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Starting Franchises???

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by franchise_3, Aug 25, 2001.

  1. franchise_3

    franchise_3 Member

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    if you were starting a Franchise who would you choose?
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    NHL-toght one here but i'm gonna say Lindros because hes my fav
    NBA-McGrady
    NFL-probably Moss, Taylor or McNabb
    MLB-Maybe Andru Jones
     
  2. vj23k

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    NBA-Garnett
    NFL-Moss
    MLB-A-Rod or Pedro Martinez(Healthy)
     
  3. gr8-1

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    NBA - Shaq, I don't think he's the best player, but he puts up the best #'s because he gets away with alot. Garnett would be #2.

    MLB- AROD

    NFL - Moss or McNabb

    NHL - Forsberg or Modano??
     
  4. fadeaway

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    Mike is one of my favorite hockey players, but he's getting up there. I'd want someone like Miriam Hossa to build my team around.
     
  5. fadeaway

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    And Randy Moss is overrated.
     
  6. Caddman

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    If anyone out there wants to start a franchise, Major League Soccer is looking to expand in 2003. Houston is at the top of their list, but no investor has stepped forward thus far. It was thought that John O'Quinn would be the investor, and the team would play at Robertson Stadium. But Mr. O'Quinn apparently has some legal troubles at the moment preventing him from doing this. So a MLS franchise can be yours for a mere 25 million dollars. And if you're looking for players, I hear Gazza wants to play in the US. Or maybe Keller would want to come back to the US by that time.
     
  7. DrewP

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    randy moss overrated?!?!?! Fadeaway, put down the crack pipe............
     
  8. SteveFrancis3

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    NBA - Stevie Franchise - Could become best player at the most important position and he is only 24.
    NFL - Daunte Culpepper - Could become best player at the most important position and he is only 24.
    MLB - ARod - Best player at a position lacking good players and he is only 26.
    NHL - Don't follow
     
  9. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    NBA - Timmy Duncan, if he got the same allowances as Shaq, or Shaq had to play like everyone else, he would be by far the best player in the league, IMO.
    NFL - Ray Lewis, this guy can really anchor a team defense, QBs and wide outs are a dime a dozen.
    MLB - Ken Griffey Jr.
    NHL - Roy, as long as the other team doesn't score any goals, I can't lose.
     
  10. haven

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    I'd agree with you about wideouts... but the QB position is the single most difficult, and there are really only about 10-T15 quality QB's in football. I think the problem with qb's is that it's the position where athleticism can cover for lack of skill the least. Ryan Leaf is the case in point.

    Most teams have a couple good linebackers. And it's not possible to make the same sort of difference from the LB position that it is from any other.

    In drafting, coaches prioritize their picks as following (empirically, these positions are drafted highest by GM's over the past 10 years):

    QB
    T
    DE
    RB

    After those four, I believe it's pretty much a wash, except for the K/P positions, which are of course, dead last. But those are the positions that make the most difference on the field. I can get you the exact stats when I'm back at my normal computer :).
     
  11. Nuggets4

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    I'd prefer my franchise player to be able to remember what he did 5 minutes ago personally.

    NHL - Forsberg
    NBA - Shaq
    NFL - McNabb
    MLB - Anyone but Pay-Rod

    <i>Gee, you can't tell I'm a Mariners fan by my last response :D</i>
     
  12. gr8-1

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    So, you'd start it with Jose Lima or Pat Rapp then? :D
     
  13. Nomar

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    NFL- Id start it with Peyton Manning.
    NBA- Kevin Garnett
    MLB- I'd have to say Garciaparra.
    NFL- Jagr
     
  14. Tolpatcsh Verkinder

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    NBA - Shaquille O'Neal : He is the most dominant player in the game today.

    NFL - Marshall Faulk : He could probably make Cade McNown or Ryan Leaf look like an NFL quarterback.

    MLB - Orlando Merced.

    NHL - Jaromir Jagr.
     
  15. ZRB

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    I would think that Mariners fans would be happy that A-Rod left. Look at what his leaving has done for the team.
     
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    That's what I would figure.
     
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    Shaq
    Peyton Manning
    Ken Griffey
     
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    I wouldn't start a franchise with him based on the fact that he's such a punk, and that he tends to sulk. It would be a pain in the ass to have to deal with him. In that sense, I agree that he's overrated.

    I also like Culpepper becuase with his incredible size a QB, I think he has a much better chance of staying healthy for a full career. Even though I'd like to build around a RB, they are incredibly suceptable to injury. Building around a reciever is kind of like building around a closer in baseball. Having great ones is wonderfull, but they get so few touches that you can't build around them.

    NHL - I don't know enough players who would be young anough and good enough to build around. A young goalie would be great, but I know of none. How about D Chris Pronger from St. Louis?

    NFL - Culpepper

    NBA - Kevin Garnett because he causes matchup problems for everyone.

    MLB - It hurts to say it, but A-Rod. I'd like to say a pitcher, but they break down too often.
     
  19. The Cat

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    NBA-- Tim Duncan. You need to start with a big man, and Shaq is older than Tim and not near as good of a 4th quarter option because of his free throw problems. KG doesn't have the back to the basket game, despite his size.

    NFL-- Daunte Culpepper. As good as Marshall Faulk and Randy Moss are, you have to start with a good QB, and I don't see how anyone could pass up the type of physical tools that Culpepper has.

    MLB-- Sammy Sosa. I don't like the Cubs either, but Sammy is awesome. He's not a bad defensive player anymore, and offensively he can do anything from go deep to get the single you need with the bases loaded. He's definitely the hitter I fear the most facing.
     
  20. Tolpatcsh Verkinder

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    I disagree that you need to start with a QB. A Great QB is an incredible thing to have, but those are rare, and you can take a phenomanal back like Faulk or George and have much more success by pairing them with mediocre QB's than you would taking a great QB and pairing them with mediocre talent at the skills positions.

    And TheCat : Sammy Sosa? Good player, but I could name ten players I'd rather have pretty easily. In fact, I will and I'll even handicap myself, and not name any Astros :

    <b>Jason Giambi
    Tim Hudson
    Ivan Rodriguez
    Alex Rodriguez
    Roberto Alomar
    Pedro Martinez
    Tom Glavine
    Greg Maddux
    Vladimir Guerrero
    Luis Gonzales
    Randy Johnson
    Curt Schilling
    Kevin Brown
    Mike Hampton</b>
    And of course, unless the voters are complete morons, the 2001 National League MVP - <b>Barry Bonds</b>
     
    #20 Tolpatcsh Verkinder, Aug 25, 2001
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