Yeah, so after Hayes started again tonight I began to think.... Man, that's like the American dream right there, working your way up, being an NBDL scrub last year and now starting on a hopeful contender after less than a season of play. That's a pretty hot deal for Hayes, but is it for the Rockets? What do you guys feel about the decision to start Hayes?
I think he provides the energy and rebounding that the Rockets need. I think it's better that he starts and lets Snyder come off the bench for that scoring spark.
I think he's not played great in his first two starts. He's fouled way too much and has committed a lot of turnovers (unlike last year, when he very rarely turned it over). But I like the energy the team plays with when he's on the floor, and that's very important when starting a game. Eventually, it's possible that Bonzi Wells will start at PF. Or, who knows, maybe JVG goes back to Juwan Howard. But for the time being, I like Hayes in there.
I've been one of the guys pimping Chuck Hayes, and I'm glad JVG has given him a chance. So far, Hayes hasn't played well in his first 3 games. However, he played very well last season, so he should be given a decent amount of playing time before any judgements are made. And it's not like Juwan hasn't turn in a bunch of crappy performances either.
Bonzi will not play PF ...he's a 2guard. I agree that I like our energy with Hayes but he's got some growing to do. Too many mistakes, fouls and missed layups. A for effort with the guy but playing big minutes is exposing his weaknesses. Hopefully he is simply learning and will improve.
He's had a problem finishing, no doubt. One of the things he did very well last year, though, was finish on those layups. Maybe he's having problems with the new ball? We'll see if it continues to be a problem. Bonzi does have the bulk, rebounding ability, and post up game to play PF. We'll be small, and it will be a bad matchup defensively against some of the bigger PFs, but that will be an option. Van Gundy has said that Bonzi will have to play some PF with this team.
hayes is 50% great and 50% scrub. by this i mean he can really rebound and defend. sure he gets called for a lot of fouls but he makes more good defensive plays than fouls. he hustles, and provides a nice energy boost for the team. he also can't finish around the rim for put backs, fast break lay ups, anything. the guy can't score for jack ****. right now he looks like ryan bowen, but strong on the boards, and with more upside. i'm fine with him starting because we need the rebounding and snyder has looked good off the bench.
Hayes is the guy that opposing team doesnt need to guard. He also should be more limited to a garbage put back/cutter on the offensive end instead of posting up take up the lane. I love his intensity on the defensive end if he can cut down some unnecessary fouls. All in all, I have no problem he starts.
I think starting hayes is a bad idea. hayes is a decent defensive player, but is a horrid offensive player. To me, he another ryan bowen. JVG seems to be in love with these types. Starting hayes allows the defense to pack it in on Yao. As you saw today. I thought we wanted that shooting four to open up space for our 2 stars. Novak should get more of a chance to play.
Long term he is definitely not the answer, he can rebound and thats why he is out there because we have no one better. He is a liability against bigger PFs, he can't guard the big PFs with post games and he is a foul machine with no offensive game. Definitely PF is a position that needs to be addressed and if we don't have success I look for a change there. Maybe we should have picked up Cato for a buck and half. KVH is not working, what about him? Who else is available?
I think he is much better than RyBo. First of all he's much more athletic and he is a pretty good rebounder. He also made some good passes today. All he needs to work on is finishing. I noticed he's been missing a lot layups and stuff like that.
Well i was all for it when we spanked the mavs on saturday but now i don't really know, its cool if he starts but i think snyder has to get a considerable amount of minutes more just cause he has more to offer. I would love to see novak get some time but i just don't think there is too many people he can guard in this league, but when croshiere(sp?) came in for dallas i saw that being a good chance to get novak in there with somebody he could handle defensively.
We have to face facts, just because geeky fantasy stats looked good for Hayes never changed that he isn't anything more than a 15 minute player. I'm really amazed how so many people keep complaining about backup PF/C like Howard or backup PF like Padgett starting PG like Alston or backup PG like Head when without doubt the starting PF spot is by far and away the biggest problem. Really to because Hayes and Novak are backups too so backup PF is strong and with Deke too backup C isn't nearly as bad as people say. The GLARING problem is NO PF who should be starting. And hopefully the forum has already realized that Battier is not a PF. It's basically detrimental to his game to make him play there and really makes no sense, because he's a damn good SF, but a below average PF. The basic hope has to be that Novak
Rockets Dynasty, you're pretty much stating the obvious. We don't have an above average starting-caliber PF on the team. We just need to go with the best option available that makes the starting lineup as effective as possible. So who do you suggest: Juwan or Novak?
Anything is better than Juwan Howard. Hayes brings intensity, hustle and heart. What more can you ask for? I like it. He's just gotta cut back on thoes careless fouls.
I think I would give Novak a shot just to see, butlikely he will get torn apart on D. I think it's probably going to end up being Hayes/Howard with either Padgett or Novak when one is hot depending on which one is and when 3 point shooting is needed to spreadt the floor. I just hope you are starting to see that a lot of these moneyball stats are absolutely worthless and mean jack shiet.
