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Standings: Is this new or has it always been the rule?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Oski2005, Dec 12, 2004.

  1. Oski2005

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    It used to just be that the division winners automatically got the #1 and #2 seeds, but since there's 3 divisions in each conference now it goes that way. So basically yeah, it's been like that for a while.
     
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    I wonder what happens if the Atlantic Div. champ has the 9th best record in the conference?
     
  4. Pat

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    The three division winners get the top three seeds. But home court advantage is determined by won/loss record. So NY could be the number three seed, but playing on the road.
     
  5. smoothie

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    so NY would just be the third seed in name. after all, home court advantage is the whole point of numbering the seeds.
     
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    Man, honestly I haven't focused too much on the standings this season. I remember last season when they announced the divisions, we thought the Southeast would be the worst NBA division ever assembled... but then the McGrady and Shaq trades changed some things and it is BY FAR the Atlantic. I can't believe one of those teams is guaranteed a playoff spot.

    Looking at the West... how in the world are we thinking the Rockets are possibly going to make the playoffs? First you take the Spurs, Mavs, T-Wolves and Kings and write them in already (in pen, not pencil). Next you have the drastically improved play of Seattle, Phoenix, Denver and the Clippers. Then the Lakers still look decent, and the Grizzlies will probably turn this around, and Portland could make a big trade (for better or worse) and Utah could still be a decent threat when they get Kirilenko back....

    This is going to be brutal.

    yeah, the seeding thing is really going to look odd this year, but homecourt advantage has always been by record, regardless of seeding. In 1996-97, the Rockets had the #3 seed, but the second-best record in the West behind Utah. So Utah got #1, Seattle (Pacific winner) #2 and Rockets #3... but when Seattle and Houston faced each other in the second round, Houston had homecourt.

    (technically Houston and Seattle had same record with 57 wins, but Houston had the tiebreaker... you get the picture though :))
     
  7. Manny Ramirez

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    I remember that vividly as it not only took Barkley BUT homecourt advantage as well to beat the team that had been a major thorn in our side in the Sonics.
     
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    i'm always watching the standings and the shocking thing is that at one point the SE had 3 of the top 5 teams in the east and not only that but miami was the 3rd team! i mean i could've seen orlando doing pretty well but not above miami and then who could possibly see washington taking off? 3 teams with solid W/L records coming out of that division and charlotte hasn't been as bad as people thought they would be (who knew trading NO for charlotte would improve the east*).

    as far as the west, i couldn't believe when i saw the clips were in the playoffs and that 11-7 (before last night) was needed for the playoffs. utah has fallen off the face of the earth both before and after ak47 got injured but jumping either LA team will be tough for us if we don't go on a big run.


    *and would new orleans stop embarrassing the west and holding back our overall record. 1-17 or 18? i know they're missing everyone good but damn. and considering byron scott couldn't have had a nice finish to his new jersey stint, what sort of overall run is he on in W-L? it's gotta be fugly.
     
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    Seeing how Seattle and Phoenix can get 50 wins by just doing a little better than 0.500 ball the rest of the way, I'd add them in pen too.

    In Pen: Spurs, Mavs, Wolves, Kings, Suns, Sonics. 6 seeds taken.

    Houston's 3 wins under 0.500, but I'd be shock if their fluff December schedule doesn't take them to 15-15. It's not crazy to think that they'll end up with 45 wins, but that could very likely be the ceiling.

    I don't think Memphis will emerge as a contender for the playoffs. They reeked of a fluke last year, and the chemistry has gone the way of the dodo. If Jason Williams is back to being Slim Shady, forget them. 35 wins.

    Utah probably will rebound, but AK47 is gone for a month, and probably won't be himself again until after the break. I'd say it's even money that they have that same 45 win max ceiling as the Rockets.

    That leaves Denver (12-8), Lakers (12-8), Clips (11-8), and Portland (10-9). Portland and Denver probably are going to keep going on the paces they're on (P-43 wins, D-49 wins). Lakers and Clips are complete wildcards. Clips are the Clips, and Kobe's Kobe.

    My bet?
    Denver and Lakers take the last two slots, and the Rockets don't get close enough to dogfight. Rockets would need to end up with a near 50-win record to grab the 8th seed, and that would mean they need to go about 40-21 from here on out.

    Evan
     
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    :( That is a steep hill to climb.

    Before the season started, I didn't think we would do better than a 7th spot, but never did I consider that we would not make the playoffs.
     

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