federally funded stem cell research. should it be allowed? looks like bush is finally going to veto something... how many votes are needed in both houses to override a veto? edit *this was supposed to be a poll...*
67 for an override. The bill passed today by 63-37. That means 4 Repubs or 3 Repubs and Nelson of NE need to switch to override Bush's proposed veto.
imo, bush is only taking the position of stem cell research to appease the right wing, evangelical conservatives...similar to when he called for an amendment to ban gay marriage. anyhoo, i think that we should pursue this research since it has the potential to lead to incredible advances in medicine. for example, stem cell research could help push for new discoveries to rehabilitate paralysis patients, alzheimers, etc. the benefits outweigh the risks.
There is a large gulf between the saying and the doing with W. I would not be surprised if W did or did not veto. I could easily see a small, meaningless admendment to the bill providing enough political cover for W to avoid vetoing and keeping his veto-less record alive.
I see nothing positive for Bush in any historical context to keep the no-veto streak alive. I also don't get some news analysts claiming that he'll veto to boost mid-term elections when there are several Republicans who are supporting the bill and very close to outright opposing Bush on this matter. Dude is trying to hold the remnants of his 29. Plain and simple.
Yep. Why bother with a veto when you can just issue a secret signing statement that in the view and actions of your administration renders the legislation meaningless?
This will be another black spot on Bush's record. We are losing the best scientists to other countries because of this. We need to be the leaders in this not sitting on the sidelines with our head in the sand. This research will happen whether we are a part or not. Its going to be huge economically. ----------------------------- Asia long has been known as the source of some of America's most brilliant scientific minds. For decades, the brain drain from East to West caused leaders in this region to fret about the future. But in the emerging realm of biotech, the trend has reversed. To attract scientists, Singapore's government has invested more than $300 million to build Biopolis, a 500-acre biotechnology development park. The zone has laboratories, day care centers, bars and a fitness center. The government plans to spend $7.5 billion on biomedical sciences over the next five years. As countries such as the United States shy away from stem cell research, work goes on in other nations. Researchers work in a sequencing and cloning facility at the Genome Institute of Singapore. Some of the West's best scientific minds have come to Singapore in a shift that could have dramatic long-term consequences for the multibillion-dollar biomedical industry in the United States and Britain. The two nations have led biotech research since the 1980s, when scientists discovered that embryonic stem cells can develop into nearly every other kind of cell. Already a high-tech manufacturing leader in Asia, Singapore initiated a plan in 2000 to turn the country into a global biomedical hub. Since then, scores of the world's top companies and scientists have been lured by promises of hassle-free funding and the freedom to follow their research interests, unfettered by the conflicted ethical debate in the United States about the use of stem cells. From statesman.com
Colbert two nights ago was interviewing a stem cell guy, who was claiming that the current stem cell lines were too degraded and not usable said something like: "You say they're too old, well to me, I say they're CLASSICS"..lol.
If Bush uses his first veto on this bill... wow, just wow. What a fool and an idiot. I hope he does, because it will further help Democrats win in November, and then we can get real stem cell research, at last. Keep D&D Civil.
The Dems are using the stem cell issue as a wedge issue in the Missouri Senate race. We will see that is efficacious.
Well Jr once again just proved to the world the neanderthal that he is. Sad really... Bush vetoes stem cell bill as promised http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060719...wiVVdgA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
ok i need a little clarification on this subject. in stem cell research, do they use an aborted embryo?
No he supports federal funding of stem cell lines that existed before he banned funding. Unfortunately, none I repeat NONE of those are currently being worked on. Those were preliminary lines that were later contaminated with mouse cells because of a different process to preserve those lines. So yes absolutely no federal funding is occuring right now and being that he's in favor of the status quo policy, he's implicitly against any real funding.
No, they use embryos that are going to be discarded from fertility clinics. Using aborted fetuses for stem cell research is prohibited by some past cloning law I believe.
