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So far Morey could not do a better job this offseason

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rhester, Jul 2, 2009.

  1. rhester

    rhester Member

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    Patience > Foolishness

    Morey is taking the right approach.
    Forget the word 'tank' please.

    We are rebuilding this offseason and so far we are doing it right- patiently

    Here are the rules for being successful-

    1. Draft very well
    2. Do not spend money foolishly (free agents and extensions)
    3. Win every trade (get more than you give up)

    #1- we didn't have a first round pick. We didn't see the value buying into the lower part of the first round and getting a guaranteed contract when the same value was available in rd. 2.

    What we did do was get at least 2 pieces that were worth selecting in the 2 rd and could meet a need- 2 guard; we don't have a starting 2 guard and we certainly need a back up also

    We will have to draft very well next year to be successful and hopefully we will have at least on high lottery pick either through trade or record.

    #2- We offered Gortat a reasonable deal, hopefully he will take it and hopefully we don't go overboard for such a risk that would hurt our cap numbers over the rebuilding process. We might offer Ariza a contract but again as long as it isn't foolish money he would be a nice young piece to have.

    If we don't score a good free agent signing we will certainly sign some cheaper players to play at the 2 guard (Von?- Barry back up?) and center position.

    Since we are rebuilding and Yao status is in limbo we must not panic.

    #3- There are alot of interesting trade possibilities out there but we must win the trades. There is very little chance of getting a franchise player to replace Yao and Tracy. The best we could do is a Rip Hamilton or Amare and either of those would be difficult trades to win.

    Rebuilding is a painful process but if it is done right we can be in the position to play well while we do it.

    The best scenario is to get a couple of #1 draft picks that are unprotected in a trade. That allows you to get a stud young player and can really give you a chance to put really good free agents around the new future star later.

    I think Morey is doing a very good job of not making a knee jerk junk deal.

    I want something to happen, but most of the options Morey has looked at are probably big risks which could delay the rebuilding process alot.

    Look at teams like Dallas that got to the finals and instead of rebuilding tried to reload, Phoenix is another example, so is Detroit.

    If we move TMac's contract we need to win that deal hands down.

    We need Morey to be smart not desparate.
     
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  2. HeyDude

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    Agreed. I'm glad he's not making some desperation moves. I like the fact he did not offer 30 mil to a career 3 pts 4 reb guy in Gortat. I like that he has not traded TMAC for just trash. I like that he has not thrown outlandish money on Artest (even though i love him, w/o Yao, not worth it anymore). And I LOVE the fact that the players he has targeted (Rubio, Gortat), are younger guys, meaning he's not playing the Astros card and just trying to be competitive. He's looking to rebuild. Its time to let go of the 'win now' mode, and Morey realizes this.
     
  3. Alvin Choo

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    1- interesting draft, thats all i can say. Some may say Morey draft well, but last year draft is a bust. Greene can't even get minutes at the Kings and Dorsey is either injury plagued or just not even good enough to beat Cook for the garbage time.

    2- If the offer is not high, Magic can just match it. And end of story. Same goes for Ariza, he may not be a restricted player, but if the money is the same, why would he leave the NBA champions where he is a starter?

    3- Rip or Amare? Adding them to the current rotation is a good thing, but not as replacement for Tmac/Yao.

    Trading for draft picks usually meant u are off loading talent. Which is not a good thing.
     
  4. Baseballa

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    Hey! The GARM is no place for well thought out, rational posts!

    Get out!! :p

    Seriously, I definitely agree with what you wrote. Taking on Eddy Curry's contract or trading our young players for aging veterans on the decline does nothing for the team except satisfy the bored fans on message boards.
     
  5. Blake

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    5 stars plus rep

    Great post
     
  6. The_Yoyo

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    Absolutely agree

    As much as it pains any fan too see their team go through a depressing season, mortgaging 1 bad season to remain competitive for a strong future is just extremely short sighted.

    We have plenty of great role players and player who are tough and compete, that alone will satisfy me as a fan when they play.

    Its going to be tough getting through the next season for everyone especially after being within 1 W of the conference finals but it will be worth it.
     
  7. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    You took the words right outta my mouf! ;)
     
  8. rhester

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    But I also think the heat still is high on Morey-

    He has to draft very well- nothing sucks like draft day busts
    He has to win trades- it would be nice to have one of those 'date rape' trades like Boston gets Garnett or Lakers get Gasol ;)
     
  9. logicx

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    Fortunately for us, I think that's exactly what he (and the organization) is.

    Good positive message. Thanks.

    :D
     
  10. HowsMyDriving

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    :)

    well done and i agree 100%.
     
  11. Williamson

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    That's absurd. Greene can't get minutes on the Kings, but we didn't keep him. We traded him for Ron Artest who had a fantastic season. Dorsey had an early season injury and was never able to catch up. The jury is still out. But even if he is a bust, nobody bats 1.000. Nobody. He has already proven himself to be an amazing judge of talent in picking up both Brooks and Landry. Those guys weren't on any of our radars.
     
  12. Rocket86

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    I agree. I especially liked the not spending foolishly part because it basically does not tie Morey's hands down the road. He would end up with a few aces up his sleeve to pull out a major deal that would reshape the team immediately. Go Morey!
     
  13. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    I agreed with everything you said until that part, I don't think Minny got raped they do have an All-Star, imo, in Al Jefferson and there draft picks.
     
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    +1

    Some fans around here want a big splash w/out thinking about the consequences.

    The worst thing we can do right now is panic and make a big move just for the sake of it. We could handcuff ourselves for the next few years if we did that and be stuck in mediocrity limbo.

    We take the best deals we can. And if nothing big happens this year, we wait until next year where we still have the position to be a major player in the market.
     
  16. Rocketman2000

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    Morey is doing fine so far. But we do need so height and/or atheletism in the front court. Because as much as I like Scola/Landry, 6'9" forwards aren't going to win you too many games over the long haul. :)
     
  17. kegray34

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    Some decent points except some things are wrong:

    Alvin Choo:
    1. Donta Greene was the 28th pick. What player did anything beyond this pick. Fact is only 2 players in the 2nd round(Mario Chalmers and a Moute) had contributions to there teams. It is not like oh man we could of had this guy instead of drafting Greene. Can't blame Morey for that pick.

    You are right about this:

    2.Offer on Gortat is going to have to be higher than they want because a low one will be matched by Magic. You are either go to overpay for him or not get him.Take your pick.
    Ariza is the same way as mentioned he will not leave LA unless you blow him away $ wise.

    I agree with trade breakdown that Morey should not and will not just give in to a deal where it will not benefit us down the road. The biggest issue with T-Mac was his game was not fitting in with Artest's. Well that is taken care of. I think they are willing to keep T-Mac on board for the season unless they get what they want.
     
  18. The_Yoyo

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    it wasnt a terrible trade but it was a "rape" of sorts since the original offer ainge made was jefferson and the #5 pick and parts which mchale said no to and then after the ray allen trade was made all of a sudden mchale said ok to jefferson + parts

    thats why people are all upset over the garnett trade
     
  19. MrButtocks

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    First of all, we have no idea if Morey drafted well yet. Stashing Llull seems like a good idea and there's optimism around Taylor and Budinger, but they are not guaranteed to be NBA players.

    Secondly, Morey is very lucky in regards to the timing of Yao's injury. Had we already re-signed Artest to a long-term deal or extension before Yao got hurt, we'd be screwed. Had we been able to move Tmac for immediate help, we'd be screwed. We have the option to have cap space in 2010 and to chase after prospects like Rubio. This wouldn't be the case if we had Vince Carter on the team or someone similar.

    We can try and stay competitive. If we want to rebuild, we're in the perfect position to do that too. But make no mistake, we've got a painful season ahead of us. Morey's job this offseason hasn't even started yet.
     
  20. Raven

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    That's absolutely correct. The biggest mistake Morey could make would be to sign veterans, who'll only clog up our cap space and hurt of draft position.
     

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