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Songs from the 80s and today's Middle East Turmoil

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  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    Yes,
    there is a colleration.

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    Rock the Casbah
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    "Rock the Casbah"
    Single cover
    Single by The Clash
    from the album Combat Rock
    Released June 11, 1982 (U.K.)
    Format 7" single, Cassette tape
    Recorded 1982
    Genre Rock
    Length 3:43
    Label CBS Records
    Producer The Clash
    Chart positions

    * #30 (UK)

    * #8 (U.S.A.)


    "Rock the Casbah", one of the most popular songs by The Clash, was released on their 1982 album Combat Rock. It is one of their few songs to become a Top 10 hit in the United States, reaching #8 on the Billboard Hot 100.

    The song was inspired by the banning of rock music in Iran under Ayatollah Khomeini. The song gives a fictitious account of the ban being defied by the population who proceed to "rock the casbah", causing the King to order jet fighters to bomb any people in violation of the ban. The pilots ignore the orders, and instead play rock music on their cockpit radios. The song does not mention Iran, nor does it give the specifics of any Islamic nation, and in fact it uses Arabic terms instead of Persian, mentioning casbah, sharif, bedouin, and sheikh. This is typical of the Clash, who often mix up some of the particulars in political songs. This is also shown in the line 'He (he being the fictional Muslim king) thinks it's not kosher'. Kosher is a Jewish term and is unlikely to be used by an Islamic king. However given the song's light-heartedness this doesn't matter too much. It is one of the more light-hearted songs by the Clash, particularly as they were well-established as a political band. Political undertones are often read into the song.

    The track also makes references to the cordoned off Arab areas of European colonial holdings. The example most used is that of the Casbah in Algiers during the time that France occupied Algeria. Rock the Casbah has been said to be a reference to the anti-imperialist movements in colonial nations as well as the banning of music in Persian and Arab nations.

    "Rock the Casbah" originated when the band's manager, after hearing them record an inordinately long track for the album, asked them facetiously "does everything have to be as long as this raga?" (referring to the Indian musical style known for its length and , at least to rock audiences, complexity). Joe Strummer later wrote the opening lines to the song: "The King told the boogie-men 'you have to let that raga drop'". The rest of the lyrics soon followed.

    The song is one of the few in which drummer Topper Headon played a substantial role in the writing of the music beyond the percussion tracks. The instrumental opening was a tune he had written on the piano some time earlier, and had toyed with during rehearsals before being incorporated into the song. In the 2002 Documentary Westway to the World Headon describes that he played drums, bass (normally played by Paul Simonon, who was earlier featured smashing his bass on the iconic album cover of seminal 1979 album 'London Calling'), and piano on the record. Headon claims that, while he thought he was merely playing the song for the rest of the band, his performances were, unbeknownst to him, recorded.

    The Clash made low-budget music videos for several of their songs, and the one for "Rock the Casbah" may be their most memorable. It depicts an Arab and a Hasidic Jew dancing together through the streets, often followed by an armadillo, interspersed with the band performing in front of an oil well. The humorous tone of the video fits the song, although it is easy to read the antics of the Arab and Jew as a desire for better relations between Israelis and Arabs. Many Muslims objected to the Arab man displaying a liquor bottle, as alcohol is forbidden in Islam. The video also features their first drummer Terry Chimes, because at the time of its release Headon was out of the band, due to his growing drug addiction.

    It has been reported that "Rock the Casbah" was an unofficial anthem for the American army during the first Gulf War (the line about dropping "bombs between the minarets" being particularly relevant). This has been seen as highly ironic, if not downright insulting, by many Clash fans, given the band's well established left-wing politics and anti-war stance, yet as appropriate by some, as the song is an attack on hypocritical Arab leaders who ban Western influences for their subjects, but are happy to reap the benefits of such influences for themselves. In 2006, the conservative National Review released their list of the top 50 "conservative rock songs", with "Rock the Casbah" at #20[1], noting its frequent requests during the Iraq War, but without citing conservative themes in the lyrics.

    Despite, or perhaps because of, its popularity with soldiers during the Gulf War, "Rock the Casbah" was one of the songs deemed inappropriate by Clear Channel Communications following the September 11, 2001 attacks.

    Other versions of "Rock the Casbah" have been recorded by the Australian band Something for Kate, the Algerian rock singer Rachid Taha, in Arabic, on his 2004 album Tékitoi, as well as the band Trust Company, on the 2005 album "True Parallels". Also, the techno group Solar Twins released an electronica remix in 1999. Will Smith's song "Will 2K" of the Willennium album of 1999 samples "Rock The Casbah" both instrumentally and in some of the lyrics.

    Self-confessed The Clash fans Green Day have also been known to cover this particular track on tour on a few occasions.[citation needed]
     
  2. AntiSonic

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    What's the deal with that cellphone going off midway through the song?
     
  3. tinman

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    Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnny Ray
    South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio

    Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, Television
    North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe

    Rosenbergs, H Bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
    Brando, The King And I, and The Catcher In The Rye

    Eisenhower, Vaccine, England's got a new queen
    Maciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye

    We didn't start the fire
    It was always burning
    Since the world's been turning
    We didn't start the fire
    No we didn't light it
    But we tried to fight it

    Joseph Stalin, Malenkov, Nasser and Prokofiev
    Rockefeller, Campanella, Communist Bloc

    Roy Cohn, Juan Peron, Toscanini, Dancron
    Dien Bien Phu Falls, Rock Around the Clock

    Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn's got a winning team
    Davy Crockett, Peter Pan, Elvis Presley, Disneyland

    Bardot, Budapest, Alabama, Khrushchev
    Princess Grace, Peyton Place, Trouble in the Suez

    We didn't start the fire
    It was always burning
    Since the world's been turning
    We didn't start the fire
    No we didn't light it
    But we tried to fight it

    Little Rock, Pasternak, Mickey Mantle, Kerouac
    Sputnik, Chou En-Lai, Bridge On The River Kwai

    Lebanon, Charles de Gaulle, California baseball
    Starkwether, Homicide, Children of Thalidomide

    Buddy Holly, Ben Hur, Space Monkey, Mafia
    Hula Hoops, Castro, Edsel is a no-go

    U2, Syngman Rhee, payola and Kennedy
    Chubby Checker, Psycho, Belgians in the Congo

    We didn't start the fire
    It was always burning
    Since the world's been turning
    We didn't start the fire
    No we didn't light it
    But we tried to fight it

    Hemingway, Eichman, Stranger in a Strange Land
    Dylan, Berlin, Bay of Pigs invasion

    Lawrence of Arabia, British Beatlemania
    Ole Miss, John Glenn, Liston beats Patterson

    Pope Paul, Malcolm X, British Politician sex
    J.F.K. blown away, what else do I have to say

    We didn't start the fire
    It was always burning
    Since the world's been turning
    We didn't start the fire
    No we didn't light it
    But we tried to fight it

    Birth control, Ho Chi Minh, Richard Nixon back again
    Moonshot, Woodstock, Watergate, punk rock

    Begin, Reagan, Palestine, Terror on the airline
    Ayatollah's in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan

    Wheel of Fortune, Sally Ride, heavy metal, suicide
    Foreign debts, homeless Vets, AIDS, Crack, Bernie Goetz

    Hypodermics on the shores, China's under martial law
    Rock and Roller cola wars, I can't take it anymore

    We didn't start the fire
    It was always burning since the world's been turning.
    We didn't start the fire
    But when we are gone
    It will still burn on, and on, and on, and on...

    We didn't start the fire
    It was always burning
    Since the world's been turning
    We didn't start the fire
    No we didn't light it
    But we tried to fight it

    We didn't start the fire
    It was always burning
    Since the world's been turning
    We didn't start the fire
    No we didn't light it
    But we tried to fight it

    We didn't start the fire
    It was always burning
    Since the world's been turning
    We didn't start the fire...
     
  4. jo mama

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    killing an arab - the cure

    Standing on the beach
    With a gun in my hand
    Staring at the sky
    Staring at the sand
    Staring down the barrel
    At the arab on the ground
    See his open mouth
    But I hear no sound

    I'm alive
    I'm dead
    I'm a stranger
    Killing an arab

    I can turn
    And walk away
    Or I can fire the gun
    Staring at the sky
    Staring at the sun
    Whichever I choose
    It amounts to the same
    Absolutely nothing

    I'm alive
    I'm dead
    I'm a stranger
    Killing an arab

    I feel the silver jump
    Smooth in my hand
    Staring at the sea
    Staring at the sand
    Staring at myself
    Reflected in the eyes
    Of the dead man on the beach
    The dead man on the beach

    I'm alive
    I'm dead
    I'm the stranger
    Killing an arab
     
  5. MR. MEOWGI

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    I always thought it was Coleco Football.

    BTW, The Clash rules.
     
  6. Saint Louis

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    It was the football game. I don't think cellphones where as much into the cultural as a handheld video game at the time. I played football and basketball until my thumbs hurt and I was seeing little red blips in my dreams.
     
  7. mc mark

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    Whoever we are
    Wherever we're from
    We shoulda noticed by now
    Our behavior is dumb
    And if our chances
    Expect to improve
    It's gonna take a lot more
    Than tryin' to remove
    The other race
    Or the other whatever
    From the face
    Of the planet altogether

    They call it THE EARTH
    Which is a dumb kinda name
    But they named it right
    'Cause we behave the same...
    *We are dumb all over*
    Dumb all over,
    Yes we are
    Dumb all over,
    Near 'n far
    Dumb all over,
    Black 'n white
    People, we is not wrapped tight

    Nurds on the left
    Nurds on the right
    Religous fanatics
    On the air every night
    Sayin' the Bible
    Tells the story
    Makes the details
    Sound real gory
    'Bout what to do
    If the geeks over there
    Don't believe in the book
    We got over here

    You can't run a race
    Without no feet
    'N pretty soon
    There won't be no street
    For dummies to jog on
    Or doggies to dog on
    Religous fanatics
    Can make it be all gone
    (I mean it won't blow up
    'N disappear
    It'll just look ugly
    For a thousand years...)

    You can't run a country
    By a book of religion
    Not by a heap
    Or a lump or a smidgeon
    Of foolish rules
    Of ancient date
    Designed to make
    You all feel great
    While you fold, spindle
    And mutilate
    Those unbelievers
    From a neighboring state


    TO ARMS! TO ARMS!
    Hooray! That's great
    Two legs ain't bad
    Unless there's a crate
    They ship the parts
    To mama in
    For souvenirs: two ears *(Get Down!)*
    Not his, not hers, *(but what the hey?)*
    The Good Book says:
    *("It gotta be that way!")*
    But their book says:
    *"REVENGE THE CRUSADES...
    With whips 'n chains
    'N hand grenades..."*
    TWO ARMS? TWO ARMS?
    Have another and another
    Our God says:
    *"There ain't no other!"*
    Our God says
    *"It's all okay!"*
    Our God says
    *"This is the way!"*

    It says in the book:
    *"Burn 'n destroy...*
    *'N repent, 'n redeem*
    *'N revenge, 'n deploy*
    *'N rumble thee forth*
    *To the land of the unbelieving scum on
    the other side*
    *'Cause they don't go for what's in the
    book*
    *'N that makes 'em BAD*
    *So verily we must choppeth them up*
    *And stompeth them down*
    *Or rent a nice French bomb*
    *To poof them out of existance
    *While leaving their real estate just where
    we need it*
    *To use again*
    *For temples in which to praise
    OUR GOD*
    *("Cause he can really take care of
    business!")*

    And when his humble TV servant
    With humble white hair
    And humble glasses
    And a nice brown suit
    And maybe a blond wife who takes
    phone calls
    Tells us our God says
    It's okay to do this stuff
    Then we gotta do it,
    'Cause if we don't do it,
    We ain't gwine up to *hebbin!*
    (Depending on which book you're using
    at the time...Can't use theirs... it don't work
    ...it's all lies...Gotta use mine...)
    Ain't that right?
    That's what they say
    Every night...
    Every day...
    Hey, we can't really be dumb
    If we're just following *God's Orders*
    Hey, let's get serious...
    God knows what he's doin'
    He wrote this book here
    An' the book says:
    *He made us all to be just like Him,"
    so...
    If we're dumb...
    Then God is dumb...
    *(An' maybe even a little ugly on the side)*

    Frank Zappa
    From the album You are what you is, 1981
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    To me this one takes the cake. It is hard to believe that it is 20 years old. It seems almost more topical today.

    From the Talking Heads:

    -------------------
    Listening Wind
    -------------------

    Mojique sees his village from a nearby hill
    Mojique thinks of days before Americans came
    He sees the foreigners in growing numbers
    He sees the foreigners in fancy houses
    He thinks of days that he can still remember...now.

    Mojique holds a package in his quivering hands
    Mojique sends the package to the American man
    Softly he glides along the streets and alleys
    Up comes the wind that makes them run for cover
    He feels the time is surely now or never...more.

    The wind in my heart
    The wind in my heart
    The dust in my head
    The dust in my head
    The wind in my heart
    The wind in my heart
    (Come to) Drive them away
    Drive them away.u
    Mojique buys equipment in the market place
    Mojique plants devices in the free trade zone
    He feels the wind is lifting up his people
    He calls the wind to guide him on his mission
    He knows his friend the wind is always standing...by.

    Mojique smells the wind that comes from far away
    Mojique waits for news in a quiet place
    He feels the presence of the wind around him
    He feels the power of the past behind him
    He has the knowledge of the wind to guide him...on.

    The wind in my heart
    The wind in my heart
    The dust in my head
    The dust in my head
    The wind in my heart
    The wind in my heart
    (Come to) Drive them away
    Drive them away.
     
  9. RocketMan Tex

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    The video for "Rock The Casbah" was filmed in and around Austin. The marquee for their 1981 gig at Municipal Auditorium in Austin is visible, and the live shots of the band at the end of the video were filmed at that show. I did not attend that show and regret it to this day, because it was only chance I ever really had to see the Clash.
     
  10. mc mark

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    The Talking Heads had several good ones. "Life During Wartime" is another.
     
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    Eve Of Destruction
    By Barry McGuire, 1965


    The eastern world it tis explodin',
    violence flarin', bullets loadin',
    you're old enough to kill but not for votin',
    you don't believe in war, what's that gun you're totin',
    and even the Jordan river has bodies floatin',
    but you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
    ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

    Don't you understand, what I'm trying to say?
    Can't you see the fear that I'm feeling today?
    If the button is pushed, there's no running away,
    There'll be noone to save with the world in a grave,
    take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy,
    but you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
    ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

    Yeah, my blood's so mad, feels like coagulatin',
    I'm sittin' here, just contemplatin',
    I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation,
    handful of Senators don't pass legislation,
    and marches alone can't bring integration,
    when human respect is disintegratin',
    this whole crazy world is just too frustratin',
    and you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
    ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

    Think of all the hate there is in Red China!
    Tehn take a look around to Selma, Alabama!
    Ah, you may leave here, for four days in space,
    but when your eturn, it's the same old place,
    the poundin' of the drums, th pride and disgrace,
    you can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace,
    hate your next-door-neighbour, but don't forget to say grace,
    and you tell me over and over and over and over again my friend,
    ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction
     
  12. MR. MEOWGI

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    She dashed by me in painted on jeans
    And all heads turned 'cause she was the dream
    In the blink of an eye I knew her number and her name yeah
    Ah she said I was the tiger she wanted to tame

    CHORUS:
    Caribbean queen
    Now we're sharing the same dream
    And our hearts they beat as one
    No more love on the run

    I lose my cool when she steps in the room
    And I get so excited just from her perfume
    Electric eyes that you can't ignore
    And passion burns you like never before

    I was in search of a good time
    Just running my game
    Love was the furthest
    Furthest from my mind
     
  13. Rocket River

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    Who was the bald head Aussie

    How do we sleep when our beds are burning . . ..

    Jesus Jones
    Right HEre Right Now

    [were those the early 90s?]

    Rocket River
     
  14. OldManBernie

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    Midnight Oil
     
  15. mc mark

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    Born down in a dead man's town
    The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
    You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
    Till you spend half your life just covering up

    Born in the U.S.A.
    I was born in the U.S.A.
    I was born in the U.S.A.
    Born in the U.S.A.

    Got in a little hometown jam
    So they put a rifle in my hand
    Sent me off to a foreign land
    To go and kill the yellow man

    Born in the U.S.A.
    I was born in the U.S.A.
    I was born in the U.S.A.
    I was born in the U.S.A.
    Born in the U.S.A.

    Come back home to the refinery
    Hiring man says "Son if it was up to me"
    Went down to see my V.A. man
    He said "Son, don't you understand"

    I had a brother at Khe Sanh fighting off the Viet Cong
    They're still there, he's all gone

    He had a woman he loved in Saigon
    I got a picture of him in her arms now

    Down in the shadow of the penitentiary
    Out by the gas fires of the refinery
    I'm ten years burning down the road
    Nowhere to run ain't got nowhere to go

    Born in the U.S.A.
    I was born in the U.S.A.
    Born in the U.S.A.
    I'm a long gone Daddy in the U.S.A.
    Born in the U.S.A.
    Born in the U.S.A.
    Born in the U.S.A.
    I'm a cool rocking Daddy in the U.S.A.

    Bruce Springsteen
    released: June 4, 1984
     
  16. gifford1967

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    I've posted these here before. This song by The The is incredible.



    Armageddon Days Are Here (Again)

    They're 5 miles high as the crow flies
    leavin' vapour trails against a blood red sky
    Movin' in from the East toward the West
    with Balaclava helmets over their heads, yes!

    But if you think that Jesus Christ is coming
    Honey you've got another thing coming
    If he ever finds out who's hi-jacked his name
    He'll cut out his heart and turn in his grave

    Islam is rising
    The Christians mobilising
    The world is on its elbows and knees
    It's forgotten the message and worships the creeds

    It's war, she cried, It's war, she cried, this is war
    Drop your possessions, all you simple folk
    You will fight them on the beaches in your underclothes
    You will thank the good lord for raising the union jack
    You'll watch the ships sail out of harbour
    and the bodies come floating back

    If the real Jesus Christ were to stand up today
    He'd be gunned down cold by the C.I.A.
    Oh, the lights that now burn brightest behind stained glass
    Will cast the darkest shadows upon the human heart
    But God didn't build himself that throne
    God doesn't live in Israel or Rome
    God doesn’t belong to the yankee dollar
    God doesn't plant the bombs for Hezbollah
    God doesn't even go to church
    And God won't send us down to Allah to burn
    No, God will remind us what we already know
    That the human race is about to reap what it's sown

    The world is on its elbows and knees
    It's forgotten the message and worships the creeds
    Armageddon days are here again
     
  17. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    if the going gets tough..
    the tough get going
     

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