4:10 left in the 4th. Watch the give and go by Francis to Yao on the left wing. Francis cuts baseline around Yao for the handoff and Steve's man blocks his path to the left (baseline) and Francis immediately uses Yao as a pick around the right for a handoff into the lane for a layup attempt and gets fouled and makes the 2 FTs UCLA cut. Cut towards a center ballhandler on one side to commit your defender and then cut around the center ballhander around his front to the other side. It is somewhat a V-cut around a give and go with ballhandler.
cha-ching It is just beginning. glad you finally got to see a game. See what happens when Smeggy gets game or game tape. Nice eye. I agree, that is the first UCLA cut to date. 4:10 in the 4th is spot on. Practiced or not--the coaches now have tape to show Francis how it works.
What time. Do you have tape. They've done a few give and goes...the UCLA cut is a counter cut to the give and go.
I don't remember, but I know what I saw live on tv and afterwards on the highlight shows. Ming was standing just outside the paint on the left side of the basket with his back turned to the rim. Steve handed him the ball, ran by ming who set a a great wall of a screen, handed the ball to steve as he ran by. Steve then took it up for an uncontested jam. Don't know if that is a UCLA cut, but it was a pretty simple give and go that they should run more often.
I always tape over games we lose. I can't stand to watch them again(because I'm not a coach/player/someone who can help).
Oski, What you described was a give and go, and I do believe that was the first give and go by Yao. I can mark that by game time for those who want it...I'll have to rewind. This was different. This was the defending guard blocking Francis's "give and go" path around Ming to the baseline, but. but but that means Ming now becomes a pick to the lane, and Francis's defender is totally blocked by Ming and out of the play. At this point, the only way to stop the handoff for Francis straight into the lane is for Ming's man to trap Francis. So.................the next learning curve is Ming to feel when his man leaves him to trap Francis ... and Yao fakes the handoff and spins the other way directly to the rim. i n c o n c e i v a b l e This cut also does not require a handoff...it can include a wing entry when the cut happens around the elbow.
Quote "glad you finally got to see a game" YOU AINT THE ONLY ONE MATE 40 degree day here...got home from work...grabbed a rum and coke, iced it...took a cold shower...got another rum and coke, iced it...sat down on my couch, rewound the tape I'd had in recording the game...watched it. Took 3 hours due to all the plays I watched back That's how life is meant to be in a CABLE world. Unfortunately, up until today, the world that cable has brought to me is LA...NY...LA...LA...Boston...LA...LA... Hopefully Yao = more tv coverage world wide
Well I know it was a give and go, I should have done a better job of asking what exactly the UCLA Cut is. In the Dallas game, Steve's defender ran into Ming's pick while Francis went baseline. What I can't remember is where Ming's defender was. My guess is that he was fronting Ming because I know that Steve was completely alone in the lane at the end of that play. I'm still fuzzy on the UCLA cut, but I bet I could find a simple X's and O's diagram on the web. Edit: Ok, I think I found it, that is if the high post rub is the same thing. Can't find a way to post it here, but basically, it says what you said. It diagrams it out with the the wing being the one making the entry pass.
I'm with you, dude. I live in New Zealand now and finally got to see the Rockets...nice game to catch! Nice not to have to see the frickin' Magic and Raptors for once. Can't escape Boston, though...coming up on Saturday again.
well.... at least u guys got to watch the game (even though not Rocks) a lot more than my 2 games per week (most of them are Lakers, Sixers, Kings, Dallas)..... damn I have to wait like years for one Rockets game to come by..... until they win a championship.... It will be like that for years to come..... o...btw, I haven't watch any game where Rocks played in Compaq center yet this season...... and all the game I watched.... they end up losing.....
I take it you mean 40 degrees centigrade, because around here, a 40 degree day means hot cocoa and a warm shower.
be glad the only games i can see alot are east teams,last year in the play offs they showed one west game Lakers portland. i haven't seen an dallas play off game EVER.i want to see west teams,atleast next week they show Memphis (i like watching Gasol) and they showed the Rocket-spurs game
Yeah, generally the cut is around a high post man without the ball with a third guy giving an entry from the wing. But with a great passing big man who can hand off or dump it down, you don't need the 3rd guy. You just rub off the big man with the ball. I'd like to see them pull that out to the elbow area
last nite it seemed that Mooch cut when Yao was looking to pass. I H O P E it becomes contagious. They'll win some games AND be fun to watch!
edc, yeah that's the classic diagram for the 1-4 set position of the UCLA offense. #1 does a give and go to the wing and can cut left or right around the post. An option to this offense is the PG passing to the post player straight away. This is not as common unless the post player is a good passer and shooter. I found an explanation from a UCLA coach of what passing to the post player rather than the wing can do. Maybe this explains it more clear, since we don't have video. <blockquote><hr>One of the best features of the break down drills is how to handle decision making in the guard around in the Side Post option of the post series. In it, the PG makes a pass to the high post and most commonly drives their defender at the basket before making a hard tight circle cut [edit: UCLA Cut] off the high post with the ball for a number of options. Coach Saia does a fine job explaining the various options form this situation commonly based upon how the defense tries to play or disrupt this play. For example, if the guard defender tries to cut the corner of the circle cut by going behind the post, the PG can step back stop and pop off a hand-off for the jumper, thinking "ball in the air, feet in the air." If the defender tries to squeeze between the post and the PG guard around, the PG will have a step advantage for a quick give and go return pass as they continue on toward the basket. If the post defender attempts to step out and play it like a pick and roll, their are other options as well [namely, Yao Ming does a drop step to the hole, or can turn and fire.<hr></blockquote>
great thread handoff - cut without ball, who cares about semantics (that word again HeyP) either way it is SWEET ScreamingJet - you taped the game then watched, uhhh, i just worked home for the day!!!!
Anyone else notice another first last night? Eddie Griffin had the ball at the top of the key, faked his man into the air, took one dribble and...and...HE DIDN'T PULL UP FOR ANOTHER LONG JUMPER. He actually drove to the basket! He didn't make the layup, but it was definitely a good, open shot. I don't know why he doesn't do this more often, because the opportunity is there.
