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SI Players Poll, Mcgrady Lebron among most overrated

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by showtang043, Mar 21, 2010.

  1. showtang043

    showtang043 Member

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    The players poll by SI is really cool because it gets players an anonymous chance to say what they want. One thing I find interesting the years in and out you see players have a huge fear/respect for Kobe as he was often voted the player they were most afraid to guard yet media has their obvious preference over lebron over kobe as being the most dangerous player....

    This year Tmac was the most overrated player according to the players poll and Lebron was among the top 5:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1166070/index.htm

    interesting stuff, I always felt mvps, defensive players, all stars everyhting would be different if players and coaches had a say. They are the ones who goto battle night in and night out, and with the biases and rivalries there are enough players to get credible results outside with the writers who really aren't any more experts than us usually they just do it for a living though. I wish they would atleast get some say or vote in these awards
     
  2. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    I don't actually think anybody believes Lebron is the better offensive player between him and Kobe. Many do, however, believe Lebron is the better all around player. And when you look at his near triple double line, that's hard to argue against.
     
  3. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I agree with that list. Good calls on LA and AI2. Lebron is overrated in this sense - he hasn't won a title, he couldn't carry his team over the Magic or the Spurs (years ago), basically, he isn't the legend the media portrays him to be... not in the scope of the current NBA but all-time.
     
  4. OremLK

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    LeBron scores more points on better efficiency than Kobe. So yes, he's the better offensive player right now. Anybody who thinks otherwise is just buying into the NBA's hype machine about Kobe, which is on overdrive 24/7.
     
  5. Melechesh

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    I agree with LeBron, T-Mac, Aldridge, Iggy being overrated.
     
  6. BEAT LA

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    Jason Kidd is overrated. Wtf did he do to get in the ASG this year? What's so great about this guys career? He is a fantasy league pro. That's it.

    Be honest, who would you rather take the last shot of the game, LeBron or Kobe?
     
  7. Melechesh

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    LeBron's lack of a go-to move would really hurt him in the playoffs. Imo he needs to develop a post up game or the Cavs will still have problem against Orlando.
     
  8. LCII

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    Alridge is sooo overrated...can't believe portland gave him that albatross contract. Juwan Howard 2.0.
     
  9. LCII

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    he only took a crap Nets team to the Finals for a couple of years, other than that, he's a total scrub.
     
  10. Tesla

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    Wow, 3%. I wonder how many of that 3% are simply jealous of him.
     
  11. apollo33

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    probably 2% kobe fans, 1% people like me that actually thinks hes overatted
     
  12. Kate81

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    I would say LeBron is overrated and T-Mac is more underachieved than overrated.
     
  13. OremLK

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    I would rather not need a go to shot. I would rather walk off the court with the ball lying on the floor while the final seconds tick down. LeBron gives me the best chance to do that.

    I also agree with Daryl Morey when he says that they as a front office don't make any decisions based on belief in "clutchness".
     
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  14. Hydhypedplaya

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    Good point....repped
     
  15. Dei

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    Can the players vote on their teammates?
     
  16. StacyMcGrady3

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    appreciate this post. interesting read...
     
  17. Invisible Fan

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    At 24 yrs old, the man is freakish.
     
  18. MambaJoe

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    The reason why Lebron doesn't really have a real go to move like Kobe and such is because he isn't that great of a basketball player like Jordan, Bird, Magic, and Kobe. But the reason why he gets his points is because his team is built for him to score more and have more assist.

    Notice that Lebron handles the ball and make the decision with it most of the time. But I must admit, Lebron is a heck of a player and he's probably the greatest athlete in the history of the NBA but not the greatest basketball player. His game is based on a few dribbles and then charges towards the goal and the opponent either gets run over or have to move out of the way.

    But overall, the reason why he is overrated is because his talent level isn't as good as Kobe, Wade, or Durant but his body makes him almost unstoppable. Lebron isn't the type of player that would be feared by opponents like Kobe or Jordan.

    When Jordan or Kobe steps onto the court, the opponents would think that no matter what they do, Kobe or Jordan would still score regardless. Its because their talent level is off the roof. Kobe and Jordan both have so many go to moves and counter moves that defenders don't know where to start.

    Lebron on the other hand, if you close out the lane and have the balls to draw charges like the Rockets, then you have a chance to stop him. But most teams don't like drawing charges especially when Lebron takes off down that lane. They rather try to go up and block his dunks and it always end in a poster because Lebron is so strong and he gets up so high that its almost impossible to block him. But the Rockets are probably the only team in the league that has enough balls to get in position in time to draw a charge.

    Lebron James is a great player right now. But later down the line when his knees fails on him due to his high flying style of play, a major knee injury is waiting to happen. Once that takes a toll on him, what part of his game would he rely on? He can no longer rush down the lane and hoping to out jump his opponents. He doesn't have the lethal post game like Kobe. He doesn't have the fluid shooting touch like Durant. And he isn't crafty like Wade.

    When Jordan got older, he wasn't as athletic like he was in his younger years. But he was still unstoppable. His post game became untouchable. His game had gotten more polish and he became a better player. That is because he was such as great basketball player with so much talents. Lebron doesn't have that to fall back into. Lebron's game is basically blow by his defenders and try to out jump everyone to score.

    I think that when Lebron loses his athletic abilities, he would be more of a facilitator and he would no longer be the high scoring machine like he was. I think that the only game he can rely on is his passing abilities. Something kind of like Tmac who lost all his athletic abilities but he still had his great distribution skills. But Tmac still has series of moves to rely on, just not his athletic abilities.
     
  19. BEAT LA

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    You know what, I agree. LeBron is the better player, Kobe is lucky when it comes down to last second jumpers.
     
  20. BEAT LA

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    In a crappy Eastern conference that sucked for many years.
     

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