Some open questions and some silly trade ideas :-)

How about:

PG - Francis (38), Norris (10)
SG - Mobley (40), Anderson (8)
SF - Griffin (30), Morris (9), Williams (9)
PF - Taylor (35), Griffin (10), Bullard (3)
C - Olajuwon (16), Cato (16), Collier (16)

IR - Colson, Langhi

Release Rogers

Cat 25, Francis 18, Taylor 15, Griffin 12, Olajuwon 10, Cato 8, Collier 6, Morris+Williams+Norris+Anderson+Bullard 12
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How much have you watched the Rockets the last two years? There is no way Moochie will get under 15-20 minutes per game, and Steve is our backup two guard. Here's about the way I'd expect minutes to be distributed:

PG-- Francis (28), Norris (20)
SG-- Mobley (36), Francis (12)
SF-- Griffin (24), Morris (14), Mobley (4), Everyone else (6)
PF-- Taylor (25), Thomas (16), Griffin (7)
C-- Dream (24), Cato (10), Collier (10), Mo/KT/Griffin (4)

Whoever else is on the roster I wouldn't expect to play but sparingly throughout the season.

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[This message has been edited by The Cat (edited June 30, 2001).]

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The Cat,
Thanks for mentioning KT in your projection. I'd love to see him around. I think he'll develop into one of those unsung heros that comes out and does all the dirty work...

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I don't know about minute distrabution but here is some possible line-ups

The one I really want to see aka The High Flyin, sweet stroken, run your ass into the ground group:
Francis
Mobley
Langhi
Morris
Griffin

One we all know we will see:
Moochie
Francis
Mobley
Griffin
Taylor

The one that will start the games:
Francis
Mobley
Griffin
Taylor
Dream

The Bench:
Mooch
Langhi
Morris
KT
Collier

And last but not least the 'Don't bring your ass in the paint unless you want your shot blocked' aka 'that damn rebound is mine'
group
Francis
Mobley
Morris
Griffin
Dream

I predict right now that we will see a lot of Eddie and TRock on the floor at the same time. It just makes sense with the extra rebounding and shot blocking that those two bring.


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"Now a scenario that I would like and that I think is realistic ."

"Trade Walt to Orlando for Bo Outlaw."

Det,

I can't see Orlando doing that deal. But, because they're trying to get Davis & need to reduce salary, I could see them accepting a deal of LOS for Outlaw. That would reduce their salary by about $2.7 mill.

Another option would be for them to send him to us for a future second round pick, which would reduce their cap by about $5 mill & we could then opt out of LOS's contract like we're planning on doing anyway.



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I like Bo but I just don't think there is a place for him in the line-up. I really believe Rudy has every intention of using KT and Eddie at the 4 when Mo is out of the game.

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toddie-We can't trade Los. We have a team option on him, and my guess is Orlando would rather have nothing than Los at 2.6 mill. I could see Orlando taking KT for Outlaw though.

I'd try and trade Walt and KT for Lafrentz, TAW, and either George McCloud or Calbert Cheaney. Denver would clear 5 mill this year, and be set up for a large amount of cap space next year when Walt expires, with their core Dice, Posey, and NVE still intact.

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I would love to have LaFrentz but do we really want TAW's contract hanging over our heads?


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I didn't want to start a new thread and this one seemed like the most appropriate one to post in...hopefully enough people will see it and respond.

Anyways, getting to my point; I was wondering if anyone else thinks that Rudy may still have interest in Etan Thomas? If I remember correctly, (all the way back to last draft) that when Rudy traded our #9 pick to get to #15, he was interested in taking Etan Thomas out of Syracuse w/ it but Dallas beat us to the punch. Since the Rockets do have depth charts on the players that they consider taking, and since Thomas was gone by our turn, Collier was probably next on the list (unless that rumor was true about Indiana wanting him and we were going to use him to get Croshere). If everyone remembers correctly, (if not, u can go into the clutchcity.net archives and look up Etan Thomas- http://www.clutchcity.net/draft_profile.cfm?Player=14 ) Thomas is big defensive presence w/a very limited offensive game. His stats in college were: G FG% FT% 3P% BPG SPG RPG APG PPG
96-97 Syracuse 25 .534 .465 .--- 1.9 0.4 4.2 0.4 5.7
97-98 Syracuse 35 .610 .612 .--- 3.9 0.8 6.6 0.4 11.3
98-99 Syracuse 33 .617 .574 .--- 4.0 0.8 7.4 0.5 12.3
99-00 Syracuse 29 .602 .678 .--- 3.7 0.8 9.3 0.6 13.6
Totals 122 .600 .598 .--- 3.5 0.7 6.9 0.4 11.0

If we needed to get rid of Kenny Thomas to add another player to the team, say LaFrentz (sorry, couldn't resist ), Etan would be a nice alternative. Kenny is faster and has much better offensive game but w/ the possible re-signing of MO-T and the aquisition of Eddie Griffin and Terrence Morris, and if we were able to acquire LaFrentz or even a Marc Jackson, Kenny's touches may be limited even more, therefore making his nice offensive skills a little misused. Mo-T isn't know for his defensive prowess either so if Mo-T's man is working him over, Etan could come in and hopefully make a difference on the Def end. Etan could also possibly play the center. He's listed at 6'9 but I remember last year on a radio interview, I believe it was CD, said that he was a legit 6'10.

I don't know if I've interested anyone yet...Anyways, he's stuck in Washington. Etan apparntly had an injury last year, but I'm sure b/c him being a rookie and too much depth on Dallas and Washington kept him from getting to play at all. With Washington recently acquiring Kwame Brown, and with Jahidi White, Loy Vaught, Michael Smith and Christian Laettner (free agent), we might be able to pull off something to acquire Etan from Jordan. Everyone knows of the rumors that Webber may come to Washington if Jordan returns. Barkley, another PF could also come in, making Thomas' roster spot a waste. Also, there are a lot of prime free agents next year, including tar-heel(Jordan's alma mater) players Vince Carter and Antawn Jamison. And since Walt's contract ends next year, Jordan may want to clear some cap room and take on Walt/ Kenny or both to try and acquire Carter or Jamison.

I don't know, it's just a possibility. Like Doc-Rocket said, we don't need the superstars. We, hopefully now, have all the stars we'll need, now it's just time to round out the roster w/ role playing chemistry guys. Kenny and Walt have talents to offer us, but I think we can better suit this team if we were to go out and get talents that we are lacking. Rudy said it himself, we need outside shooting, interior defense, shot blocking and rebounding. Etan does the defense, shot blocking and rebounding for us. Thomas is also another one of those east coast guys we seem to be collecting so that may work out to our benefit too.

If there are other players who might fit better, please post them. I love to dreamcast as much as everyone else, but when I do it, I try to do it as realistic as possible and I think us getting Thomas who we have expressed interest in b/f could happen.

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[This message has been edited by rocketteen (edited June 30, 2001).]

 

That was a lot to think about.

1) Steve Francis can sign a contract extension today if he wants to. He has said he would gladly sign a lifetime contract with the Rockets if he could. Don't worry about him. We'll have The Franchise for years to come.

2) The Magic are not as desperate for cap space as everyone seems to think. True, they are offering some nice players to claer some space, but they can get Davis without any help if that's what they want to do. Walt and Carlos will be gone, but not to Orlando. Think skiing.

3) Shandon does want too much and I don't expect him back. If Morris can play the 2, as so many think he can, when would Shandon play? We certainly have the 3 secure with Griffin, Langhi and Bullard. Cuttino and Morris at the 2, with Steve playing there a lot, too. Shandon wants 4-5 million, and he can get it . . .somewhere else. I don't like his whole "I'll play very aggressively NEXT year." Yeah, right. Show me something, then I'll pay you.

4) Langhi's staying. Rudy really likes his potential and you can expect to see more of Dan on the court next season. You know Rudy doesn't play rookies (unless they're Francis/Griffin types). Langhi had to earn his PT and he'll get it this year.

5) Don't kid yourself. Moochie's going nowhere. He'll get plenty of $$, but realize he is a PG. There are 20 more of them in the CBA itching for a shot at the pros. Moochie knows where he came from and he likes playing with his 2 best friends in Houston.

6) Ahhh - you've touched on it here. Cato is no longer likely to be a Bull, as we don't need Croshere, but I have heard it said that LaFrentz in available for the right price. I could see us sedning them Cato in a package for LaFrentz and a package, though it's tricky dealing with Cato's BYC.

7) Hakeem - sadly I feel he is gone. He wants a lot more money than I can imagine anyone paying him and we need to move on if that's the way he wants it. If he would stay for 4-5 million, keep him. That's not his current asking price, though.


8) Bullard - done deal. He stays forever!

TRG

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1) Steve Francis can sign a contract extension today if he wants to. He has said he would gladly sign a lifetime contract with the Rockets if he could. Don't worry about him. We'll have The Franchise for years to come.

I don't think this is true -- I was under the impression you couldn't renegotiate contracts in the NBA. I think we have to wait until either the last year or even past that. Who's the last free agent you remember being extended in mid-contract?

You know Rudy doesn't play rookies (unless they're Francis/Griffin types). Langhi had to earn his PT and he'll get it this year.

Or unless they are Horry, Cassell, Dickerson, Mobley, Drew, Rhodes, Collier, Thomas, etc...

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Good point but Drew had more splinters in his ass from sittin the bench his rookie year than Langhi did in his.

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Is anyone gonna comment on this, cause I'd sure like to know too...WHat are the exact specifications about when a person can re-negotiate? I know in the NFL you can only do it on days ending in 'y',but I'm not sure about the NBA, I think SHanna(!?!?) is right, isn't it only at specific windows?

P.S. Shanna, have you ever given any serious thought to the concept that cramming a bunch of screaming hairy primates into a barrel has inexplicably gotten such good press? I mean, does the barrel even have airholes? It's like "Selling like hotcakes"...When was the last time anyone saw a mad rush on hotcakes? Things like that get to me, or at least they do when I skip my medication...



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Hey Nike,

If we pick up LOS's option, then why couldn't we trade him? I think the CBA prevents us from trading him before we pick it up, but what about afterwards? At that point he should be in the same position as Walt. Can you or someone else clarify this point for me?

I, also would rather have LaFrentz, but he's probably going to cost too much (That comment was for Nugzfan. ).

By the way, I didn't know that Walt was going to expire. Does he have some kind of incurable disease or something?




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It wouldn't be "renegotiating", it would be extending it, or signing the next contract. It's exactly what they did with Cato, he was under contract when they signed him to the "pact with the devil" he's under now.
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We must have Francis forever. He is a big part of the team. If we add another great player we are set. This player is WEBBER!

I hope he comes

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