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So, why can't Josh Smith play the 3 in our system?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by basketballholic, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. basketballholic

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    Tell me why he can't do it. He just shot 38% from 3 in the playoffs. He was selective, moved around, created, and knocked down 3's. Who is it that he couldn't defend at the 3?

    I know this experiment failed in Detroit but they weren't encouraging him to park it outside and shoot the 3. They were really trying to discourage him from taking jump shots at all. And that's where the fail came from.

    IF Smith continues to work on his 3-ball all this summer, why can't he play the 3 for us?
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    And let's play DMo at center while we're at it.
     
  3. oogie boogie

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    He won't necessarily space the floor. Defenders don't respect his shot. It will make things more difficult for Harden.
     
  4. rocketsballin

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    he can but we didnt do it in the playoffs cuz of injuries. he should be willing to sign for cheap or even vet min. he'll be seeing time at sf next season if he stays here. all assuming his shot doesnt go to sht like garcia's did out of the blue
     
  5. justtxyank

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    All free throw shooting team:
    Rondo
    ?
    Smith
    Terrence Jones
    Howard

    Trade Harden for Iggy and play him at the 2!
     
  6. basketballholic

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    Ok, I get that they don't respect his shot.

    But times they are a chang'n. They didn't respect his shot in the playoffs and he burned them with it. 38% man. Playoffs. That's very nice in a pressurized environment.

    Now, I realize, small sample size, handful of games, not enough attempts, etc. But what I'm trying to say is the situation is different here. He HAS to shoot the 3 here to be viable. It's not a question of should he shoot the 3. The question is WILL HE SHOOT THE 3 and SHOOT IT AN EFFICIENT RATE??

    Because we're gonna shoot the 3. And if guys are gonna pull their mits down and dribble around like Mr. _ones does, they won't stay on the team. You gotta pull it baby if you're gonna stay long-term with us.

    So with that in mind, we all know Smith is burning up the nets all summer.....right? You do know he's throwing up 3's and free throws all summer.....don't you?

    So, with that mindset that you have to shoot the 3, and with him working on the 3-ball all summer (hopefully with the same crew that worked with EGO and others), then why would he not be able to play 3 and play it very well for us? He's a sick defender. I don't see many if any 3's that he's not going to water down their production quite seriously.

    Tell me why he can't play the 3 for us if he gets is shot down consistently?
     
  7. JayZ750

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    No... no, no, no

    Even in the playoffs, it was 38% on crazy volatility.

    He shot the 3 well in 5 games, out of 17. And he was AMAZING in those 5 games... 16 of 25, 64%.

    In the other 12 he, was 11 for 46, 23%.

    I get that everyone has hot games, and bad games, but he's just too volatile. Add the fact that he is a sub-par ballhandler for the 3.

    Josh's strengths is his SF like capabilities while playing PF. His PF like capabilities while playing SF do not excite me.
     
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    In the spectrum of bad ideas, Josh Smith at SF is up there with the greatest of terrible ideas.
     
  9. Ziggy

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    First off, what does shooting a good % from the 3 have to do with playing SF? 2nd, we're always hearing about improving FT% or 3PT%... he's been in the league 10 years, nothing is changing. Players don't magically shoot better after 10 years. 3rd, Ariza is a better player than Smith.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Seriously? The guy is a grade A moron, we are already an undisciplined team, and you want to add him?

    Not no, but HELL ****ING NO!

    DD
     
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    I think we should have tried it in the playoffs. But in all honesty, I think you answer your own question (Tell me why he can't play the 3 for us if he gets is shot down consistently?).

    keyword: consistently
     
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    You're not dreaming your wishes are a reality, Josh Smith is already on the team, he's not talking J.R.
     
  13. Ns575

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    Lol go look up his averages in detroit you'll see why
     
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    Rondo
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    His advantage comes from being quicker than other 4's. He can face up and attack them. If they are sagging, he can hit the 3.

    An SF guarding him is more likely to play him up close and take away the 3pt shot while being quick enough to stop his drives.

    Also, when he brings the ball up as a 4 he is a tough matchup.

    Furthermore, he's a much better post defender than he is a perimeter defender. You don't want him running around chasing 3's.

    Finally, he's a great passer as a 4 from just outside the paint.
     
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    jopat you forgot to log into your 'what' account.
     
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    That mental disorder doe
     
  19. basketballholic

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    Yookay. Get it. So take him into the blocks.





    Yes, but if we draft a point guard all that bringing the ball up stuff is going to be minimized. Besides, why can't he bring the ball against SFs? How many SFs in this league are gonna attack his dribble bringing the ball up?

    What 3's are you talking about here? Lebron???? You wanna go small on Lebron?

    What difference does who he defends have to do with where he passes the ball from? It's 2 different ends of the floor. You don't think he can get to the elbows if a smaller player is defending him? So, let's say he can't get to the elbow to shoot passes. What prevents him from dropping into the blocks and posting up smalls?



    >>>>Some of you are approaching this as if 38% from 3 during the playoffs was a fluke. I readily understand that with Smith's history. But, what if he comes back next season and is banging them down again?? How long can we go and still call it a fluke?

    There was no one more disgusted by Smith's shooting early than I was. After the first week I was ready to can the guy. But...he did work his way into our system. And He is extremely gifted. And.....he did pull that 3-ball for us when we needed it. Sure, it was streaky. But he did hit 38%.

    I'm saying what if he comes back next year really prepared to shoot the 3's? He did shoot 33% in 2011 and he did shoot 33% for us during the regular season. Now, he's working on the 3-ball because we told him to shoot it and not shoot those stupid 20-footers.

    I'm saying if he comes back shooting the 3 well, why can't he defend 3's?? Lebron?? What better matchups do we have against Lebron defensively than Smith?? Durant?? Durant shook us on a 4/6 season. Ariza didn't help us any there. Do you really think Ariza has a defensive advantage over SMoove when defending those guys? Oh, I know we can sort through the matchups and find some player that would burn Smith. But we can do that with any player in the league......even including Lebron now.
     
  20. YallMean

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    Sounds like a terrible idea. His handle, quickness, feel for the position ... he will be able to hold on his own on the defensive end, and will not be efficient on the offensive end.

    No.
     

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