so...is this the pure pg steve some of you want???

some people on this bbs keep crying over wanting a pure pg that looks pass first, shoot second. well, i think what you've seen over the past few games from steve francis is exactly what you've asked for.

SO HOW DOES IT FEEL? ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?!!

i hope this will show some of these whiners that steve francis not only IS but HAS TO BE a scoring point guard. he has to be a pg who looks to shoot first, then pass. i mean seriously, what steve did over the weekend is exactly what andre miller could have done for us. well that was fantastic. he looked to pass first, second and third. in fact, he was so focused on involving his teammates, he passed up shots he should have taken.

maybe it's time we were honest with ourselves. without steve francis taking at least 15 shots per game, and cuttino mobley having at least 7-9 isolation plays run for him, our chances for winning are slim and none. the other players we have (motay, hak, shan, etc.) are decent background/supporting players. however, they are not exactly the cast of characters a successful "pure" point guard has at his disposal. on this team, as rudy will probably tell you pundits, we need steve to look to shoot more - not hakeem, not shandon - but steve francis.

IMO, if we had andre miller or muggsy bogues or mark jackson or any other non-scoring/non-shooting pg, to go with "tricky dicky" we might have a perfectly winless record.


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Mobley and Francis ...are not the two best players on the team.

- Rockeem 11/2/2000

 

Yes!!! move him to the 2 guard and watch him get butchered by every other 2 guard over 6'4". let's see....that's almost the entire league. let's turn him into chris jackson, err...mahmoud abdul-rauf...err...bench warmer.

sorry, but i don't go for moving steve to the 2 guard. he does have the instincts to be a point guard. i mean, to learn the point guard position is the hardest in the league. he's played it for all of 90 games now. and he's making phenomenal progress. at least he WAS. the last few games have been a classic example of overcompensation IMO.

he's trying TOO HARD to be a point guard. if he would just play his game he could become the new age isaiah thomas. better yet, he could become the never-before-seen STEVE FRANCIS.

stop trying to turn steve into mahmoud. the man's a point guard. he's just a point guard with ridiculous scoring ability and too many pundits telling him that point guards have to shoot less than 10 times per game.

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Mobley and Francis ...are not the two best players on the team.

- Rockeem 11/2/2000

 

DaDa,

seriously.

do you think that any of those "classic" pgs you admire so much would have done anything different than what steve has done these past few games?

you tell me...would we have faired any better? or would we have suffred the same fate?

now tell me this...if someone - let's say, oh i dunno, THE BEST PLAYER ON OUR TEAM (francis, not hakeem in case anyone was wondering), decided to score more, would we not have had a better chance at winning?

isn't that what it's all about...winning? not stats, but who gives us the best chance at winning. that would be francis at a minimum of 15 shots, mobes with a minimum of 5 isos and, yes, hakeem with a minimum of 9 shots.

all those other wonderful stats you love so much like assists:turnover ratios will all fall in place. but it all starts with steve shooting the ball more and not looking to become the next scott skiles. or would ya'll rather have scottie "i hold the single game assist record but sucked hard core" skiles? how about scottie brooks? he seems to be the epitome of what you want: hustle, passing, shoot last, lose first.

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Mobley and Francis ...are not the two best players on the team.

- Rockeem 11/2/2000



[This message has been edited by verse (edited November 13, 2000).]

 

i missed your last post. didn't realize the sarcasm. tho many people have suggested exactly what you said.

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Mobley and Francis ...are not the two best players on the team.

- Rockeem 11/2/2000

 

while i agree with what you're saying about passing out of the double teams (dribbling through it is asinine), i have to take issue with the above quote.

while passing out of the double team is the proper decision, so is shooting the open j, shooting the open layup, and attacking a weaker defender. all of these involve making a conscious effort to be more aggressive and, yes, shoot more.

so, yea, i agree that his decision making is below average right now. i just hope you realize that part of those poor decisions are not shooting the ball enough.

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Mobley and Francis ...are not the two best players on the team.

- Rockeem 11/2/2000