Stein on EG and the Rox

Disassociating themselves with Griffin has JVG's name written all over it. The guy is a disciplinarian. He has ZERO tolerance for this stuff. Plus, he has no emotional ties to Griffin and no reason to need to make up for losing out on Richard Jefferson. He wasn't here when it happened.

That's not to say he was the guy that pulled the trigger, but I do know that the dynamics of personnel movement among the Rockets include Les, CD and JVG.

 

I wonder why no matter what happens to this guy i still keep thinking he will be a good player in this league.

 

Even Brandon Armstrong is starting to get PT for the Nets. If Eddie can contribute, fine, let him play this season. Otherwise, let's do a Keyshawn, put him on top of our all-time busts lists, and then forget about him. Having to remember the 3 players the Rox gave up for him just hurts too much.

 

It's time we bury this issue once and for all. Had we kept those 3 players, we probably wouldn't have hit the jackpot with Yao. If that is the price we had to pay, fine, we sure can live with it.

And Mr. Stein, thanks for the kind words regarding Cato. He certainly is being more than passable so far.

 

As fans, we need to move on too. It's not a good idea to think back and still dwell on that trade of 3 players for EG several years ago.

I do hope EG gets his act together.

 

If you accept the "win some, lose some" philosophy, then you can accept the level of mediocrity we've seen the last 4 years. The funny thing is, you don't hear a peep out of the Grizzlies about the Francis trade (and their draft choice, Troy Bell?, is still one more player than the Roxs have) in the last couple of years. My point is to just move on.

 

EG=Leon Wood.

DD

 

But EG did. And therfore caused another to be.

 

Maybe it's better for him to bulk up from now allllllll the way until next season, and during this "timeout" he can deal with his personal issues.

IMO, he's still an asset. He's worth more to us than other teams, and we have his bird rights. If we can re-sign him for really cheap, and long-term, then we should do it seeing as we know he has SOME talent, and is AT LEAST capable of being a damn good backup PF.

 

Do you mean Leon Smith?

 

No, He probably means Edward Leon Wood. Otherwise known as Ed Wood, the filmmaker for those B horror movies.

EG=Ed Leon Wood = B Horror Movie

Of course I could be wrong.

 

An excellent point. Another item to note is that Jefferson and Collins get to have one of the greatest passing guards in the game feeding them the ball night in and night out. Would they have grown to the same level in Houston? Maybe, maybe no. If we'd even drafted them. Who knows who Rudy would have actually drafted if the Nets weren't telling them who to pick up.

 

while i agree with you saying it's time to move on, i have to disagree on a couple of things you said.
- all trades are gambles, especially with the draft. you can only woirk on so much information & can never really tell how a player will turn out until they get on the court. think about some of the higher picks that have yet to proove themselves, if they ever will: "jay" williams, the person many (foolishly) said we should pick over Yao; eddie curry, who had so much positive press yet has produced FA. while both are chicago players, they were much hyped players, and both #2 picks.
-the grizz were pissed about the francis trade til they moved, and stu jackson still holds a grudge against steve.

 

Actually losing out on Zach Randolph is much worse than losing out on Jefferson. Randolph will be an 18-10 guy for many years. Having him in our frontcourt would have seriously helped out our scoring in the post.

Either way, taking a chance on Griffin was a calculated risk worth taking. He dominated at Seton Hall, and was considered one of the best players in the draft. Hindsight is 20-20.

 

I like what the Rockets are doing with the moving on because they make themselve look good( at least this year) You take the high road by suporting him and his problems in the public eye and it leaves the door for IF he straghten up and gome with a little fire in him. But they ( and we )know that is not gonna happen. So instead just move on.

Think about it like this yes Richard Jefferson is having succes in New Jersey. That does not mean that would have happen here. Does any one REALLY think Vernon " I do not give a f*ck "Maxwell would have had any succes anywhere else. Some guys are just perfect fits on certain teams

 

True about hindsight, and I was among those who rejoiced on draft night 2001, but it is inaccurate to say that the warning signs were not there.

His off court problems were pretty well known, also I recall an article in SI about NBA scouting that came out just after draft time. It was a long article about a scout for an NBA team and shared his notes and evaluations for a few players just as an example. One of those was Eddie.

I think he gave Eddie a B+ type grade (not much different than he gave late first round guys) and, IIRC, cited a lot of negative things about his game that eventually turned out to be an accurate forecast of things to come: Poor shooting, lack of emotion, inability to be a man defender, seeemd kind of weak in the post, he was a "tweener".

It jsut sucks that everything bad that COULD have happened to Eddie w/regard to his development actually DID happen.

 

So he's going to be a potentially great basketball player-turned-referee?

The whole EG situation is pretty sad. I think someone said they don't know why they keep expecting him to do well no matter how many times he's flopped. I know why I still want the guy to do well - he's still a kid for the most part. He's not like a 30+ year old veteran still doing stupid stuff. That being said, I guess the Rockets are done with him for now... I hope he gets his life together, but I hope it's not at the expense of the Rockets down the road.