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Stackhouse or Mobley?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Possum, Sep 11, 2002.

  1. Possum

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    Washington traded Richard Hamilton to Detroit today for J Stackhouse. Here's my question, would it have been a good move for the Rockets to swap Mobley for Stackhouse? I know he's Steve’s buddy and all so save your insightful comments like Mobley’s not going anywhere. I just want to know if people think it would have been a good move and improved our team. PS I'm not a Cat hater just wondering.
     
  2. Sofine81

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    I would rather have Cat, He fits our scheme better imo.
     
  3. Tonaaayyyy

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    i would rather keep Cat cuz hes one of the better one on one player and hes younger too..even tho cat can go crazy sometimes..hes learning to follow the game better..and thats what i think :D :D
     
  4. crash5179

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    Oh hell no! Stack is the most overratted player of all time. He scores a lot of points but hurts his team doing it since he does not even hit 40% of his shots. Imagine if Jason Kidd stopped passing the pall and started throwing up 27 shots a game. Not a pretty thought but he would surely avg in the mid to high 20's and challenge for the scoring title.

    Cat on the other hand his improved his shooting percentage every year he has been in the NBA and he is many times more efficient at scoring points than Stack.

    Stack sucks.
     
  5. kidrock8

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    How so? Explain our scheme, and explain how Mobley fits into our "scheme" better?
     
  6. kidrock8

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    Give me Stackhouse. They are about even, but Stackhouse is taller. Also, Stackhouse is a better finisher than Cat. Cat's great at getting to the hoop, but he misses a lot of layups.
     
  7. crash5179

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    Oh please! How can you say that a person that shoots 39% form the feild is a better finisher than Cat? Cat was 40% better than Stack at putting the rock in the basket, and that includes lay ups.
     
  8. RocksMillenium

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    Look I know you hate Cuttino but come on! The "he misses layups" thing is ridiculous when Cat shoots BETTER from the field then Stackhouse. And so what if he's taller, Russell is also taller. So you'll take Bryon Russell over Cuttino Mobley? You want somebody to explain our "scheme", well Stackhouse has bounced around the league because he hasn't fit into anybody's "scheme" because the guy has a big head. He plays one year of team ball (last year), and people talk like it's a minor miracle. If it's a minor miracle that a guy is willing to team player then that's a SERIOUS problem! I'd rather have Cat's 40+ % and "missing free throws" over Stackhouse's under 40% shooting and "being a better finisher".
     
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  9. Drexlerfan22

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    Umm, Mobley. Check please.
     
  10. kidrock8

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    My goodness.

    Stackhouse is the player on the Pistons who has to take the tough shot with the clock running out. Yes, Mobley does too, but not to the extent that Stackhouse has to. Using your logic, Mobley is much better than AI, too right?

    When has Mobley played team ball the last 2 seasons? Stack's 1 year of "team ball" is more than Mobley. I don't really count his 99 rookie year, when he was a below average player playing our of position at PG. And what do you mean by "missing free throws"? I never dissed Cat's FT shooting.
     
  11. R0ckets03

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    Ever heard of chemisty kidrock? Roster overhaul every year is not a good thing.

    Please explain to us why you are a Rockets fan? Do you like anything about them?
     
  12. RocksMillenium

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    Here's a comparison of Mobley and Stackhouse last year:

    Mobley:
    21.7 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 1.47 spg, 85% FT, 43.8 % FG, 39.5% 3PT

    Stackhouse:
    21.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 1.01 spg, 85% FT, 39.7% FG, 28.7% 3pt

    Career averages:
    Mobley:
    17.3 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 1.1 spg, 83.9% FT, 43.4% FG, 37% 3pt

    Stackhouse:
    21.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg 1.1 spg, 80.5% FT, 41% FG, 30.4% 3pt


    The only difference between Stackhouse and Mobley talent wise is that Mobley shoots better from the field and perimeter then Stackhouse, Stackhouse is slightly taller. As for Stackhouse being a "A better finisher", and Mobley missing lay-ups, Mobley's worse percentage year from the field was 42.5%, his rookie year. His worse 3pt percentage was 35.8%, also his rookie year. Stackhouse's best 3pt percentage was 35.1%, which is lower then Mobley's <i>career average</i>! Stackhouse's best year from the field was 43.5%, only .1 more then Mobley's career average of 43.4% How does this make Stackhouse a better finisher? I'll take Mobley.
     
  13. Sofine81

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    Well Kid Rock I dont care much for you, but here is how I see it ok.

    Our Scheme is this, We Have Steve, We have Ming, We have Griffin, I think Cat fits in well with that group of guys. Each one is good at scoring and can shoot pretty descent. However you throw in Stackhouse, Stakhouse LOVES to take EVERY shot in the game. So basically what Im saying is, is this, Cat fits better cause he knows his place.

    Yess I know he takes his fair share of shots but he knows when to let Steve take over, thats just the way I see. Of course Im sure you will come up some reason why you think Im wrong and thats ok, you do it to everyone! Why should I be different!
     
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    Actually I meant missing lay-ups, which you accused Mobley of. And give me a break, Stackhouse takes the big shots on Detroit and so does Cliff Robinson. The Pistons started winning because Cliff Robinson came over and took up the scoring load. On the Rockets Mobley and Francis fill that role. And unless Mobley's career averages are equal with Allen Iverson my example doesn't say that Mobley is a better player then Iverson. It does say that Mobley is a better FIT with the Rockets then Iverson. And it says he is a better fit for the Rockets then Stackhouse to. You ask when has Mobley played team ball in his career? I don't know, his rookie year when the Rockets MADE THE PLAYOFFS! You can say you don't count his rookie year, but last I checked that year actually happened. He also played team ball when they won 45 games 2 years ago. And he played team ball last year on an injury-riddled team. And his 2nd year in the league when he had to pick up the load along with Francis after Barkley went down with an injury. Now other then last year name the last time Stackhouse played serious team ball in the NBA without getting a reputation of butting heads with the other players on the team?
     
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    I'd rather stick with Mobley and let the team mature together. Rudy loves the guy (insert your own so does steve joke here) so I say we keep him around.
     
  17. ricerocket

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    No. Chemistry, chemistry, chemistry... Cat's ego fits with the coach and the team, even though it can get big at times with his ball hogging.

    I think Mobley is a better overall player and fit for the team.
     
  18. off_welfare

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    I'll stick wif Cat
     
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    Hello everyone ! I am Drexler's fan form china ! I am sorry my english is very poor :p
    I think Stackhouse is the player who good play in season,but he was bad play in playoff !
     
  20. Franchise2001

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    Ming say: "Cat with Rice together make gooood team!"
     

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