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Sportsline says Tskita and Al Harrington On Trading Block

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by F.D. Khan, Jan 14, 2004.

  1. F.D. Khan

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    http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/NBA_SC-RUMOR

    With our dire need for a real three Al Harrington and
    Nikoloz Tskitishvilli are two players that could be a good fit
    for this team. If we move MoT to the starting lineup then
    either of these two would be able to help Yao rebound in
    the middle.

    I like Jim Jackson, but he is undersized at the three and I would
    prefer a 3-man backcourt rotation of JJ, Francis and Cat. JJ is not
    exactly young either and I'm weary of playing him so much if
    we are serious about making a playoff run.

    I don't know what it would take to get either of these two.

    Denver is weak at the 2-guard spot and the center spot.
    Indiana is weak at the same positions.

    Would anyone consider trading Cuttino or Cato for Al Harrington or Tskita?? Tskita is still very young, but is an amazing talent and Al Harrington is a superb 3/4 that is only expendable b/c of Jermaine O'Neal and Ron Artest.
     
  2. SamFisher

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    Tskitashvili backed up Nachbar.

    I repeat, Tskitashvili backed up Nachbar.
     
  3. crash5179

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    I don't think I would trade Cat.

    I would like to take a chance on Skita though. I think he could still turn into a very good player in another year or two.
     
  4. F.D. Khan

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    Yeah Sam, But Tskita was 16-17 at the time.

    Europe is also the type of league that doesn't play based on talent, but on current ability. That means that Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler, Kwame, even Garnett, McGrady and Kobe wouldn't have gotten playing time early.

    It was said that Rudy T was very impressed with him and he is now probably around 20 only.
     
  5. Nolen

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    We need a bad mofo at the 4 more than we do at the 3. It would be nice to have a stud at every position, but with the way JJ has been playing, he gets no complaints from me.

    Now, if we could get Tinsley with Harrington...
     
  6. Rockets2K

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    I dont see how we get either one of these guys without giving up anyone who I wouldnt want to lose.

    Cat or Cato?

    both of these guys have been consistently good at their positions this year.
    Cat's defensive abilities and shooting are valuable assets to us.
    Cato's rebounding, hustle, blocking abilities, and in general meanness in the paint are something we have been aching for.

    If the man could just hit that 12 footer more often like he was last night...:eek:

    Who else could we afford to lose?
     
  7. nyquil82

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    nachbar for skita? i think i could do that. besides, skita seems to be a much harder worker than boki.
     
  8. Deuce

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    I dont think Skita would work well on a JVG team. Al Harrington however is a different story. He works VERY well in the Rick Carlisle defensive system. He is a nice energy player and I would love to see him added to our team. Not sure what I would give up for him, but he is a solid player. I do know that the Pacers love Harrington too so I am not so sure he is on the block. But they DO have a ton of SFs in Harrington, Artest, Bender and Croshere.

    A while back I brought up a possible trade idea of
    Mobley/Cato
    for
    Harrington/Pollard/Tinsley.

    Any takers for that?

    That would make our line up be

    Francis/Tinsley/ Mark Jackson
    JJ/Pike
    Harrington/Padgett
    Taylor/Spoon
    Yao/Pollard

    Pacers would have a line up of
    Anderson/Johnson
    Miller/Mobley
    Artest/Bender/Crosher
    O'neal
    Cato/Foster

    Mobley would be deadly off their bench as a 6th man.
     
  9. Rockets2K

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    Duece...that would leave us too weak at the 4.

    Mo has been better defensively, and on the glass this year...but still.
    Pike has been very inconsistent...nay...he has been horrible.
    very little D...very little O.

    you would be getting rid of two of our high energy hustle players for another PG, a halfass center and a decent 3.

    me no likey
     
  10. HeyDude

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    Cato and Cat are the only reason we still have a pulse right now. I wouldnt trade them for 3 of their bench players.
     
  11. GATER

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    Spot on about Skita. Too young and the wrong kind of talent for the current VG structure.

    After you're prior post about Harrington, I specifically watched him recently vs Dallas and San Antonio. Two things struck me. He's got enough athleticism to play the Dirk-type WC PF's but he really makes some bad court decisons (he's young). IMO, he'd be a slight risk (banking on upside) and it would depend on the deal. Cato and Mobley is a lot to give up when Pollard type backups can be signed this summer.

    IMO, something of a Cato/Mobley trade (barring a blockbuster) won't take place until the summer after JVG has had a chance to assess the teams needs.
     
  12. New Jack

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    Harrington can play the backup minutes at the power forward position. He's 6'9 and 250 pounds with freakish athletic ability and he brings as much energy as both Cato and Cat.

    While Taylor doesn't have Cato's rebounding ability, Harrington is a good enough rebounder at the 3 (7 rebs a game) to compensate having a weak rebounder at the 4.
     
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    Saw Skita this summer in the Pro league...kid has serious skills and just needs confidence and PT to bring it out. It's no stretch to compare him to a young Novitski. He'd be a great three, as he can't handle to paint just yet, but can stroke it from outside and even drive it a bit. actually, that's probably why he's on the block...carmelo will have that spot locked up for the next decade.
     
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    For the record, the deal I proposed is not one I think is a slam dunk by any means. I am not so sure I would do it myself, but I would think about it.

    I agree GATER, baring a blockbuster trade for a huge talent (such as a Rasheen Wallace), I dont seem them being moved during the season.
     
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    Tskitishvilli is one year away from being labeled a bust.
     
  16. gucci888

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    I've been toying with that idea for a while, expecially when Tinsley wasn't playing. Well, Tinsley is back on his game and the Pacers are winning and winning big. Kinda ironic how what the Pacers wanted (a shooter and a center) is exactly what the Rockets could have given them. Oh well.
     
  17. Easy

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    Sam, that's not really fair. Tskitashvili was a teenager when Nachbar was already an accomplished pro. But every scout last year knew that Skita had much more potential than Boki.

    Skita was seen as a potential star, whereas Boki has never been projected as anything more than a solid role player.

    Whether Tskitashvili's potential will materialize is still hard to tell.
     
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    He must have regressed when he got here... :eek:
     
  19. Easy

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    Yeah, it's really disappointing. Many people still have hope in him. I guess judging how Euro players can translate their game into the NBA setting is not that simple. Some blossom. Some don't. Maybe that also has something to do with what kind of coach and what kind of team they get into.
     
  20. SamFisher

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    What happened is that we milked the talent reservoir dry (sort of like what has happened to the college game). Prior to 2001 or 2002, only the best of the best Euros came over here (Petrovic, Nowizitzki, Stojankovic, Schrempf, Divac, etc etc.) From then on, when everybody saw a slavic name, or an otherwise consonant heavy player, everybody immediately pronounced him "the next [insert "-vic" here], when, after the cream was skimmed off the top (Gasol, Nowizitizki at young ages) the talent pool became more and more diluted. Accordingly,you get draft day evaluations of Vladimir Radomanovic like this:
    Can play 2 or 3 position? Right....last time I checked he barely had enough speed to guard SF's and was spending time at PF. My god, imagine him trying to guard Mobley one on one....that is almost scary.
     

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