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Starter Minutes vs Celtics & Hornets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by richirich, Mar 19, 2008.

  1. richirich

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    Rockets 154 Vs. Celtics 134, or +20 our guys

    Rockets 184 vs. Hornets 161 or +23 our guys

    As Don Cheney said after the game - fresh legs.....

    Somehow me screaming at my TV set I was still unable to properly channel my message to Adelman. I appreciate all he and the team did the past two months. But this was, it was, uhm, it was JUST PLAIN NOT VERY SMART.

    ok Landry out hurts. But Luther and Novak could have helped.
    by quarter point diffs the last two nights:
    vs Boston: +1 -1 -16 -4

    vs Hornets +8 -3 -5 -21

    The starters just ran out of gas. Adleman must have been channeling Van Gundy the last two nights which is why I could not get through the static.
    The offense has been dead. The Rockets should take some lessons from the Celtics playing up in their opponents mugs: "see, I do have bad breath!"
     
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    Um...Adelman has been overplaying Battier/Mac/Yao for the whole season...more then JVG. ;)

    Might be a factor in a 2-game losing streak.

    But it might also be a factor in a 22-game winning streak.
     
  3. richirich

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    When my gas tank is empty I either fill it back up or I send my wife to the store in her car. :D
     
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    Is Luther Head in Adelman's dog house? Does anybody know why he is not playing? I can't figure it out. We need offense in the worst way. And he's getting 2 minutes. Anybody know what's up?
     
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    i couldn't agree more... we needed luther and novak tonight.

    this ultimately was the downfall of our offense..

    you cannot have a non-stagnant offense with chuck hayes and deke playing together on the court- especially when all the calls are going in nola's favor (tmac couldn't even draw a foul- whats the point of penetration?)
     
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    you really cant figure it out?

    wow

    if luther plays who does he guard? everyone out there is a big 2 guard. you want luther on cp3? or on pargo?

    if he guards pargo then bjax is out?

    NO has big 2 guards in mo pete, wright, and bonzi

    if you put luther in there then they just post him up.

    pretty logical...cant believe you didnt get that...
     
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    downfall? wow another person who doesnt get the game of matchups.


    if luther plays who does he guard? everyone out there is a big 2 guard. you want luther on cp3? or on pargo?

    if he guards pargo then bjax is out?

    NO has big 2 guards in mo pete, wright, and bonzi

    if you put luther in there then they just post him up.

    pretty logical...cant believe you didnt get that...

    since i repeated that lets talk about novak.

    novak's def is bad, if cps is out there penetrating and dishing first novak cant help on cp3, and if he does try to help then novaks man will score.

    novak cant play **** for def and if you really think he should have been out there then we would have lost by even more.
     
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    He can't defend anybody anyways. If that's why you distribute minutes, then Luther shouldn't be in the NBA. We didn't lose because of our defense, we lost because we couldn't put it in the hole. Besides, Luther could have defended Pargo when Pargo was out there. Shoot, you could stick him on Peja. Peja ain't exactly fast or strong.

    The point is if we are going to be playing Hayes and Deke major minutes then our offense is gonna suffer. You've gotta get somebody out there that can light it up. That is Luther, Novak, and possibly Brooks.

    I'm still wondering what's up with Luther. I think something happened in that game against LA or before when Luther was missing all those 3 balls. I remember Adelman got after him for not switching off on defense and was hollering at him during the game. I'm wondering if that along with him jacking up a bunch of misses got him a seat.

    Wouldn't Mike Miller look good in a Rockets uni right about now?
     
  9. babydill

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    Come on. Novak can get on the court for 2-3 minute spurts just to make NO freak out a little. If you don't think that kid can change up a defensive scheme, you don't know basketball. I don't think other teams are spending the majority of their attention on stopping good 'ole Novak, but he is definitely a threat (regardless of his liability on the other end). If you need some scoring or just SOMETHING to get your hopes up, guys like him can't hurt. Both nights now in the third quarter, we have needed a basket just to get us going again. Subbing in random oddball lineups have HELPED us this entire streak. You don't have to do it for an entire quarter. Hell, you don't have to do it for even half the quarter. Run Brooks for 2-3 minutes. Run Novak for the same. Confuse their defense and get your guys minds back in the game. What's so bad about that?

    If you're argument is that we lose out on the defensive end then I have to wonder if you have seen the last two games. The second half of both have made our defense look like my old highschool squads D. It's awful.

    I don't know what the answer and I sure as hell trust RA over myself seeing as how he has the job and I don't. I just miss seeing the entire lineup getting some looks. I think that has been a big help in this run because it's helped our offense keep flowing. Brooks throws other PG's off sometimes with his quickness (although at the expense of a TO or two). Novak stretches the floor out. And so does Head. Neither of those three are defensive geniuses, but honestly we have needed someone to make a shot lately more than anything else.

    Hopefully things will get better. Just need to get past the Suns and then maybe we can get some rest. Hopefully RA is going to really show us how good he is in the next 14 games. This is when it counts.
     
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    thanks for the insults. maybe you should attempt to "get" something yourself. if we begin to change our rotation to always match up with the other team, then we will put ourselves in a infinitely regressive rotation.
    maybe we should be trying to make other people match up with us.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Or mix in a little zone....


    But you have to get the starters some rest.

    DD
     
  12. richirich

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    Yeah sorta like what a fast 3p shooting lineup would do vs a bunch of slow bigs.....

    Carl Landry, paging Carl Landry, come in Carl Landry!!!
     
  13. Jeff Who

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    especially with that brutal schedule

    Adelman will have to use young bodies. Everybody should be at least pretty fresh
     
  14. richirich

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    And remember who hit that game winning 3 a coupla months ago???

    (whisper: Novak!)

    Rick, play 12 guys tomorrow night, including Carl!
     
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    RA defintely has overplayed our starters for the season. With no gas in their tanks, we have seen oponents make a run against us, and we could buy a basket in the last 5 games.
     
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    Luther Head's defense and ability to run the break was for us many times during the streak. Yeah, I know that anyone can post him up, but he is really developing sneaky, Chris Paul-esque, Iverson-esque pickpocket skills. And he is the best on the team at turning those steals into points. He should have played last night.
     
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    poor choice by adelman last night not playing luther. i don't wanna hear anything about his defense when the team can't score 70 points, and tmacs legs look like jello.

    the rest that tmac did get he was replaced on the perimeter by mike harris. not the guy you want spreading the floor for you.

    lets hope that against the hornets luther receives plenty of PT. he usually has his best games against them. novak can get in the game too, and hopefully adelman will call a couple of plays for him which have been very effective.
     
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    you just proved our point...the offense has gone to **** in these games...we need luther to hit threes and spread the d...you have to let luther shot his way out of the mini-slump and we all know he will if given the oppurtunity...Luther hitting threes opens things up
     
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    Adelman's performance in the last two games has been shockingly bad. I don't understand why he played the starters so many minutes. I notice Rockets starters were dripping sweat during the whole game while Celtics and NO players never even broke a sweat!?

    I was screaming at the TV for him to call a timeout when Rox started to fall behind by the half, but he never did?? What the hell is up was with that? Coaches usually call a timeout to regroup when the team is slipping behind, but for some bizarre reason Adelman chose not to?? all I want to know is WHY??
     

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