ball must be swung to the wing before Yao receives it. I believe Griffin can pass it to yao while Yao is in the paint, but Griffin is much too hesitant.
     
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    Come on now, in the Dallas game Yao was 6/6 in the first half... in the 2nd half he was 0/2.... 8 shots the whole game for someone who shoots well over 50% from the field, why not give him the ball? Is he going to learn from Steve and Cat? Is he only going to learn how to "create off your dribble... do crossovers until you lose your opponent and then shoot it?
     
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    I've seen it so many times, especially road games, Yao's fighting his ass off to get position within 3 feet away from the basket with his man completely sealed off inside the paint. But he never get the ball because the guards failed to recognize that he has ONLY THREE SECONDS to hold that position to get the ball.

    It's EXTREMILY discouraging for any player, especially for a rookie. When he works that hard for that type of position and not getting the ball, while seeing his own selfish guards b-z holding the ball and looking down their shoes, doing this time wasting jab, jab, dribble, dribble before jacking up ill advised shots.

    I am sure Barkley would've gotten someone a blacked eye if he did not get the ball in that situation.
     

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