SPURS prove that they just DON'T want to WIN...

Spurs fan I take it?

Azim da Dream

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wth are you talking about? Tony Parker was said to be the best PG prospect in the draft. his potential is equal to that of Griffin i believe. I like their starting 5 next year if they move DA to the 3, start Daniels at OG, and put Parker/Porter at the point.

Their collapse vs LA was mostly mental, and i'm sure they will provide the biggest threat to the Lakers reign next year.

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I expect that David will sign for less to help re-sign Anderson, then he will BURN the Spurs and sign somewhere else. They will proceed to lose Elliot to retirement, and Johnson and Ferry to free agency. Spurs lineup for 2001-02.

Danniels
Jackson
Walker
Duncan
unhappy Robinson


Oh yeah, that's a great team...

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that paris basket racing guy is supposed to be some great bball playa.

 

Um, you mean you hope. DA's return
is pretty much up to SA.

Fine for Elliott and AJ to go. Ferry will
stick around as no one is going to give him
the MCE.

Oh yeah, that's a great take...



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This is the #28 pick. The Spurs manage to
pick up a highly regarded point guard
prospect, one which is regarded as the
best in the draft at #28...how is that bad?
Daniels is not the best point around.
The coaching staff is set on him at the
2, while playing some 1 on occassion. The
Spurs can't afford to have him on the bench,
but they definitely will need a better
ballhandler.

Parker's 6'2". The TNT info was wrong.

Parker, Wallace, and Jefferson were the
Spurs' targets in the draft. They had a
deal for Toronto's #17 to land Parker, but
that fell through. That's right, they were
trying to deal up to land this guy.

I will say this...the Spurs' draft MO has
always been to unload the late first
round pick and that guaranteed contract,
usually for exisiting talent. The fact
that they kept it and drafted a 19 year old
says enough if you follow the team. The
player-personnel department is run by
Sam Schuler, who also held that position
with the Warriors in the early 90s when they
had a number of successful middle to late
1st round picks (Sprewell being the most
prominent). I haven't seen Schuler this
excited about a pick in SA, ever.

The Spurs will have plenty of cap space
left over AFTER DA and DRob re-sign.
DRob doesn't have to take a small deal to
fit in DA, but he does in order for the
Spurs to fit in another large free agent
contract. I'd like to dream and see Finley
coming, but that's just as much a
dream...well, less a dream than that lineup
posted above by a Rockets fan.

I see the Spurs making a play for Eddie
Robinson in free agency, then probably
adding another decent swingman to the bench
along with another decent backup PF/C.

The DA at 3 concept has been thrown around,
but I don't see Pop going with that next
season. He went with it during the WCF out
of necessity.

The Spurs will reload and should improve
the starting small forward and backup center
spots.

I'm not sure what Mo Dawg is complaining
about...things are going well in SA.

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[This message has been edited by MrSpur (edited June 29, 2001).]

 

how can you say things are going well in san antonio?


not only did the spurs get swept (embarrasingly, at that!) by the lakers...

1) they did not address the issue of not being able to defend larger guards.

2) they still plan on bringing back an utterly useless point guard (avery johnson). especially against a zone defense.

3) they have NO starting 3

4) they have a terrible coach (refuses to make game time adjustments. dave for 30 minutes against la?)

5) their best backup big man is 6'6" (malik rose)

6) antonio daniels still can't get out of pop's doghouse and onto the court @ the point.

7) their defensive "protector" is an aging, back-ailing, david robinson (soft as tissue).

8) sean elliot is retiring

9) jaren jackson is still on payroll, but not on playroll

10) uncertain as to whether derek anderson's shoulder will reheal 100%

11) uncertain as to whether derek will resign (said he WILL NOT give a hometown deal)

12) lacking youthful outside shooting (tp is VERY old, kerr has splinters, da has a separated shoulder, etc.)


things are far from fine in san anto. and it's the conceited, arrogant attitude spurs' fans have that will keep their team from realizing the depth of doo doo they are in!

 

Just explained it.

Not the only ones. I guess better to watch
your team in the playoffs than otherwise.

Finley was handled well in the Dallas series.
If you are referring to Kobe, who exactly
handles him well defensively?

Actually, no. AJ is gone.

That's what an offseason and cap space are for.

So he should've played him through foul
trouble though he was not getting any calls?

If Pop was a terrible coach, he'd be gone.

Walker played well when Rose was out.
With the Spurs cap space it won't be hard
to add another PF/C to the bench.

That might change this next season. Perhaps
they bring in someone else in to start and
run AD as the 3rd guard. The last time I
checked, they have the cap flexibility to
do what they want. Of course, you have
AJ coming back when he is not.

Soft? Yet how is he soft if he is playing
with an ailing back? Poor Spurs, they have
David Robinson as their center...

See response to your point (3).

That's fine. Spurs have significant cap
flexibility even with him around.

Uncertain? The guy returned during the
playoffs.

And who is going to offer him more? Even
if somehow his price was the max, the Spurs
can bring him back, resign DRob for one year,
and still have the cap space to address the
3 spot.

Yet DA is youthful, no? AD and him shot 40%
on 3s this last season, but I guess that
doesn't count.

Things are just fine in SA. It's conceited,
arrogant, and ill-informed fans of other
teams who don't realize how little they know
about teams other than their own, apparently.

I guess if you think the hypothetical lineup
given above is the Spurs lineup next season,
this concept is shocking.



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[This message has been edited by MrSpur (edited June 29, 2001).]

 

for bigger guards, see:

jason kidd (gone to east now, but point is the same)

kobe bryant (must at least contain him. your argument that "no one handles him" is weak.)

sam cassell (in east, but still gave spurs fits, along w/ray allen)

michael finley (true, you held him in check in the playoffs. but it wasn't the guards who deserved the credit. had juwann shown up, the spurs' post players would not have been able to help nearly as much.)


as a matter of fact, just list any tempo-dominating guard vs. the spurs. like allen iverson. like any guard that knows how to score in the paint, since the spurs perimeter defense is VERY overrated. it's your interior defense that's been good.

 

watch the news, avery is still talking about returning to the spurs.

 

oh yea, with this OFFSEASON & CAP SPACE, who do you think the spurs are gonna target? so far, all i've heard in the way of 3's for the spurs to target has been shandn andersn. that's directly from the sa express news.

that has been the only talked about 3 for the spurs to pursue. the rumors of eddie robinson are contained to the internet. i've seen no mention of it any other place.

so, Mr.Spur, who are the spurs targeting to fill the 3 spot and shore up their backcourt???

 

AJ may want to come back, but the Spurs don't want him back.

Cassell, Bryant, Iverson, etc...are going to
get theirs. Period. Christie was
supposedly 1st team defense and look how well
he did versus Bryant.

The rules changes will make defending any
player easier. Don't forget that the
handchecking rules have been relaxed some.



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and my comment about dave has nothing to do with his willingness to play through pain. it has EVERYTHING to do with his willingness to "bring it" when it counts...which he never has done.

notice how mutombo at least fought his ground against shaq. did you, or have you ever - HONESTLY - ever seen dave do that? esp. against shaq? or did he punk out with reaching fouls, like he always does???


and regarding derek anderson, are you silly enough to think that just because he came back against la, meant that he was 100% healthy?

do you really think he was playing @ 100%???

3rd degree separated shoulders DO NOT HEAL in 2 weeks. they almost always become chronic. and they often never heal back to 100%.


do your research, Mr.Spur.

 

ROTFLM muthafuchin AO!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!


yea, there are no bad coaches that have jobs in the nba. if he were a bad coach, he'd be gone.

is he gonna fire himself and hire a good coach? is peter holt gonna fire his gm & coach? nope and nope.

pop is a TERRIBLE coach. what he should have done is tried different players to at least "slow down" shaq. samaki, shawnelle, et al, are far from nba stars. but they are big enough to put some fatigue on shaq. instead, who did pop put on shaq when dave was on the bench for 18 minutes per game???

MALIK ROSE. 6'6" MALIK ROSE. who got obliterated.

yea, that was the right move to make.


oh, and don't come back with that bullsh!t response of..."oh, if you could do better why aren't you coaching" cause 1) you don't know me, 2) you don't know what i do & 3) even the president of the united states makes obvious mistakes that common people can point out and be right about.

 

A reasonable selection would be Eddie
Robinson. As for Anderson, I don't see it.
He wasn't interested in '99.

Popovich runs a tight ship. This is normal
for the Spurs. Anytime info about a player
the Spurs are interested in comes out, the
leak is from the other team involved.

As for ERob, the Spurs can offer him more
money than Charlotte and a starting spot.

There are a number of free agents out there,
a limited number of teams with middle class
exceptions available and a limited number
of teams with any cap space. In addition,
there are a number of teams looking to dump
contracts to avoid the luxury tax.

The bottomline is that the Spurs have plenty
of options.

I can assure you that Jackson and Walker in
the starting lineup is not one of them.




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Robinson had plenty of success versus O'Neal
during O'Neal's first 5 years in the league.

O'Neal is the best center in the NBA, in the
prime of his career.

He was, otherwise he would not have come back.

I see. Are you a MD? If he was good enough
to play, it must not have been that bad.

I do. Perhaps you should try too.



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What? You don't think that Holt can fire
Popovich?

I would assume that you realize that most of
the Spurs GM/player-personnel operations are
handled by Sam Schuler and RC Buford. But
of course, you knew that, eh?

F-o-u-l t-r-o-u-b-l-e.

So what? He went with it. If they are
not comfortable with that and/or Walker,
then they have the flexibility to make
changes. I notice that you have yet to
dispute the fact that the Spurs have
significant cap flexibility this summer.

Since you are the 'expert' on the Spurs
situation, is this wrong? Or how does
that not matter?

And he's still POTUS and you are still
sitting at home rubbing one out every
morning, noon, and night.



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