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[Singapore]Pooper now for no homos only.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Invisible Fan, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22638765-23109,00.html

    SINGAPORE today legalised oral and anal sex between heterosexual couples but retained a law which criminalises intercourse between gay men.

    In the city-state's first major penal code amendments in 22 years, Parliament repealed a section criminalising “carnal intercourse against the order of nature”.

    Parliament however kept the penal code's section 377A, which makes sex between men a criminal offence, rejecting a petition by gay rights activists and their non-homosexual supporters to abolish the law as well.

    Opponents of the law say it is a relic of British colonial rule.

    The law punishes offenders with up to two years in jail, although it has rarely been enforced.

    Under the just-approved amendments, new offences were enacted to tackle child prostitution and sex tourism, as well as cover crimes committed with the use of technology such as the internet and mobile phone text messaging.

    But a rare petition read in Parliament to abolish the law banning sex between men sparked the most passionate debates in the normally staid legislature dominated by the ruling People's Action Party.

    Legislators supporting the law's retention centred their arguments on the need to maintain family and moral values in the conservative Asian society, while proponents appealed for equal treatment of minorities guaranteed by the constitution.

    Member of Parliament Siew Kum Hong, who supported the petition, said legalising sexual acts between two consenting heterosexual adults, while refusing to decriminalise the same acts between homosexual men, was discriminatory.

    But Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong weighed in for the retention of the law, saying that Singapore remains a conservative society - with the traditional family as its main building bloc - and homosexuals cannot set the tone for the mainstream.

    Abolishing the law could “send the wrong signal” and push gay activists to ask for more concessions, such as same-sex marriage and parenting, Mr Lee said.

    Gays “are free to lead their lives and pursue their social activities,” the Prime Minister said, citing the existence of gay websites and gay bars.

    “But there are restraints, and we do not approve of them setting the tone of mainstream society,” he said.

    “They live their lives, that's their personal space. But the tone of the overall society, I think, it remains conventional, it remains straight and we want it to remain so.”

    Lee said keeping the statute unchanged, while not aggressively enforcing it, remained the best option.

    Singapore would adapt to global economic changes in order to stay competitive, but must take a more cautious approach when it comes to moral values, Mr Lee said.

    “We were right to uphold the family unit when Western countries went for experimental lifestyles in the 1960s - the hippies, free love,” he said.

    “But I'm glad we did that, because today, if you look at Western Europe, the marriage as an institution is dead, families have broken down, the majority of children are born out of wedlock and live in families where the father and the mother are not husband and wife living together bringing them up.”

    Gay rights activists say the law against homosexual sex affects about 200,000 people in the wealthy island-republic of more than four million.
     
  2. ima_drummer2k

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    Well, so much for my weekend plans. :mad:



    EDIT: Clutch, please delete the post above. It's not letting me for some reason. PLEASE HURRY!!
     
  3. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Doesn't this leave all kinds of legal, um, holes?

    Wouldn't the state have to prove that two men *knew* they with another guy?

    If they're just in a dark room, can't they claim they had no idea and they thought it was legal hetero sex? There is actual precedent for guys being confused about this, hard as that is to believe.
     
  4. Lil Pun

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    How would anybody know unless they go around bragging about it or something?
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    If they are that stupid, they should probably be euthanized.
     
  6. TeamUSA

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    can't believe this. I worked there for 2 years and I didn't notice any male homos.
     
  7. pirc1

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    Singapore sure have some real stupid laws. Are gums now legal? :p
     
  8. robbie380

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    ladyboy?
     
  9. B-Bob

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    That is the phenomenon of which I speak.
     
  10. insane man

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    there aren't any homosexuals in singapore. duh.
     
  11. SamFisher

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    So funny that Singapore has all these ridiculous rules which are so strictly enforced - except that you can go there an pretty much bang all the hookers you want.
     
  12. Mr. Brightside

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    I agree, the law is irrelevant as Singapore does not have any homos.
     
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    Iran invaded Singapore?!?!?

    Let's Roll.
     
  15. Lil Pun

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    Is **** PC?
     
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    Singapore in the early part of the 20th C. had a really seedy reputation for transvestites and male and female prostitution. The main center for this was in an area called Bugis Street. When Singapore gained independence and Lee Kuan Yew set about reforming Singaporean civil society Bugis Street was torn up to build a subway station and most of the prostitutes and transvestites arrested. The economy of that area suffered and the government realized that Bugis Street was an income generator so a new Bugis Street was built but so effective was the crackdown on prostitution and transvestites that it was hard to find any Singaporean transvestites so that the government has quietly been allowing recruiting Thai and Philipino transvestites to restock Bugis Street.
     
  18. Cannonball

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    I went to high school in Singapore for awhile. IIRC, there's only one area where prostitution is legal, and the government makes money off of it. If they could make a lot of money off of gay butt sex, they might allow that too.

    I used to have a T-shirt that said "Singapore is a FINE city" with the FINE being a big red stamp. Then on the back, it had a bunch of pictures with lines through them showing you what you couldn't do and how much the fine was. Surprisingly, they have a problem with people pissing in elevators (or lifts as they call them).
     
  19. pirc1

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    You mean elevators are not for pissing? :confused:
     
  20. olliez

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    10% of Singapore girls are hookers at one time or another.
     

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