[Steroids]Gov't to get names of 2003 MLB violators

I was wondering if this ever was going to happen - there was talk about it last winter I think. Hopefully the list leaks somewhere.

 

I hope they get them all.

On a side note, if Barry is convicted, would u advocate all his Hr's be removed from statistics. For all statistics, would u remove anyone who has taken steroids.

I would.

 

I can't believe the government would have time to do this. What's next, will they get involved in one family's decision on whether or not to pull the plug on a family member?

 

how absolutely r****ded. if you cant see why this is a completely assinine idea, i'm not gonna waste my time explaining it.

 

Why does the government care about this? Were the steriods used considered illegal by federal government? Why is tax money being used for Major League Baseball? BASEBALL??!

What's next, an investigation in the divorce of K-Fed and Spears?

 

Umm, yes, the steroids are illegal.

 

Ah, then I can accept an investigation.

 

Regarding records...who knows.

Regarding the HOF...Big. ****ing. Deal. The baseball HOF is the most overrated, and over hyped places around. The idea for it was as a museum; what it is now (a shrine run by some of the most arrogant people) is not what the "founders" had envisioned.

As a museum the HOF is a nice tribute to the game; what sports writers, ESPN, and some other want to make it into (holier than Jesus), is messed up. Who cares if Pete Rose gets "inducted"...why be so picky about being in such a "club". We all know what type of players these guys were: great. Whether or not they should be inducted is not a big deal.

For that matter, there are much worse people in the HOF than McGwire or Bonds.

 

wow...that's some really small text. hard to read.

 

So the steriods are illegal for everyone to use or just these pro athletes? And why oh why is it SUCH A big deal to the federal govt?? Is this really the best use of their time?? talk about smoke and mirrors...

 

hey, getting the federal government to do something other than complain about being "forced" to work 5 days a week should be applauded!

 

Of course it's illegal for everyone. High profile cases always get more attention than other cases. Why would it be different here?

You have a massive steroids ring that involves who knows how many players, an entire steroids lab (BALCO), and who knows what else. Why have laws if you don't enforce them? Or are you of the belief that the rich and famous, by stalling and not talking, should be allowed to get away with whatever they want because it takes more effort to prosecute?

Criminal prosecutions aren't meant to simply be efficient.

 

Another way to look at this is that a national pasttime - one that gets anti-trust exemptions and has gotten billions of dollars in public funding for its stadiums - has tests that show that at least 5% of its players were using illegal steroids. And that doesn't include designer steroids or things like HGH which weren't tested for. I'd say it's probably a big enough problem for the government to investigate.

What could be interesting is that the tests were supposed to be anonymous. I could see the players union suing MLB or the testing facility for attaching names to the tests. That's irrelevent to the government case, but it's a possible side result of this.

 

note: I didnt read all of your posts because I got tired of the whining

The Govt needs to investigate baseball because it is our national past time and an important part of our culture whether you like it or not. I liken it to the way the govt supports farmers in america with subsidies... basically to preserve that lifestyle. We must preserve our history and culture and I really think that at some point the MLB could implode without intervention.

Now on the matter of govt getting these names... its bull****.

"Baseball players were told the results would be confidential, and each player was assigned a code number to be matched with his name."

If they release these results to the government, it could devastate the already fragile relationship that exists between the mlb and the players union. Its going to be even harder to rid the game of this problem.

 

"knowingly"

 

how is it assinine? Do they not strip ur medals from u in the olympics if u were caught cheating? how is this a good precedent for future generations. If u don't get caught, ur records still stand with the rest of the people who played cleanly.

That would be messed to towards Aaron. Possibly Maris who played the game with integrity only to be passed by tainted players. I don't think it's fair. If you do, then we disagree.