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    Might want to get rid of the period at the end...

    http://www.slamonline.com/links/index.html

    In bold...our famous Rockets....:)

    SLAM's NBA TOP 75

    1. MICHAEL JORDAN -- Because.
    2. WILT CHAMBERLAIN -- Yes he was tall, but in 1961-62, he averaged 50.4 points per game and 25.7 rebounds per game. For the season.
    3. OSCAR ROBERTSON -- Averaged a triple double in '61-62, and was within one assist or rebound per game of repeating that feat four other seasons.
    4. BILL RUSSELL -- As Russ said, "Eleven rings, ten finger." In 13 years.
    5. MAGIC JOHNSON -- As Scoop writes, "The child with the basketball made the world match his smile."

    6. LARRY BIRD -- LB was asked if he once told his teammates in a championship game to give him the ball and get out of the way. Bird said, "It wasn't a championship game. I said that in every game when it was close.
    7. KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR -- Scored more points than anyone ever has and (probably) ever will. Averaged 29 and 15 as a rook.
    8. JERRY WEST -- 14-time All-Star, one title, averaged 27, 6 boards and 7 assists per for his career.
    9. SHAQUILLE O'NEAL -- Has averaged 28 and 12 over ten seasons, with three titles. So far...
    10. JULIUS ERVING -- The original leader of the new school. Over 30,000 points in his combined ABA/NBA career.

    11. ELGIN BAYLOR -- The most important player in NBA history, which is greater than great.
    12. HAKEEM OLAJUWON -- Only man to rank in the League's all-time Top 10 in points, boards, blocks and steals.
    13. KARL MALONE -- He's not hip-hop, but he is revolutionary.
    14. BOB PETTIT -- At 6-9, 200 pounds, played a decade, won one MVP, and retired with career averages of 26.4 ppg and 16.2 rpg.
    15. JOHN HAVLICEK -- Always made the big play. Scored 26,395 for his career.

    16. MOSES MALONE -- The best player on the best team in NBA history, the '82-83 Sixers, who finished 77-18 (including 12-1 in the playoffs). Won three MVPs.
    17. ISIAH THOMAS -- "If he were six inches taller, we're talking about the greatest player in the history of basketball." -- Chuck Daly.
    18. JOHN STOCKTON -- All-time leader in steals and assists. Now, at 41 years old, averages 8 assists per game and hasn't missed a start in five seasons.
    19. CHARLES BARKLEY -- At 6-4 1/2, Barkley took on much bigger opponents every night and annihilated them. Just ask Godzilla.
    20. WALT FRAZIER -- Teamed with Earl Monroe to win the Knicks' only two NBA titles.

    21. RICK BARRY -- Averaged 35.6 PPG in his second season. Only man to lead NBA and ABA in scoring. First team All-NBA five times and All-ABA four times.
    22. BOB COUSY -- Led the NBA in assists eight straight seasons. Won six titles. He was the Celtics.
    23. ELVIN HAYES -- He willed the 1978 Bullets to a ring. He and Rick Barry were the first Bird/Magic. Had an unstoppable turnaround J.
    24. DAVE COWENS -- Was a center at just 6-9, 230, but averaged 18 PPG and 14 rpg for his career. Once led his team in points, rebounds and assists for a season. Won two titles.
    25. GEORGE GERVIN -- Number 44 didn't break the mold. Nah, he froze it.

    26. KEVIN MCHALE -- "Kevin McHale became the most difficult low-post player to defend in the history of the League." -- Hubie Brown.
    27. DOMINIQUE WILKINS -- Managed to score 25,000-plus points. Even Ray Charles could see that 'Nique was on a whole other level.
    28. PATRICK EWING -- Averaged 20 PPG or more for 13 straight seasons. An 11-time All-Star.
    29. WILLIS REED -- As a rook in '64-65, averaged 20 PPG and 15 rpg. In 1970 was MVP of the regular season, All-Star Game and the Finals. Won two rings.
    30. WES UNSELD -- The only player not named Wilt to get Rookie of the Year and MVP in the same year.

    31. GEORGE MIKAN -- Won five titles in a six-year span. The NBA's first giant.
    32. EARL MONROE -- So sick they called him Black Jesus. "Earl Monroe did on the ground everything Dr. J did in the air."
    33. NATE THURMOND -- First player to drop a quadruple-double. Averaged 22 rpg in '67-68, and once grabbed 42 in a game. Yeah, 42.
    34. DOLPH SCHAYES -- One of the toughest players in NBA history. Played fifteen years, first-team all-league six times.
    35. WALT BELLAMY -- Rookie Of the Year in '61-62, averaging 32 and 19 for an expansion team. Missed just 19 games in 14 years.

    36. DAVID ROBINSON -- ROY in '90. Led NBA in rebounds in '91. Defensive player of the year and leading shot-blocker in '92. Scoring champ in '94. MVP in '95. One ring.
    37. BILLY CUNNINGHAM -- MVP of ABA in '72-73, then averaged 21 and 10 in nine NBA seasons. Coached '83 Sixers to a title.
    38. PAUL ARIZIN -- Two-time scoring leader, scored 16K points in 10 years, including missing two years due to military service. One title.
    39. DAVE DEBUSSCHERE -- Averaged 16 and 11 for his career. All-Defense first team from '69 through '74. Was Pistons player/coach at 24 years old. Won title in 1970. Pitched two year for the Chicago White Sox.
    40. ALEX ENGLISH -- Dropped 30 on the regular. Scored over 25,000 in his career.

    41. SCOTTIE PIPPEN -- Maybe the most valuable player on the Bulls throughout the '90s. Mike drew attention, Scottie drew charges.
    42. NATE ARCHIBALD -- An NYC playground legend. Averaged 34 PPG and 11 apg in one season. Known as Nate "The Skate" -- only people in suits called him "Tiny."
    43. ADRIAN DANTLEY -- At just 6-5, Dantley played 15 years, scored 23,177 points and shot .540 percent.
    44. CLYDE DREXLER -- The Glide was a ten-time All-Star and won a ring in 1995.
    45. BERNARD KING -- Spent three seasons as perhaps the most dominant player alive.
    46. BOB MCADOO -- Averaged 34.5 PPG and 14.1 rpg in '74-75. Led NBA in scoring three straight years. "It was all in his name: McAdoo can do!" -- Elvin Hayes.
    47. GARY PAYTON -- The protruding jaw. Righty lay-ups from the left side. Flat-footed three-pointers. The glare. The legs-spread, best-ever example of in-your-shorts defense.
    48. ARTIS GILMORE -- Retired as the NBA's all-time field goal percentage leader, at 59.9 percent. Six-time NBA All-Star, five-time ABA All-Star.
    49. JERRY LUCAS -- Averaged 20 points and 20 boards in a season. Twice. Won championships in high school, college, the Olympics and the NBA.
    50. PETE MARAVICH -- He needs to see Jason Williams play, he needs to see all the And1 Mix Tapes. Then again, Pete Maravich is probably seeing all of it. Looking down from above, saying, "They finally got it."

    51. HAL GREER -- 6-2 guard that played 15 years, retiring in 1973 as one of the League's Top 10 scorers. "Greatest mid-range jumpshooter in the history of the game." -- Dolph Schayes.
    52. REGGIE MILLER -- The best buzzer-beater we've ever known. Started over 100 playoff games and averaged 23.5 points per, better than his regular-season PPG
    53. ALLEN IVERSON -- Changed the NBA's palming rules. Fastest player of all time, that angular speed, not just end to end.
    54. DAN ISSEL -- Five ABA seasons and 10 NBA years. Regularly rocked the rim -- was invited to participate in the inaugural ABA Dunk Contest.
    55. TIM DUNCAN -- Second player in history to be All NBA and All Defensive in his first five seasons. He makes it hard for you haters.
    56. ROBERT PARISH -- The original stone cold morning pimp. Played 21 seasons and won four rings. Finished with remarkably blunt numbers.
    57. JAMES WORTHY -- Averaged 18 and 5 in 12 years with the Showtime Lakers. Seven-time All-Star, one-time Finals MVP. Three rings.
    58. SAM JONES -- Won ten titles with Boston and had five All-Star Game appearances.
    59. KOBE BRYANT -- Even seven years and three rings deep, hasn't had a team to call his own. Our guess? Next time he'll be closer to six than 60.
    60. LENNY WILKENS -- One of two players (John Wooden is the other) to make the Hall of Fame as a player and coach. Outside of Jerry West, perhaps the greatest basketball life of all time.

    61. JASON KIDD -- JKidd is no Magic, but he is the greatest all-around PG in the game today. There will never be another Magic, but if Kidd keeps this up there may never be another Kidd, either.
    62. BOB LANIER -- Big Bob piled up 19,248 points and 9,698 boards, with eight All-Star Game appearances, despite eight knee operations.
    63. DENNIS JOHNSON -- Bird stole the ball, but who made the f**king basket? Arguably the greatest defensive guard of all time.
    64. CHRIS WEBBER -- Always among League leaders in points and rebounds, and flirts with a triple-double every night. Combines inside strength with a consistent jumper. Who does it better?
    65. CHRIS MULLIN -- The greatest Warrior of the '80s and '90s. Between '88 and '93, averaged 25.8 PPG, 5.6 rpg and 1.9 spg. The West Coast Larry Bird.
    66. MARK AGUIRRE -- An unstoppable offensive force. During the '80s averaged 29.5, then 25.7, 22.6, 25.7 and 25.1 PPG Won two rings with Detroit.
    67. CONNIE HAWKINS -- One 6-9, massive-hands-havin', futuristic-dunk-givin', 30-ppg-droppin' gentleman. Prohibited from playing in the NBA until he was 30 because of his background -- that's Hawk's life in one sentence.
    68. SPENCER HAYWOOD -- As a rook in the ABA in '69, Haywood averaged 30 and 20 PPG and won ROY and MVP. Averaged 24.5 PPG and 12.5 rpg for Seattle between '70 and '75. His lawsuit brought down the NBA's ban on underclassmen entering the draft.
    69. DENNIS RODMAN -- Had '60s-era rebounding numbers, a tireless work ethic, an Iversonian relationship with practice, played airtight man-to-man defense. Won five rings.
    70. KEVIN GARNETT -- Never played in college, but has been an All-Star every season, won a gold medal, gets at least 20, 10 and 5 every night. He turns 27 in May.

    71. DAVE BING -- Helped put Detroit on the map as a hoops Mecca. Averaged 26 and 7 in '67-68. Since retiring in '78, his Bing Steel has been one of the most successful businesses run by any former athlete. If Charles Barkley doesn't want to be a role model, we got Dave Bing.
    72. ALONZO MOURNING -- We thought he was inhuman -- in a good way. If the NBA had a lab where it created paint-banging big men, the prototype might be Zo.
    73. BILL WALTON -- Only played the equivalent of six seasons, but won two titles and an MVP. Averaged 18 and 14 from '75-78.
    74. GRANT HILL -- Has played nine years, three of those on a shattered ankle, and still has career averages of 21, 8 and 6.
    75. TRACY MCGRADY -- He's only been All-NBA twice, only averaged at least 20 in a season twice. Averaged 25, 8 and 5 over last (nearly) three years. Turns 24 in May.
     
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    Drexler is way too low at #44.
     
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    SLAM's NBA TOP 75

    1. MICHAEL JORDAN -- Because.
    2. WILT CHAMBERLAIN -- Yes he was tall, but in 1961-62, he averaged 50.4 points per game and 25.7 rebounds per game. For the season.
    3. OSCAR ROBERTSON -- Averaged a triple double in '61-62, and was within one assist or rebound per game of repeating that feat four other seasons.
    4. BILL RUSSELL -- As Russ said, "Eleven rings, ten finger." In 13 years.
    5. MAGIC JOHNSON -- As Scoop writes, "The child with the basketball made the world match his smile."

    6. LARRY BIRD -- LB was asked if he once told his teammates in a championship game to give him the ball and get out of the way. Bird said, "It wasn't a championship game. I said that in every game when it was close.
    7. KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR -- Scored more points than anyone ever has and (probably) ever will. Averaged 29 and 15 as a rook.
    8. JERRY WEST -- 14-time All-Star, one title, averaged 27, 6 boards and 7 assists per for his career.
    9. SHAQUILLE O'NEAL -- Has averaged 28 and 12 over ten seasons, with three titles. So far...
    10. JULIUS ERVING -- The original leader of the new school. Over 30,000 points in his combined ABA/NBA career.

    11. ELGIN BAYLOR -- The most important player in NBA history, which is greater than great.
    12. HAKEEM OLAJUWON -- Only man to rank in the League's all-time Top 10 in points, boards, blocks and steals.
    13. KARL MALONE -- He's not hip-hop, but he is revolutionary.
    14. BOB PETTIT -- At 6-9, 200 pounds, played a decade, won one MVP, and retired with career averages of 26.4 ppg and 16.2 rpg.
    15. JOHN HAVLICEK -- Always made the big play. Scored 26,395 for his career.

    16. MOSES MALONE -- The best player on the best team in NBA history, the '82-83 Sixers, who finished 77-18 (including 12-1 in the playoffs). Won three MVPs.
    17. ISIAH THOMAS -- "If he were six inches taller, we're talking about the greatest player in the history of basketball." -- Chuck Daly.
    18. JOHN STOCKTON -- All-time leader in steals and assists. Now, at 41 years old, averages 8 assists per game and hasn't missed a start in five seasons.
    19. CHARLES BARKLEY -- At 6-4 1/2, Barkley took on much bigger opponents every night and annihilated them. Just ask Godzilla.
    20. WALT FRAZIER -- Teamed with Earl Monroe to win the Knicks' only two NBA titles.

    21. RICK BARRY -- Averaged 35.6 PPG in his second season. Only man to lead NBA and ABA in scoring. First team All-NBA five times and All-ABA four times.
    22. BOB COUSY -- Led the NBA in assists eight straight seasons. Won six titles. He was the Celtics.
    23. ELVIN HAYES -- He willed the 1978 Bullets to a ring. He and Rick Barry were the first Bird/Magic. Had an unstoppable turnaround J.
    24. DAVE COWENS -- Was a center at just 6-9, 230, but averaged 18 PPG and 14 rpg for his career. Once led his team in points, rebounds and assists for a season. Won two titles.
    25. GEORGE GERVIN -- Number 44 didn't break the mold. Nah, he froze it.

    26. KEVIN MCHALE -- "Kevin McHale became the most difficult low-post player to defend in the history of the League." -- Hubie Brown.
    27. DOMINIQUE WILKINS -- Managed to score 25,000-plus points. Even Ray Charles could see that 'Nique was on a whole other level.
    28. PATRICK EWING -- Averaged 20 PPG or more for 13 straight seasons. An 11-time All-Star.
    29. WILLIS REED -- As a rook in '64-65, averaged 20 PPG and 15 rpg. In 1970 was MVP of the regular season, All-Star Game and the Finals. Won two rings.
    30. WES UNSELD -- The only player not named Wilt to get Rookie of the Year and MVP in the same year.

    31. GEORGE MIKAN -- Won five titles in a six-year span. The NBA's first giant.
    32. EARL MONROE -- So sick they called him Black Jesus. "Earl Monroe did on the ground everything Dr. J did in the air."
    33. NATE THURMOND -- First player to drop a quadruple-double. Averaged 22 rpg in '67-68, and once grabbed 42 in a game. Yeah, 42.
    34. DOLPH SCHAYES -- One of the toughest players in NBA history. Played fifteen years, first-team all-league six times.
    35. WALT BELLAMY -- Rookie Of the Year in '61-62, averaging 32 and 19 for an expansion team. Missed just 19 games in 14 years.

    36. DAVID ROBINSON -- ROY in '90. Led NBA in rebounds in '91. Defensive player of the year and leading shot-blocker in '92. Scoring champ in '94. MVP in '95. One ring.
    37. BILLY CUNNINGHAM -- MVP of ABA in '72-73, then averaged 21 and 10 in nine NBA seasons. Coached '83 Sixers to a title.
    38. PAUL ARIZIN -- Two-time scoring leader, scored 16K points in 10 years, including missing two years due to military service. One title.
    39. DAVE DEBUSSCHERE -- Averaged 16 and 11 for his career. All-Defense first team from '69 through '74. Was Pistons player/coach at 24 years old. Won title in 1970. Pitched two year for the Chicago White Sox.
    40. ALEX ENGLISH -- Dropped 30 on the regular. Scored over 25,000 in his career.

    41. SCOTTIE PIPPEN -- Maybe the most valuable player on the Bulls throughout the '90s. Mike drew attention, Scottie drew charges.
    42. NATE ARCHIBALD -- An NYC playground legend. Averaged 34 PPG and 11 apg in one season. Known as Nate "The Skate" -- only people in suits called him "Tiny."
    43. ADRIAN DANTLEY -- At just 6-5, Dantley played 15 years, scored 23,177 points and shot .540 percent.
    44. CLYDE DREXLER -- The Glide was a ten-time All-Star and won a ring in 1995.
    45. BERNARD KING -- Spent three seasons as perhaps the most dominant player alive.

    46. BOB MCADOO -- Averaged 34.5 PPG and 14.1 rpg in '74-75. Led NBA in scoring three straight years. "It was all in his name: McAdoo can do!" -- Elvin Hayes.
    47. GARY PAYTON -- The protruding jaw. Righty lay-ups from the left side. Flat-footed three-pointers. The glare. The legs-spread, best-ever example of in-your-shorts defense.
    48. ARTIS GILMORE -- Retired as the NBA's all-time field goal percentage leader, at 59.9 percent. Six-time NBA All-Star, five-time ABA All-Star.
    49. JERRY LUCAS -- Averaged 20 points and 20 boards in a season. Twice. Won championships in high school, college, the Olympics and the NBA.
    50. PETE MARAVICH -- He needs to see Jason Williams play, he needs to see all the And1 Mix Tapes. Then again, Pete Maravich is probably seeing all of it. Looking down from above, saying, "They finally got it."

    51. HAL GREER -- 6-2 guard that played 15 years, retiring in 1973 as one of the League's Top 10 scorers. "Greatest mid-range jumpshooter in the history of the game." -- Dolph Schayes.
    52. REGGIE MILLER -- The best buzzer-beater we've ever known. Started over 100 playoff games and averaged 23.5 points per, better than his regular-season PPG
    53. ALLEN IVERSON -- Changed the NBA's palming rules. Fastest player of all time, that angular speed, not just end to end.
    54. DAN ISSEL -- Five ABA seasons and 10 NBA years. Regularly rocked the rim -- was invited to participate in the inaugural ABA Dunk Contest.
    55. TIM DUNCAN -- Second player in history to be All NBA and All Defensive in his first five seasons. He makes it hard for you haters.

    56. ROBERT PARISH -- The original stone cold morning pimp. Played 21 seasons and won four rings. Finished with remarkably blunt numbers.
    57. JAMES WORTHY -- Averaged 18 and 5 in 12 years with the Showtime Lakers. Seven-time All-Star, one-time Finals MVP. Three rings.
    58. SAM JONES -- Won ten titles with Boston and had five All-Star Game appearances.
    59. KOBE BRYANT -- Even seven years and three rings deep, hasn't had a team to call his own. Our guess? Next time he'll be closer to six than 60.
    60. LENNY WILKENS -- One of two players (John Wooden is the other) to make the Hall of Fame as a player and coach. Outside of Jerry West, perhaps the greatest basketball life of all time.

    61. JASON KIDD -- JKidd is no Magic, but he is the greatest all-around PG in the game today. There will never be another Magic, but if Kidd keeps this up there may never be another Kidd, either.
    62. BOB LANIER -- Big Bob piled up 19,248 points and 9,698 boards, with eight All-Star Game appearances, despite eight knee operations.
    63. DENNIS JOHNSON -- Bird stole the ball, but who made the f**king basket? Arguably the greatest defensive guard of all time.
    64. CHRIS WEBBER -- Always among League leaders in points and rebounds, and flirts with a triple-double every night. Combines inside strength with a consistent jumper. Who does it better?
    65. CHRIS MULLIN -- The greatest Warrior of the '80s and '90s. Between '88 and '93, averaged 25.8 PPG, 5.6 rpg and 1.9 spg. The West Coast Larry Bird.

    66. MARK AGUIRRE -- An unstoppable offensive force. During the '80s averaged 29.5, then 25.7, 22.6, 25.7 and 25.1 PPG Won two rings with Detroit.
    67. CONNIE HAWKINS -- One 6-9, massive-hands-havin', futuristic-dunk-givin', 30-ppg-droppin' gentleman. Prohibited from playing in the NBA until he was 30 because of his background -- that's Hawk's life in one sentence.
    68. SPENCER HAYWOOD -- As a rook in the ABA in '69, Haywood averaged 30 and 20 PPG and won ROY and MVP. Averaged 24.5 PPG and 12.5 rpg for Seattle between '70 and '75. His lawsuit brought down the NBA's ban on underclassmen entering the draft.
    69. DENNIS RODMAN -- Had '60s-era rebounding numbers, a tireless work ethic, an Iversonian relationship with practice, played airtight man-to-man defense. Won five rings.
    70. KEVIN GARNETT -- Never played in college, but has been an All-Star every season, won a gold medal, gets at least 20, 10 and 5 every night. He turns 27 in May.

    71. DAVE BING -- Helped put Detroit on the map as a hoops Mecca. Averaged 26 and 7 in '67-68. Since retiring in '78, his Bing Steel has been one of the most successful businesses run by any former athlete. If Charles Barkley doesn't want to be a role model, we got Dave Bing.
    72. ALONZO MOURNING -- We thought he was inhuman -- in a good way. If the NBA had a lab where it created paint-banging big men, the prototype might be Zo.
    73. BILL WALTON -- Only played the equivalent of six seasons, but won two titles and an MVP. Averaged 18 and 14 from '75-78.
    74. GRANT HILL -- Has played nine years, three of those on a shattered ankle, and still has career averages of 21, 8 and 6.
    75. TRACY MCGRADY -- He's only been All-NBA twice, only averaged at least 20 in a season twice. Averaged 25, 8 and 5 over last (nearly) three years. Turns 24 in May.
     
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    I think Hakeem is too low, and others don't even deserve to be there...like Kobe and T-Mac...I think Hakeem, even by their rationale, should rank somewhere between 8-10...I don't see what Baylor's 'importance' has to do with his ranking...Was Jackie Robinson better than Willie Mays?
     
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    Thanks Freak. Someday I'll learn how to do that....maybe. :)
     
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    I just noticed all the guys they had Bryant ahead of. What a complete joke! This list is officially a joke.
     
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    My thoughts...

    For the love of freakin' God, how can they put Grant Hill or Tracy McGrady on this list without including Calvin Murphy??? Are they serious???

    1. MICHAEL JORDAN
    2. WILT CHAMBERLAIN
    3. OSCAR ROBERTSON
    4. BILL RUSSELL
    5. MAGIC JOHNSON

    6. LARRY BIRD
    7. KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR
    8. JERRY WEST
    9. SHAQUILLE O'NEAL
    10. JULIUS ERVING

    11. ELGIN BAYLOR
    12. HAKEEM OLAJUWON
    13. KARL MALONE
    14. BOB PETTIT
    15. JOHN HAVLICEK

    IMO, I have no problem with the top 15. I might re-arrange just a bit, but, overall a fairly decent list.

    16. MOSES MALONE
    17. ISIAH THOMAS
    18. JOHN STOCKTON
    19. CHARLES BARKLEY
    20. WALT FRAZIER

    Isaiah Thomas ahead of Stockton? I mean, I hate Stockton, but that seems nuts. Thomas, IMO, goes in the 20's. Maybe move him down below Hayes.

    21. RICK BARRY
    22. BOB COUSY
    23. ELVIN HAYES
    24. DAVE COWENS
    25. GEORGE GERVIN

    26. KEVIN MCHALE
    27. DOMINIQUE WILKINS
    28. PATRICK EWING
    29. WILLIS REED
    30. WES UNSELD

    This is WAY too high for Wilkins. The guy was a great player and definitely deserved to be put in the top 50, which he wasn't, but 27??? No way.

    31. GEORGE MIKAN
    32. EARL MONROE
    33. NATE THURMOND
    34. DOLPH SCHAYES
    35. WALT BELLAMY

    36. DAVID ROBINSON
    37. BILLY CUNNINGHAM
    38. PAUL ARIZIN
    39. DAVE DEBUSSCHERE
    40. ALEX ENGLISH

    All these guys are fine, but, IMO, Pippen deserves to be up in this group.

    41. SCOTTIE PIPPEN
    42. NATE ARCHIBALD
    43. ADRIAN DANTLEY
    44. CLYDE DREXLER
    45. BERNARD KING

    This is far too low for Drexler. If anything, I'd swap him out with Wilkens in a heartbeat.

    46. BOB MCADOO
    47. GARY PAYTON
    48. ARTIS GILMORE
    49. JERRY LUCAS
    50. PETE MARAVICH

    51. HAL GREER
    52. REGGIE MILLER
    53. ALLEN IVERSON
    54. DAN ISSEL
    55. TIM DUNCAN

    I dunno. Miller and Iverson in the top 55? Seems high especially with James Worthy Lenny Wilkens in the next group.

    56. ROBERT PARISH
    57. JAMES WORTHY
    58. SAM JONES
    59. KOBE BRYANT
    60. LENNY WILKENS

    Bryant seems a bit high. A little dreamcasting maybe.

    61. JASON KIDD
    62. BOB LANIER
    63. DENNIS JOHNSON
    64. CHRIS WEBBER
    65. CHRIS MULLIN

    I just don't get how you can put Webber at 64. If he makes it in the top 75 at all, it is the last 10 at best. Just makes no sense.

    66. MARK AGUIRRE
    67. CONNIE HAWKINS
    68. SPENCER HAYWOOD
    69. DENNIS RODMAN
    70. KEVIN GARNETT

    I just think this is low for Hawkins also. I would think swapping him with Webber would be a smarter move at best. This is about right for Garnett.

    71. DAVE BING
    72. ALONZO MOURNING
    74. GRANT HILL
    75. TRACY MCGRADY

    Personally, I'm not sure Hill should even make the top 75, but, if he is going in, this is the right spot. But McGrady??? This is some SERIOUS projecting. He is just now becoming an MVP candidate. In 5 years, for sure, but not now especially at the exclusion of a guy like Murphy.

    Not a horrible list, but some definite reaches.
     
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    I don't think it's that bad really. Kobe already has 3 rings. He is already the youngest player ever to reach 10,000 points (just recently) meaning, is still getting better, rebounds, great court vision, all-star selections and MVP's, solid defender. I hate Kobe as much as the next guy, but I wouldn't be surprised to see this guy at number 1 on this list in 20 years time.
     
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    Barkley is way way too high. I would put him in with Patrick Ewing and Dominique. Barkley was not a "Clutch" player as was proven year after year. He put up nice numbers, but when the going got tough, he didn't.
     
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    Dominique Wilkins not being on the NBA's top 50 of All Time list pisses me off everytime I think about that.

    Other than that, I think this lists Top 15 is good, except I would have Magic #1. I know everyone concedes Jordan, but Magic is the definition of MVP in my opinion, to think he was a Finals MVP his rookie year is absolutely sick, and he came out as a Sophomore.
     
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    DREXLER is definately top 20 material. This is horse sh*t!!!
    Clyde is better than Pippen any day
     
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    Well, Zeke did win 2 rings competing in a better era. That's huge.
     
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    Isaiah Thomas ahead of Stockton? I mean, I hate Stockton, but that seems nuts. Thomas, IMO, goes in the 20's. Maybe move him down below Hayes.


    Isaiah is the most dominant little man in the history, the second most dominant little man is Kevin Johnson. Stockton is a great point guard, but Isiah was a dominant player, the guy won championships in College and the pro's, and he was the best on both of those teams, if Stockton broke through and won, he would have still been playing with the best power forward in the history of the game. I don't even think you can argue Stockton is better, all Stockton has is longevity, Thomas has the brass.
     
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    Not that many people outside of Houston & Portland agree with you.
     
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    TIM DUNCAN... TIMMY!!!
     
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    He should be higher than David Robinson
     
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    I truly have a problem with Karl Malone's ranking and I feel Barkley was ranked too low.

    Malone is consistent, Yes, but has NEVER been truly great. I honestly think that Stockton was always the more important factor. Without him their offense is in shambles. Malone was the consistent beneficiary of the more skilled passer and creator i've seen in the half court set. Stockton as much as I hate him is ice cold.

    I feel Barkley for a few of those years was just amazing. For a guy of his size to DOMINATE was just a work of art. He swallowed up every rebound and had an uncanny scoring ability and played big in big games unlike Karla..
     

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