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Source claims Patriots taped Rams before Super Bowl

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by KingCheetah, Feb 2, 2008.

  1. KingCheetah

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    Interesting timing with the release of this report...
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    Report: Source claims Patriots taped Rams before Super Bowl

    An unnamed source has claimed a New England Patriots employee secretly videotaped the St. Louis Rams' pregame walk-through the day before Super Bowl XXXVI, the Boston Herald reported Saturday.

    According to the report, an unnamed source close to the team during the 2001 season said that following the Patriots' walk-through at the Louisiana Superdome, a member of the team's video staff stayed behind and taped the Rams' walk-through -- a non-contact, no-pads practice at reduced speed in which a team goes through its plays.

    The cameraman was not asked to identify himself or produce a press pass and later rode the media shuttle back to the Patriots' hotel, the source told the Herald. It is not known what became of the tape, or whether the cameraman made the tape on his own initiative or at someone else's instruction, according to the report.

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    Former Patriots video assistant hints at team's spying history

    Matt Walsh worked seven years with the New England Patriots before being let go on Martin Luther King Day in 2003. He was on the New Orleans Superdome sidelines when the Pats kicked off their dominant run, upsetting the St. Louis Rams in the 2002 Super Bowl. He wasn't a chiseled athlete, but a go-getter who climbed his way up the team's support staff ladder -- first as a public relations intern, then as a video assistant and later, in his last year, a college scout.

    Mostly, though, his years with New England were spent shooting football video.

    He was the third, and last, employee on the video staff. In his words, he was Matt Estrella before Matt Estrella, a reference to the Patriots video assistant caught filming the Jets' defensive signals by league officials last September at halftime of a game against New York -- the violation that birthed "Spygate" and led, in part, to some of the heftiest penalties in league history. New England coach Bill Belichick was fined $500,000 -- the biggest fine ever for a coach -- and the team was docked its first-round draft choice this year.

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  2. KingCheetah

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    If Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, is serious about calling a hearing to delve into the issue -- particularly the questions of why the NFL hastily destroyed all evidence, including tapes handed over by the Patriots, and what other as-yet-undisclosed material might be out there -- perhaps one of his first calls should be to Walsh, who in conversations with ESPN.com suggested he has information that could be damaging to both the league and the Patriots.
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    Should have included this in the original post from the second article -- this is more than just pre-super bowl hype.
     
  3. moestavern19

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    I think the Patriots should be forced to return their Super Bowl trophies and all of them should then be burned at the stake.
     
  4. Rowdie Brandon

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    lol @ the patriots getting blasted.........
     
  5. WWR

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    Get off of the sauce. They're an awesome team and have been since 2001. They have earned everything they have won.
     
  6. steddinotayto

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    It's quite coincidental that they bring this tidbit out right before the Super Bowl. What, they couldn't have waited a day AFTER the Super Bowl?

    As for as taping, if they did I honestly doubt it had THAT much effect on a game where it was against an upstart team (Patriots) against one of the best offensive teams in NFL history (Rams). Vinatieri, not Brady or Belichick, won that game for the Pats.
     
  7. Ziggy

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    OU used to spy on Texas all the time. Or was it vice versa? Or both? I am sure everyone spies on everyone. Or at least they try.
     
  8. moestavern19

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    Sure they have... by cheating, conspiring, having a back-stabbing evil genius of a coach, dirty cheating players like Roidney Harrison and winning the game that propelled them to their first title on a bull**** call that everyone knew should have been a fumble.


    **** the Patriots now and forever.
     
  9. Rowdie Brandon

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    lol......word up!
     
  10. rocketsinsider

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    Jesus christ the country is in fear of a recession, theres still a war going on in Iraq, Afganistan is starting to get out off hand, and he wants a hearing on a game from a sport??? :confused:

    tax dollars at work :rolleyes:
     
  11. moestavern19

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    NFL Football > State of America.

    deal with it.
     
  12. Rocket River

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    COMMENT: Well Duh??? once a cheater always cheaters

    besides
    the PATRIOTS winning is nothing more than political propaganda

    ie. the PATRIOT ACT . . if you look on Page 13 you would see that it
    just look for it

    PATRIOTS . . .PATRIOT ACT . . Coincidence???? I think not

    Patriots were GARBAGE before Bush for years
    now they finally get it right?????

    No No NO NO . .. . PATRIOT ACT I tell ya. . . PATRIOT ACT!!!!

    Rocket River
     
  13. percicles

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    Chowder propaganda that will only motivate the greatest team in NFL history into ass raping Ellie and the Lilliputians.
     
  14. Refman

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    Of course it had no effect. Being able to know what the other team is going to do on any given play will certainly not give you an advatage. :rolleyes:

    Just to be clear, if the Patriots had not cheated, they may not have been in position to have a game winning FG. The game could have been too far out of hand by then. Just because you cheat doesn't mean that you'll win by a large margin. It gives you the opportunity to be in a position to win a game that you ordinarily would have lost.
     
  15. Nelly

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    Amen, brotha, amen.
     
  16. leroy

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    So much jealousy.
     
  17. KingCheetah

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    Kurt Warner wants answers...
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    Ex-Ram Warner wants NFL to expand probe of Patriots

    Looking back, quarterback Kurt Warner says Super Bowl XXXVI in New Orleans is a blur. The underdog New England Patriots simply outschemed Warner's St. Louis Rams, parading out six and at times seven defensive backs and roughing up the Rams' sleek receivers to slow down an offense then dubbed "The Greatest Show on Turf." St. Louis, Warner says, just got beat. The final score read 20-17. That result can't be changed.

    But for peace of mind, the two-time MVP wants the league to investigate reports that the Patriots might have benefited from a videotape of the Rams' final practice before that Super Bowl six years ago.

    In the latest flurry of news surrounding the Patriots' videotaping activities, a report in Saturday's Boston Herald indicated that a member of the Patriots' video staff might have filmed the Rams' final walk-through in the Superdome the day before the game. The story cited a lone source, described as someone close to the New England team that season.
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    Reached late Saturday afternoon, Mike Martz, now the offensive coordinator for the San Francisco 49ers but the head coach for the Rams in that Super Bowl, told ESPN.com: "I hope that is not true. I have great respect for Bill Belichick. It's hard to believe that is true. It's a serious allegation and I hope it is not true.

    "Obviously, if there is enough substance to it, the league should look into it.''

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  18. rezdawg

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    lol @ everyone that thinks it would really have any effect.

    As if the Rams were going to run plays regardless of what the Patriots were showing on the field.
     
  19. moestavern19

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    Yeah, just like it had no effect when Jon Gruden knew exactly what the Raiders were going to do in the Super Bowl a few years back.


    The football ignorance in this thread is hilarious.
     
  20. MadMax

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    It was a tape of a walk-through. I'm guessing if someone set their VCR to record every Rams game it would have equal or greater value to this. Teams study actual game tape over and over and over again. I can't imagine how this tape of a walk-through could be so valuable.

    Unless the Rams are scripting plays throughout the entire game, and this walk-through gave away the script, I don't get it.
     

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