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Simmons, Brown, Herro, or Siakam?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jacoby, Dec 20, 2020.

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Who would you want to trade Harden for?

  1. Ben Simmons

  2. Jaylen Brown

  3. Tyler Herro

  4. Pascal Siakam

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  1. malakas

    malakas Member

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    I guess Brown though I am not crazy about it.

    Brown
    Herro

    Simmons

    ....

    Siakam. Actually with Siakam why not just give Harden away for free?

    I would choose the Nets package over the Siakam package and that says a lot. He's 27 for crying out loud. He has only a spinning move. DIdn't you watch the POs this season?
     
  2. jacoby

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    Yeah. I'd be thrilled if we could get Marcus Smart in Houston as well. Wall/Brown/Smart/Gordon is an excellent guard lineup.
     
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  3. JayGoogle

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    I'd take Brown. I think he fits right in to what we're doing, he's 24, athletic, defensive minded, humble young player that can grow with a promising coach and set that kind of Heat culture

    Herro is just a risk. Great rookie year, but guys have good rookie years and trail off plenty of times.

    Siakam is a nice player and it'd be a great front court with him and Wood but I don't know. If he was 23, sure but...

    Simmons...the fact the guy can't shoot, knows it, and hasn't made strides to do everything he can to fix this glaring issue is a red flag for me. I don't think he wants to be an MVP all time champion. Sounds like a guy that's content where he's at and finding shooters to put around him sounds easy but I think that's easier said than done. Teams always say "Just find guys to shoot around him." Rockets and Bucks found this is no easy task. I'd rather have a versatile team instead of just another player where the offense for him will be drive and kick over and over again. We know in the playoffs what happens. Teams clog the paint and force role players to beat them.

    For me Brown has the potential to be the more all around superstar out of all of these players and he's the kind of wing that can literally fit on any team.
     
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  4. coachbadlee

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    Which one comes with the most picks?
     
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  5. malakas

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    Yes you are right.

    Boston has Ainge and Philladelphia has Morey so from the beginning this is a huge drawback. They will only offer pupu platters.
    Especially Boston.
    In fact whoever Boston offers Stone must ask immediately for his medical records and have specialist check him out because there is a chance there is a health problem in there.
     
  6. Rudyc281

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    He's actually 26 turning 27 next year and is only one year older then CW.

    And is just entering his 5th season same season brown.
     
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  7. Zoplicone

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    You didn’t watch much Raptors playoffs last year, did you?
     
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  8. BigBum

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    My order of selection

    Brown, can shoot and defend, lower salary
    Simmons, top tier defender
    Herro and Robinson, can shoot, add salary
    Siakam, long and athletic
     
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  9. Zoplicone

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    Siakam and Wood are a nice front court pairing for the future but you’re also relying heavily on a backcourt of Wall and EG now which just sounds awful.

    I know we’re thinking long term and those two aren’t in our future plans, but I mean not sure how much that backcourt brings out of our front court
     
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  10. Rudyc281

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    Pascal is only 1 year older then wood.
    Pascal is just entering his 5th season same as brown.
    Pascal has already proven he can be the 2nd option on a championship team.
    And as the lead man he was absolutely balling after kawhi left.
    Very long 6’9 wing player.

    Could possibly be packaged with OG.
     
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  11. Rudyc281

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    Yeah and I seen the year before as well.
     
  12. Rudyc281

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    With stone he will leave no stone unturned to improve the team.
     
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  13. Furious Jam

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    I would put Simmons last. How successful can you be if your franchise guy can't shoot? He's like Draymond - a third wheel at best.
     
  14. Rudyc281

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    Also for all the people who say that pascal has peaked already.

    He won most improved player just last year.

    He isn’t done improving yet.
     
  15. snowconeman22

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    Voted brown , but maybe it’s Simmons .

    very worried about Simmons shooting , but think he is currently the better player .. and has a higher ceiling (if he learns to shoot ..even midrange)

    browns athleticism and shooting touch intrigues me . He can be a 3 point shooting demar derozan .

    Simmons having less time (missed that first season to injury) actually kinda helps him . Makes it so that maybe he hasn’t developed as much as he is going to .

    but brown has played under Stephens , has a good shot , and also has very very good physical tools .

    Herro doesn’t have enough film and we’d be buying high .

    Siakam I like , but his ceiling isn’t enough to be a main piece . Now if Toronto’s offer is OG and siakam then that frontcourt with wood is pretty damn interesting . If you hit on a good guard (either in draft or FA ) that can be a very good team in a year or two

    If Simmons had a good chance of developing even an 15-18 foot bank shot then I’d take him . But either philly has ****ed up his development or his shot is beyond fixable .
     
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    Wall
    Gordon
    OG
    Pascal
    Wood
     
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  17. malakas

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    My bad. He's 26 and will be 27 in 3.5 months.

    I don't care what season he is in, I care that he is almost 27 and he has no good offensive moves.
    Great that he improved himself so much but why should I believe that he will keep improving linerally when he is almost 27?

    Herro is almost 7 years younger than him.

    If we assume that Siakam will keep improving with the same rate then we should also assume that Herro will keep improving.
    So by the time Herro is at Siakam's age he should be a superstar.
     
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  18. Rudyc281

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    The thing I love most about spicy p is he can handle the rock at his size same as wood neither is liability with the ball in their hands and having to create their own offense and teams cannot sag off of them.
     
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  19. Rudyc281

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    Oh I’m wth you on herro he is my very close 2nd
     
  20. saleem

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    Simmons has more upside in theory than anyone, but it’s stunted because of his lack of shooting jumpers.
    Brown is the best all round player.
    Siakam comes next, followed by Herro.

    Harden must be retained, at least until the deadline. No deal for anyone right now. Hopefully none at all until next season begins.
     

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