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Stay with OOTP4 or move to OOTP5?

Discussion in 'Fantasy Sports' started by DVauthrin, May 5, 2003.

  1. DVauthrin

    DVauthrin Member

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    Since I will be the new commissioner of OOTP for this summer, and the fact a new version has come out recently, I feel obligated to ask would you prefer staying with OOTP4 or moving to OOTP5.

    Please only league members reply, and majority vote wins.
     
  2. NYKRule

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  3. DVauthrin

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  4. ChucklesG

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    4,because as I understand it, we could not transfer the file to 5.
     
  5. Zac D

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    We could. I don't think it's worth it. 4
     
  6. DEANBCURTIS

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    The Wakefields dig 4, but are open to majority.
     
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    Im interested in 5 and all its hyperlinking and other features... but im just not sure.. Ill make a decision if its an even vote.
     
  10. RunninRaven

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    Is there some drawback to converting to 5? Any reason why we wouldn't be able to go back to 4 when Zac gets back?

    Because if not, I'd like to give 5 a shot. See what it has to offer.
     
  11. boville

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    4 is good for me
     
  12. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    I am interested in being in 2 leagues, but if I have to choose one or the other, it would be 4.

    Believe it or not, I would be willing to go a whole summer without OOTP as long as it meant that I still had my team when Zac or IV or whoever resumes running the league.

    So, put me down for 4.
     
  13. Castor27

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    I have played 5 and it is really nice. The new html look is good. I have not however tried any conversions from 4 to 5 which I am sure Zac has done. If the conversions are exceptionally bad then I would vote to stay with 4 until such time as we have a major crash.

    CK
     
  14. The Cat

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  15. Zac D

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    Code:
    BOX SCORES San Diego @ Pittsburgh
    Game #: 2459,   (GAME LOG)  , Thursday, 10/17/2011 
      
      
               1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9   R H E 
    San Diego  0 0 1 0 4 0 0 0 2   7 6 2 
    Pittsburgh 3 0 3 2 1 0 0 0 X   9 9 2 
       
     
     
      
    San Diego       AB R H RBI BB K AVG HR RBI 
    S. Choo CF       4 2 1 0 1 0 .231 0 0 
    S. Darlington RF 4 1 3 4 0 0 .296 2 6 
    X. Nady 2B       3 1 0 0 2 1 .364 2 8 
    J. Castillo SS   3 1 0 0 1 0 .304 0 0 
    R. Shipman 1B    2 0 0 1 1 0 .150 0 3 
    S. Burroughs 3B  4 0 1 2 0 1 .273 1 8 
    L. Berkman LF    3 1 0 0 1 1 .150 0 3 
    J. Paynter C     4 0 0 0 0 0 .333 1 3 
    E. Groover P     1 0 0 0 0 0 .000 0 0 
       F. Reel P     0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 0 0 
       J. Cressend P 2 1 1 0 0 0 .333 0 0 
       J. Moreno P   0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 0 0 
       R. Velez PH   1 0 0 0 0 0 .000 0 0 
    Totals           31 7 6 7 6 3       
     
    BATTING
    Doubles: S. Burroughs (3, 5th inning off Hamby, 2 on, 2 out.) J. Cressend (1, 5th inning off Hamby, 0 on, 0 out.) 
    Homeruns: S. Darlington (2, 9th inning off Delossantos, 1 on, 2 out.) 
    Runs Batted In: S. Darlington 4 (6), R. Shipman (3), S. Burroughs 2 (8) 
    Sacrifice Flies: S. Darlington (1), R. Shipman (1) 
    
    FIELDING
    Errors: J. Castillo 
     
     
      
    Pittsburgh AB R H RBI BB K AVG HR RBI 
    J. Guzman SS 2 2 1 1 3 0 .429 1 3 
    M. Walters CF 5 1 2 1 0 1 .250 1 5 
    J. Hamilton RF 5 1 1 1 0 0 .143 1 1 
    B. Giles LF 4 2 1 0 1 1 .222 0 2 
    G. Wilson C  3 2 2 2 2 0 .231 0 2 
    R. Hernandez 1B 2 0 0 1 1 0 .000 0 1 
    K. Hutt 3B 2 1 1 2 1 0 .300 0 2 
    B. Roberts 2B 4 0 1 0 0 0 .250 0 0 
    W. Hamby P  2 0 0 0 0 0 .250 0 0 
       A. Delossantos P  1 0 0 0 0 0 .000 0 0 
    Totals 30 9 9 8 8 2       
     
    BATTING
    Doubles: G. Wilson (1, 1st inning off Groover, 2 on, 1 out.) 
    Homeruns: J. Hamilton (1, 4th inning off Reel, 0 on, 0 out.) 
    Runs Batted In: J. Guzman (3), M. Walters (5), J. Hamilton (1), G. Wilson 2 (2), R. Hernandez (1), K. Hutt 2 (2) 
    Stolen Bases: J. Guzman (1), B. Giles (1), G. Wilson 2 (5), R. Hernandez (1) 
    Sacrifice Flies: R. Hernandez (1), K. Hutt (1) 
    
    FIELDING
    Errors: W. Hamby, B. Roberts 
     
     
      
    San Diego IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD 
    E. Groover L 2.2 5 6 5 3 0 55 26 16.50 0-2 
    F. Reel  1 2 2 2 3 1 36 20 6.75   
    J. Cressend  2.2 2 1 1 1 0 39 24 4.50   
    J. Moreno  1.1 0 0 0 1 1 25 12 0.00   
     
    PITCHING
    Wild Pitches: E. Groover, J. Moreno 
    Batters Faced: E. Groover 16, F. Reel 9, J. Cressend 11, J. Moreno 5 
    Ground Balls-Fly Balls: E. Groover 3-6, F. Reel 1-1, J. Cressend 4-4, J. Moreno 1-2 
    Game Score: E. Groover 19 
     
     
      
    Pittsburgh IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD 
    W. Hamby W 6 5 5 4 5 0 110 66 4.26 1-0 
    A. Delossantos  3 1 2 2 1 3 46 28 6.00   
     
    PITCHING
    Batters Faced: W. Hamby 28, A. Delossantos 11 
    Ground Balls-Fly Balls: W. Hamby 10-8, A. Delossantos 3-3 
    Game Score: W. Hamby 39 
     
     
      
    GAME INFO
    Time: 3:45
    Attendance: 38099 (38127) at Stargell Field at Clemente Park
    Weather: Clear skies (44 degrees), wind blowing right to left at 10 mph
    PLAYER OF THE GAME: Stanford Darlington
     
     
      
    

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    BOX SCORES Cleveland @ Chicago (A)
    Game #: 2452,   (GAME LOG)  , Thursday, 10/17/2011 
      
      
                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9   R H E 
    Cleveland   2 6 0 0 0 0 2 8 0   18 24 1 
    Chicago (A) 0 0 2 3 0 2 2 2 1   12 18 1 
       
     
     
      
    Cleveland AB R H RBI BB K AVG HR RBI 
    C. Guzman SS 7 2 4 4 0 0 .529 0 4 
    J. Wilson 2B 6 2 3 3 1 0 .440 3 9 
    C. Crawford CF 7 1 1 2 0 0 .154 1 5 
    P. Wilson RF 6 2 2 1 0 1 .524 1 5 
    M. Cuddyer 3B 4 3 3 1 2 0 .348 0 4 
    D. Brown LF 6 1 3 2 0 0 .280 0 4 
    R. Escalante DH 5 3 5 3 1 0 .350 1 6 
    J. Cota 1B 5 1 0 0 1 0 .000 0 0 
    J. Gause C  5 3 3 1 1 0 .500 0 1 
    Totals 51 18 24 17 6 1       
     
    BATTING
    Doubles: J. Wilson (3, 1st inning off Penny, 0 on, 1 out.) R. Escalante (1, 8th inning off Goodspeed, 2 on, 0 out.) 
    Homeruns: J. Wilson (3, 8th inning off Goodspeed, 2 on, 1 out.) 
    Runs Batted In: C. Guzman 4 (4), J. Wilson 3 (9), C. Crawford 2 (5), P. Wilson (5), M. Cuddyer (4), 
    D. Brown 2 (4), R. Escalante 3 (6), J. Gause (1) 
    Stolen Bases: C. Guzman (1), J. Wilson (2) 
    
    FIELDING
    Errors: J. Wilson 
     
     
      
    Chicago (A) AB R H RBI BB K AVG HR RBI 
    J. Richardson 3B 6 3 3 1 0 0 .455 1 5 
    R. Belliard DH 6 2 4 6 0 0 .409 3 10 
    G. Real LF 5 0 1 0 0 0 .333 1 5 
    C. Tedford CF 4 0 0 0 1 2 .211 0 3 
    M. Ordonez RF 5 1 2 0 0 1 .200 0 2 
    T. Hummel SS 5 2 2 1 0 1 .429 1 4 
    P. Konerko 1B 5 1 1 0 0 3 .182 1 2 
    K. Learned C  5 1 3 3 0 1 .368 0 7 
    M. Sroka 2B 3 2 2 1 1 0 .471 1 3 
    Totals 44 12 18 12 2 8       
     
    BATTING
    Doubles: R. Belliard (2, 4th inning off Traber, 1 on, 2 out.) G. Real (2, 1st inning off Traber, 0 on, 2 out.) 
    M. Ordonez (1, 2nd inning off Traber, 0 on, 0 out.) T. Hummel (2, 7th inning off Traber, 1 on, 1 out.) 
    K. Learned (2, 9th inning off Golder, 1 on, 1 out.) M. Sroka (1, 3rd inning off Traber, 0 on, 0 out.) 
    Triples: K. Learned (1, 4th inning off Traber, 1 on, 1 out.) 
    Homeruns: R. Belliard 2 (3, 3rd inning off Traber, 1 on, 1 out, 8th inning off Cardone, 1 on, 0 out.) 
    Runs Batted In: J. Richardson (5), R. Belliard 6 (10), T. Hummel (4), K. Learned 3 (7), M. Sroka (3) 
    Stolen Bases: R. Belliard (1), C. Tedford (1), M. Sroka (1) 
    Sacrifice Flies: M. Sroka (1) 
    
    FIELDING
    Errors: P. Konerko 
     
     
      
    Cleveland IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD 
    B. Traber W 6.1 13 9 9 1 6 119 75 8.03 2-0 
    P. Cardone H 1.2 4 3 2 0 1 29 16 9.00   
    S. Golder  1 1 0 0 1 1 22 11 7.36   
     
    PITCHING
    Batters Faced: B. Traber 33, P. Cardone 9, S. Golder 5 
    Ground Balls-Fly Balls: B. Traber 8-4, P. Cardone 4-1, S. Golder 0-2 
    Game Score: B. Traber 16 
     
     
      
    Chicago (A) IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD 
    B. Penny L 1.1 6 6 6 1 0 56 33 6.97 0-1 
    B. File  1.2 6 2 2 1 0 46 26 5.63   
    T. Mcmillan  3 1 1 1 1 0 37 17 1.23   
    J. Esquer  1 3 1 1 0 1 18 13 5.40   
    A. Goodspeed  0.1 4 6 6 2 0 24 14 162.16   
    D. Gonzalez  0.2 4 2 2 0 0 18 8 7.20   
    C. Piche  1 0 0 0 1 0 19 10 0.00   
     
    PITCHING
    Wild Pitches: B. Penny 
    Batters Faced: B. Penny 11, B. File 12, T. Mcmillan 11, J. Esquer 6, A. Goodspeed 7, D. Gonzalez 6, C. Piche 4 
    Ground Balls-Fly Balls: B. Penny 2-2, B. File 3-2, T. Mcmillan 4-5, J. Esquer 1-1, 
    A. Goodspeed 1-0, D. Gonzalez 2-0, C. Piche 1-2 
    Game Score: B. Penny 11 
     
     
      
    GAME INFO
    Time: 5:06
    Attendance: 44286 (44320) at Chicago West Field
    Weather: Clear skies (52 degrees), wind blowing in from left at 10 mph
    PLAYER OF THE GAME: Ron Belliard
    Game Notes:
    Jonathan Gause set a career high for runs in a game! Reynaldo Escalante set a career high for hits in a game!  
     
    

    I live-simmed both of these games with our league file converted to OOTP5 - I was Pittsburgh and Cleveland. If the box scores were updated to the page, I think they would be hyperlinked to player profiles and whatnot. The wild pitches concern me - the box scores do not record multiple ones for a single pitcher it seems; there were four wild pitches in the Pittsburgh-San Diego game and two in Chicago-Cleveland, along with a catcher's interference call in Pittsburgh-San Diego. Small sample size, though; I'm gonna try another few games live to see if the wild pitches keep up. The data conversion all looks fine as far as I can tell, though I find the "stars" rating system to be a bit crap (Hank Blalock and Grant Real are equal to Edmund Steele with 4 1/2 stars and Josh Hamilton and Joel Guzman are just half a star behind them).
     
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  16. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    I want to clarify my vote. As long as I still have the players that I have now like Hammond, Villareal, Carlos, Buehrle, etc, I don't care if we move to OOTP5 or stay with OOTP4.

    I was under the impression that if we moved to OOTP5, we would have to start over from scratch, and I would rather not do that.

    So, if we can keep the teams that we have now, then I don't have a problem going to 5 as long as the conversions aren't bad.
     
  17. NYKRule

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    Conversions are fine.

    The only reason the WPs are happening is probably because of the WP ratings have to live up to the season totals. If we did this BEFORE starting 2012 it would eliminate this problem.
     
  18. Zac D

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    Balks aren't happening, and they have ratings, nor are HBPs. Penny had already thrown 12 wild pitches in the regular season. His expected rating is 4. Groover had already thrown 22. His rating's lower than that, I believe.
     
  19. NYKRule

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    Hmm...thats weird, 22 WPs? Thats an awfully large number for OOTP4.

    Sometimes these "bugs" occur when you convert mid-year, by bugs I mean stuff out of the ordinary like that. Waiting until after the World Series (but before initializing the new season)would eliminate all problems like that.
     
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    Doesn't matter to me, as long as we don't have to start over.
     

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