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Stackhouse to be traded to Wiz

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Matador, Sep 11, 2002.

  1. Matador

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    Stackhouse close to being traded to Wiz

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    Stackhouse might be involved in six-player deal

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    The Pistons are close to a deal that would send guard-forward Jerry Stackhouse, forward Brian Cardinal and center Ratko Varda to the Wizards for guard Richard Hamilton, guard Hubert Davis and guard-forward Bobby Simmons, ESPN's David Aldridge reported Wednesday.

    The deal is expected to be finalized tonight.

    Stackhouse ranked 14th in the NBA last season in scoring, averaging 21.4 points per game. The All-Star led Detroit to the Eastern Conference semifinals where it was ousted in five games by the Celtics.
     
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  2. 3814

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    I know there are a lot of stackhouse haters out there...but i do think that this trade would help the wizards.
     
  3. drapg

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    What is Detroit thinking? After finally getting Stackhouse to become team-oriented, they deal him? Maybe Coach Carlisle thinks his new found attitude is a short term thing?
     
  4. ROXTXIA

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    Is this for real? Am I hallucinating?

    Ditto on what drapg wrote. Stackhouse has been getting better and better. And now he gets traded? WTF? Detroit would have been the #2 seed in the East this year and now this? Why? Because they don't want to pay Stackhouse? From what I understand, Hamilton's up for an extension and is asking for big money, too, and he's less qualified to lead a team than Stack the vet. Hamilton came alive last year, yes.....when teams were concentrating on Jordan.

    So now the Wizards and the Pistons will be fighting for the #8 seed out East.
     
  5. getsmartnow

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    If you were the Pistons, would you trade Stackhouse for Hamilton (to a competing Eastern Conference team), or for Bonzi Wells (to a Western Conference team).....kinda makes you think, doesn't it??

    And what do the Wizards want with another SG?? They already got MJ....unless they know something we don't.

    Utter madness....:confused: :eek:
     
  6. bigsm00th

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    MJ played SF last year, and why not get Stackhouse? They hope that Jared Jeffries or Rod Grizzard works out at 3, pray that Kwame Brown develops at 4, they have Brendan Haywood at 5, and maybe Larry Hughes or Juan Dixon will become a top PG.

    There are a lot of question marks on this team still, but if just 3 of those 5 people develop, they will be a really good team.
     
  7. kidrock8

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    Not saying this is fair or not, but I'm sure it has a lot to do with how crappy Stack played in the playoffs. Pistons needed depth, and got it in this deal.
     
  8. B-Bob

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    I really don't get it from the Piston's angle. Maybe they too are joining the LeBron James sweepstakes, ;) or seriously, there might be something we don't know about Stack. :confused: I think Brian Cardinal is the best toss-in too, so the Piston's lose at the 2nd level too.
     
  9. Stevierebel

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    I don't understand why Detroit does this. Rip is a good player but why give up your best player for one who won't possibly be your best.
     
  10. Kayman

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    Great trade for the Wizards. They get an All-Star AND preserve enough cap-space to add another All-Star next year. Rip Hamilton is a free agent after next season and if they had extended him, they wouldn't have enough cap room next year.

    Detroit didn't do so bad either, in the long run Rip might be a better player than Stack. They'll have to pay him first though...
     
  11. NYKRule

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    Rip>Stack
     
  12. 3814

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    man, the crappy teams are sure improving this offseason.

    first the clips (who were decent last year, but made the playoff step this offseason by getting a. miller).

    then the bulls by getting jay williams and donyell marshall.

    then the hawks by getting glenn robinson.

    then the wizards by getting hughes, russell, dixon and stack.

    oh yeah, and the rockets ;) by gettin YAO MING...THE BIG STING. i just made that up...sounds alright, but kinda cheesy.
     
  13. Truth

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    This trade doesn't have a feeling for who got the better end. This trade has big names, but it just makes you go, HUH? It just seems like both teams just made the trade just to be able to say,"We've made a trade".But if I had to choose, I'd say Detriot is lost.
     
  14. mfclark

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    Rip's an underrated player. Is he better than Stack, as NYKRule suggests? No. But he's a very effective scorer and a good deal younger than Stackhouse is. With the rebounders and distributors they have, all he'll be asked to do is score - and that's what he does best. Hubert Davis is a nice backup at PG, though Detroit has a lot of those players.

    Stackhouse is a free agent after this season. Think Washington's trying to clear some salary for next year? Wouldn't surprise me. An improvement now, but Cardinal and Varda won't make the roster while the Wiz no longer have a long term solution at SG - unless, of course, their plan has changed and Hughes is now that player.

    Curious as to why either team would make the deal, though. Answers some of DCkid's questions in another thread, though!
     
  15. Shooter1583

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    I think this is a good deal for the Wizards, but what were the Pistons thinking?? Well, atleast the Wizards will likely be playoff contenders:

    PG: Larry Hughes/ Juan Dixon/ Chris Whitney/ Tyronn Lue
    SG: Jerry Stackhouse/ Michael Jordan
    SF: Bryon Russell/Jarrod Jeffries/ Tyrone Nesby
    PF: Christian Laettner/Etan Thomas
    C: Brendan Haywood/ Jahidi White

    I may be missing some players but that's the gist of it. And, yes, Doug Collins has already said that MJ will be coming off the bench this year.
     
  16. alaskansnowman

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    Terrible deal for the pistons... Rip is a 1 dimensional scorer with a good jumpshot. He played well last year b/c of MJ - what will happen if defenses start concentratin on him? He doesnt have great handles, no great atheletcism, no driving and finishing ability - he's just a poor man's allan houston.
     
  17. PiPdAdY33

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    Terrible analogy, at this point in his career I'd probably say he's better then Houston because he's not as slow and his handles aren't as horrible. He also actually has a better shot and is better at creating his own shot. Rip is also still young and keep improving. But yes overall what a stupid trade by the Pistons, to trade away what little talent they had. Things are looking good for the Wizards, two nice pick ups, Russel and Stackhouse.
     
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  18. JBIIRockets

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    I agree with you completely. Stack pulled some disappering acts in the playoffs last year, with the exception of his tremendous game 2 against the Raptors.

    But the Pistons were 0 and 5 on the road in the 2002 playoffs
     
  19. Red Chocolate

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    Allan Houston sucks and has been one of the more overrated players in the league for about 4-5 years. Rip Hamilton has better skills than Houston because he has a pretty solid driving game, which is why he does get to the FT line. Hamilton also may someday develop some more passing skills, something which Houston has NEVER been able to do.

    He's also got arguably the best midrange jumper in the game for a SG, bar none. Hamilton was putting up numbers late in the 2000-2001 season WITHOUT MJ around; it may be harder for him to score without a serious prime time player on his team, but he does have the ability to score 1 on 1 against pretty much anyone.

    I like the trade for Washington though. Stackhouse is a fierce competitor, gets to the FT line with the best of them, and puts up about 6 assists and rebounds per game. He's not a bad defender and has 3 point range. They gave up Hubert Davis as well, who I am a fan of, but given the talent the Wizards have at the guard position, he was clearly expendable. Plus, Stackhouse has the ability to distribute which makes up for the Wizards' lack of PG depth.
     
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    This deal is crazy! First of all Hamilton IS NOT a one-dimensional player. The guy can shoot, drive, rebound and is a great defender. And the guy is VERY athletic, he was heart of UConn's national championship team. Personally I think he's going to be another Michael Finley. Hamitlon and Houston have NOTHING in common. This deal makes no sense, Detroit already had a conference title contender, now they have to rebuild chemistry. This is a good trade though for Washington. While Hamilton is a very good player (I wish the Rockets could get him), he fits with Jordan better in a wing attack.
     

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