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[Sports] You have an affair, should that affect your team captaincy?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mathloom, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    The question is simple.

    I think having an affair should have no effect on whether or not you are a good football (or soccer I guess) player and a good captain. This case is a bit sticky because teammates have allegedly lost respect for Terry, but that's not very proffessional of them, plus, if they lost respect for him, he should lose his place and not only the captain's armband.

    Here's the issue:

    Since I know you'll ask anyway, here's the chica:

    Somewhat NSFW Pic
     
  2. CrazyDave

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    Sounds like he thinks that what he thinks is all that matters, and that his teammates may have lost respect for him. Regardless what's right, if they have lost respect for him, it may be detrimental to the team for him to be the captain.

    Then again, who cares?
     
  3. Honey Bear

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    They haven't "allegedly" lost respect for him over one affair. He has been openly seeing women other than his wife, heavily drinking, getting into fights and urinating in public throughout his professional career.

    But he's still a winner, a great defender, and isn't going to lose the respect of anyone who counts if he keeps playing well. That's what separates being an athlete from having a desk job.
     
  4. Dairy Ashford

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    If Wayne Bridge is a teammate of some sort, then it probably makes sense. But absent that it really doesn't. Coaches cheat every minute of everyday, they're all competitive, rich, popular alpha males for goodness sake.
     
  5. Honey Bear

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    Perroncel is the perfect chick to have on the side. She's got great hips and curves, a little extra fat so you can really have your way with her, nice style, seductive eyes and a calm demeanor.

    The pics that count.

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  6. ChrisBosh

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    He slept with a teammates girlfriend......... a captain should be able to command respect from the team, I think this act nullified any credibility he had.......the teammate supposedly was a really good friend of his too...funny stuff.
     
  7. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    EX-girlfriend. The only reason Wayne Bridge is even mentioned is to spice up the story. The real issue is that he cheated on his wife.

    The only consideration is his position as a role model for young children IMO.

    I imagine this happens all the time and players know about it far more often than the media does, so why should this be made such a big deal since it's unluckily more visible?

    I don't know. You want to win the world cup, you need football players. Maradona was a cocaine abuser and he is still hailed as the G.O.A.T. in the football world. Michael Jordan was not a "good guy" by any means. Tiger Woods... well, you catch my drift.
     
  8. JuanValdez

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    I don't see infidelity as a reason to lose a captaincy, but not having the team's respect sure is. If the other players want him out, he should be out.
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    That depends upon what his teamates think......

    DD
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    Role model matters in terms of the teams' marketing but doesn't necessarily affect his ability to be a team captain.

    Good point. I think the key is what the rest of the team thinks. If they care about that then he probably isn't going to be a good captain. For instance a team of Mormons might not be willign to follow a captain who is an alcoholic.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    What goes on the in bedroom doesn't have any affect on my judgment of anyone as a leader.

    As long as they're not raping people, or something.
     
  12. lpbman

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    Could not care less if that guy is a captain or not... and such things are too complex for really useful heuristics beyond the p*rnography "I know it when I see it" regardind his suitability to lead.

    I am also usually last in line to declare someone unfit for the hot label, but in a celebrity context, that girl is a D- version of Kaylee (Firefly). Not impressed.
     
  13. ChrisBosh

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    Bridge has a son with the ex-girlfriend. Does that change anything? IMO that's a big factor left out of the details in the article you posted.......I can see how teammates might have an issue with this....


    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK...ys-Max-Clifford/Article/201001415538796?f=rss
     
  14. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Since it is suckor, they are all a bunch of nancy boys who couldn't play a real sport anyway; so who gives a crap?
     
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  15. PlanetG

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    It's a little bit annoying sometimes when "integrity in the sport" clouds with conduct outside the sport. If the team's respect for him was lost, I wish I knew why they should care so much about what he does on his own time? Didn't ever seem to effect his role on the team - and wasn't he likely happier and more amicable before they found out? :dunno:

    Not trying to hijack, but the story reminds me of the Tiger iteration where PGA players are set to be calling for him to "explain himself more" before he comes back on tour. Sheesh.

    If soccer was John Terry's job, then work followed him home. Not a fan of that. :(
     
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    maybe the billions of people who watch soccer

    lol
     
  17. ChrisBosh

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    John Terry stripped of England captaincy by Capello

    Defender John Terry has been stripped of the England captaincy following allegations he had an affair with an England team-mate's ex-girlfriend.

    Terry, 29, held talks with England boss Fabio Capello at Wembley on Friday.

    "After much thought I have made the decision that it will be best for me to take the captaincy away from John Terry," said Capello in a statement.

    Terry said he fully respected Capello's decision to demote him, adding he would still "give everything for England".

    Their next match is a home friendly against Egypt on 3 March as they continue their preparations for the World Cup in South Africa.

    Capello returned to the United Kingdom on Thursday and is thought to have been keen to resolve the issue before travelling to Poland for Saturday's Euro 2012 draw.

    The Italian, 59, who has been recovering from knee surgery in Switzerland, has been monitoring the fall-out from the Terry saga closely and has regularly spoken to his trusted lieutenant Franco Baldini.

    Baldini, England's general manager, held in-depth talks with four key FA board members on Monday - chairman Lord Triesman, chief executive Ian Watmore, director of communications Adrian Bevington and head of development Trevor Brooking.

    They agreed that Capello alone would make the decision about Terry's future and that the priority was to make the right decision rather than a quick one.

    "As a captain with the team, John Terry has displayed extremely positive behaviour," read Capello's statement.

    "However, I have to take into account other considerations and what is best for all of the England squad.

    "What is best for all of the England team has inspired my choice.

    "John Terry was notified first.

    "When I chose John Terry as captain, I also selected a vice-captain (Rio Ferdinand) and also named a third choice. There is no reason to change this decision.
    "I would like to take this opportunity to thank The FA, particularly Lord David Triesman and Ian Watmore for allowing me to make this decision in my own time and in the best interest of the team."

    Terry, a married father of twins, was appointed captain in August 2008.

    In the 15 matches in which he wore the armband under Capello, England won 11 and drew two, qualifying easily for this year's World Cup.

    He is alleged to have had an affair with Vanessa Perroncel, the former girlfriend of England and former Chelsea team-mate Wayne Bridge.

    Bridge, who has a son with the French model, moved to Manchester City in January 2009 and is recovering from a knee injury that has kept him out of action for the last two months.

    Meanwhile, Perroncel, a lingerie model and former nightclub hostess, said she would not be selling her story.

    In a statement read on her behalf by publicist Max Clifford, Perroncel said: "I have decided I do not want to speak publicly about the speculation since it only seems to add more fuel to the fire.

    "I have a three-year-old son and he is my main concern. I do not believe speaking to newspapers or the media is in his interest or my own."



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/8495604.stm
     
  18. rhino17

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    I think if he does it with the wife of a teammate, it should, otherwise, probably not. How can you captain your team when you don't respect your teammates enough to the point that you are impregnating their wives?
     

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