So who still believes that Rudy wasn't forced out?

I really don't think this matters anymore...it's irrelevant to the future of this franchise.

 

Rudy agreed to leave but Les is nice and let him keep the money.

Don't want another Calvin Murphy fiasco.

 

Good points, but I'm still not sure either way. If Rudy was forced out, don't you think we would have heard from people that have been loyal to him over the years, ie. CD, assistants now with other teams, or people outside the organization with nothing to lose?

I'm pretty sure he was forced out, but I still wonder why no one (including Rudy) has come out and said as much.

 

BGM,

Maybe Jeff or Clutch can step in and clarify this, but was Rudy fully bought out??? Or partially bought it with a portion of his contract left intact to cover Rudy's services as a consultant??

If it was a buyout, I would say that something is definitely fishy. However, if his contract was just partially bought out/restructered to more closely fit his duties as a consultant, then everything might be on the up and up.

 

Does it change the outcome? If it doesn't, then it's pointless.

 

Ok, so we replace Rudy T. because he wasn't getting the most out of our players.

So then, because we got rid of Rudy T. and had to pay him off, we can't hire a premier coach.

So we canned Rudy T. for a 2nd tier alternative.

Im glad they thought this through clearly.

 

Who knows? We can only speculate.

 

Exactly.

 

Hasn't this already been beaten to death?

 

It doesn't change the outcome, but it does color my personal perception of the owner. That may not be worth much, but if enough people feel the same, it will be reflected in Les' pocketbook.

 

Nothing posted on here changes any outcome. Therefore you could say it's all pointless. Some people would rather root for a classy organization. I'm one of them.

 

No. It hasn't. Not when people continue to say Rudy stepped down willingly. If Rudy left Les in the lurch and that's contributed to the problems he's having finding a replacement, fine. If not, Les screwed up. The answer is Les screwed up. The evidence is:

You don't buy out a guy when he retires, no matter how nice you might be.

Rudy's been saying all along he couldn't wait to get back. Suddenly he has a change of heart and gets bought out.

That really should be enough and you have to be every kind of naive to believe word for word the stuff Rudy, the consummate company man, said in his press conference. But here's one more anecdote which you can believe or not:

Minutes before Rudy's press conference a guy called in to 610 and identified himself as a close family friend of the Tomjanovich's named Cary. He said he'd known about what was going down for a couple days but hadn't been able to talk about it. He was extremely upset and said he knew Rudy wouldn't appreciate him sharing this, but he was just really upset and was gonna do it anyway. He said, no matter what you hear, this was NOT a mutual decision. Rudy was pushed and he didn't want to go. He said he was so upset because of the way it was handled and that, though he knew Rudy would say the right things, he wanted Rockets fans to know the truth. You don't have to believe this guy. I did and it was clear that the hosts did too. And I repeat, if it isn't true, why the buyout?

All that said, if Les had pushed Rudy and replaced him with Brown and that had resulted in more wins, okay. It is a business. But if he pushed out a guy who's been here for, what, 33 years while he's fighting cancer and then had the nerve to say he'd wanted him to stay, and THEN fouls up the search so as to wind up with a lesser or equal coach, well... No. This has not been beaten to death. Not by a long shot.

 

Rudy was definitely forced out.

 

I'd rather root for a team coached by a guy who has seemed like he has a clue of setting up an NBA offense the last six seasons. Ask Dallas Cowboy fans who complained when Jerry axed Landry if they would rather root for a classy team after the Cowboys won three superbowls under the Jones regime. Gimme a break, Rudy was classy, but he hasn't been a winner in a while. If you want classy should become an avid follower of classical music. I just want wins. But to each his own.

 

the only thing beaten to death has been my 20-year love affair with the Houston Rockets.

you couldn't be more wrong about this.

it matters, and the outcome is changed, because the Houston Rockets are stuck with a complete ********** as owner.

smoke my pole, Judas A!

it's unfortunate and all if the facts are inconsistent with your desire to continue to see Judas as a real swell guy in all this.

it is highly amusing, though, to see everyone with their panties in a twist over the new coaching circumstances after listening to everyone b**** the whole damned year about Rudy this and Rudy that.

screw Judas, and screw Jeff Van Gundy.