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Simple trade that really works!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by drpepper, Jul 19, 2003.

  1. drpepper

    drpepper Member

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    Houston trades:
    Kelvin Cato PF/C
    Maurice Taylor PF


    Boston trades:
    Antoine Walker PF/SF
    Bruno Sundov C

    Trades Accepted


    Boston gets what it's looking for in some real frontcourt help/depth with Cato and Battie as their 5 rotation and a 4 who stays closer to the basket than Walker.

    Houston gets a legit and versitle all-star very capable of hitting the open shot. He likes to make his living from the perimeter so it will probably encourage Eddie to focus his game in the post with a little help from Ewing and company. We also get beneficial cap relief and a developing 7-2 center out of Croatia with a good J. With Baidine as our reserve 4/5, I think we could swing this trade and not hurt ourselves too bad.
     
  2. dutchbut

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    hey it would be nice to have employee # 8 work for us but this trade would leave the rockets without a back up center.:(
     
  3. Oski2005

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    LOL, you can't tell me that you honestly believe the Celts would take on those 2 contracts and give up an allstar calliber player who scores more than those 2 combined.
     
  4. drpepper

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    well first off
    they don't need more scorers

    and second they've thought about taking less (Ward and K. Thomas)
     
  5. mfclark

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    Simple trade? No.

    Any trade involving a former all-star and such salaries is not simple.

    Trade that "really works?" No. Boston's probably going to keep Walker, and knowing the NY media, those discussions involving Thomas and Ward were just pipe dreams. His value is higher, even if he is overrated.

    And would the Rockets really want Eddie Griffin learning from the least powerful power forward in the game today? He already jacks up enough threes as it is.

    So, I plead with everyone - stop with these crazy, unrealistic trade rumors! Yes, it's the doldrums of summer - but there a LOT of other things to talk about than making up crazy stuff like this.
     
  6. LAfadeaway33

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    They dont need more scorers?:eek: The only scorer on the team is Paul Pierce and they are desperate to get him some help. There is no way they part with the only player taking pressure off of pierce for two huge and horrible contracts. Walker is someone who not only can score and grab rebounds (he has averaged just under a double double for his career) but has proven he can at times play point forward. They may be trying to get rid of him but it would take some serious talent, not our overpaid scrubs.
     
  7. cparka

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    I second that. and what's with your little "TRADES ACCEPTED" note? accepted in your own head maybe, in another world maybe, but no. I couldn't agree more with mfclark here. layden is stupid enough of a GM to have made his offer, don't lower yourself to that level with an equally improbable offer when Ainge said he's keeping Walker.
     
  8. torrr

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    Walker isn't a player I would want anyway, he makes many stupid mistakes and jacks up way too many shots. A lot of people think Mobley has bad shot selection, Walker is even worse... He takes 5 more shots per game than Mobley, yet shot only 38.8% from the field... as a power forward. That's a lot lower than Eddie's FG percent.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    If Mobley is a cancer, then Walker is the grim reaper.
     
  10. drpepper

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    look here to all NBA so called experts:

    I have good friends that live in Concord, NH that are telling me that Walker is GONE!!

    Why??

    Well first and foremost, he makes more money than Pierce and you can imagine what you brotheren have to say about that in bean town. I hear that he is significantly overpaid (de ja vu) and needs to go for some much needed front court help. Especially since he only makes .333 from his favorite spot.

    Second, they don't see that big of a problem with Cato's contract and think Mo's is acceptable compared to what they already have. Check some Boston Boards if you think I'm lying.

    Also, i checked it myself and it works out on REALGM.COM.

    I, not to be the only one from either side, thinks it works out for both teams. Walker avg. 4.8 ast. last season so he isn't obsessed with his shot like Cat.

    If my boys in B-town would definitely do it, I would too.

    And if MFClark thinks Vin Baker is gonna do something in Boston
    you should stop posting.
     
  11. smoothie

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    i like it because walker can play point foward.

    and he has reportedly lost 20 lbs.
     
  12. GB_Rocket

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    Didn't Walker lead the league in 3 point attempts? And made, what, a whopping 30% or thereabouts? Just what we need from a PF. :rolleyes:
     
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    Why don't we just throw in Mobley for Pierce while were at it.:rolleyes:
     
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    So our problems are shot selection, selfish play, and lack of tough interior defense...and we're gonna bring in the NBA's mad bomber?
     
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    Boston would be very dumb to make this trade. They may need the frontcourt help but Walker is a legit star in this league and can fetch far greater talent from other teams. No way this trade happens.
     
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    NO NO NO NO NO NO!
     
  18. drpepper

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    well, nice to see nothing has changed,

    some of you guys are adamently against this trade idea


    others say it would be too good to be true and to stop dreaming!!

    a nice mix all together, i think it's fairly reasonable with both teams losing and gaining and it works mathematically. maybe a 1st round pick thrown in from both teams (essentially swaping picks) if it would make a difference, may help both opinions

    thanks for the input, all beit good or bad.
     
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    Walkers terrible. He's the most overrated player in the game. His shooting percentage is even worse then Griffin's, only he takes 20 or more shots a game. He's also undersized at the PF position, and likes to settle for perimeter jumpers then bang in the paint. I thought it was already reasoned that at the PF position to compliment Yao, the Rockets need a banger in the paint. Also Walker just screams of whiny crybaby when I see him on the camera. I can only imagine how much hell he'd raise if he were the 3rd or even the 4th option behind, Yao, Francis, or even possibly Mobley.

    I will say this. The people that insist on having a banger in the paint, should look no further then Cato. No trades necessary, nothing of the sort. Just someone that can grab weakside rebounds and lurk under the basket for open easy lay ins/dunks. He's also an agressive defender that can help Yao on weakside defense. While he may not be as quick as some of the starting PF's in the game today, that's when substitute matches are made. But to be blunt, as good as the PF position in the West has gotten, it's more perimeter based when ya think about it. Duncan, and Brand being the only exceptions I think.
     
  20. Oski2005

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    Kurt Thomas is a damn good forward and I would trade Cato and Taylor to get him if a deal could be worked out. Also, the Celts need a PG, one with experience starting, that's where Ward fits in.

    Damn, so many people complain about Cat, but if they saw Antoine Walker, they'd all have anurisms.
     

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