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[SI: Peter King] Good read on Carr

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Phil, Aug 9, 2006.

  1. Phil

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    This is a great read for any Texans fan that can't wait to turn around last season under our new regime.

    One thing that bothered me about the article, though, is how King didn't even mention Andre Johnson or Eric Moulds when writing about Carr needing another offensive weapon. I love Peter King as a writer, so I'm surprised he missed that...but I think those points were probably left out to make passing on Reggie Bush sound even worse.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/08/06/mmqb/1.html

    HOUSTON -- This is why Gary Kubiak is the best thing that ever happened to David Carr:

    The other day, Carr threw a pass into a coverage scheme that he and Kubiak knew right away was the wrong pass at the wrong time. Terrible decision. Instead of soft-pedaling his criticism, which is the way Carr has been treated for four years as the Disappointing Golden Boy of Houston football, Kubiak offered this gem: "You've been in the league four years and you make that throw? There is no way you can make a throw into coverage like that!''

    You've got to love a coach who does not come in and kiss the franchise quarterback's heinie, because smooching is not what Carr needs.

    "David can't assume, 'I'm OK, we've just got to fix the stuff around me,''' Kubiak told me after a Texans practice, sounding Parcellsian. "He's not OK. He's a long way from being OK.''

    In pro football -- and probably in all of sports -- some guys need to have buttons pushed and some guys need to be treated with kid gloves. Most not only should have buttons pushed; most need buttons pushed. Carr is definitely one who wants and needs to be coached. He is no prima donna and he wants to be around people who will make him better. To him, those aren't just words. And with Kubiak and offensive coordinator Troy Calhoun micromanaging his every move, there's no doubt in my mind Carr's going to be a better player this year. Will he be a franchise quarterback? I don't know. No one does. I have my doubts. He's got to do it under pressure. He's going to have a chance, even though I think the Texans should have taken Reggie Bush instead of Mario Williams with the first pick in the draft because Carr desperately needs another offensive weapon.

    Last Thursday, the day I watched Carr run Houston's talent-shy first-team offense, Kubiak was standing downfield, watching Carr's mechanics closely. Every so often he'd see something, amble up and say something to Carr, then go back and resume watching him from afar.

    It's so fascinating why Kubiak was doing this.

    Last winter, when Kubiak sat down to study every game Carr played last year, he noticed something fatal to quarterbacking success: When Carr faded back to throw, he consistently looked to the side of the field that was his first option. Imagine how crucial this is. If you're a safety and you've scouted Carr from the end-zone coaches' tape that every team sees, and you've seen that you can figure out the side of the field he's trying to throw to the second he begins his pass drop, wouldn't that be a huge advantage? When Kubiak first sat down with Carr to watch tape, he said, in so many words: Are you kidding me? You're an NFL quarterback, and you telegraph your throws so blatantly? So on this day, in this practice, Kubiak watched Carr take his drop and watched his eyes as much as his arm. He watched to make sure Carr was surveying the entire field on his drop, not just half of it.

    Kubiak, 44, was a quarterback at Texas A&M years ago and has a lot of tough Texan in him. He was in Mike Shanahan's shadow forever -- for a year in San Francisco and 10 years in Denver -- so no one knows much about him. Complex he's not. Thorough he is. Very thorough. He's got a winning personality, but it can bite. He's not afraid of anyone and he doesn't let the little things slide. When he took this job, he told Carr, "Don't take it personal, but I can get real mad at quarterbacks.''

    He didn't get mad the other day, but he got his point across. Carr was making progress in not boring a hole through his receivers when he dropped back from center. Kubiak worked with Carr during the offseason on slowing his frenetic pass drop and making him survey the field when he stepped back from center. Don't be in such a rush, Kubiak told him. See the entire field.

    "Today I wanted to watch his eyes when he dropped back, because that's what he's struggled with,'' Kubiak said. "He's got [offensive coordinator ] Troy [Calhoun] with him at the line of scrimmage, then me downfield. David is really getting coached on every play.''

    Ask those close to Carr, and they'll tell you he likes how he's being coached, particularly the maddening attention to detail. Ask Carr, and he sounds like a guy who really thinks he has a chance now, even though Bush isn't here to salvage a very troubled offensive backfield.

    "I guess a coach can have two different philosophies,'' Carr said. He's now had two coaches in the NFL -- Dom Capers and Kubiak. "Dom's philosophy was, You're the quarterback -- you're the guy -- and we're going to surround you with everything we can to help you win. But he was a defensive coach, so he really couldn't give me any coaching points. That was left to the offensive assistants. Gary's philosophy is very hands-on with his quarterback. He demands perfection. His confidence in me has never wavered, but he also isn't afraid to call me out, which I think is good for me. It makes me feel more like I'm one of the guys.''

    The other thing about Kubiak's impact on Carr is that he has told Carr he'll have competition for his job. Those are hollow words, you say, when the competition is Sage Rosenfels. But hold on. Rosenfels is a smart guy with a better arm than you think. Phil Simms calls him "the most underrated guy in free agency this year.'' Watching him inside the Texans' bubble the other day, Rosenfels threw hard and accurately. He should give the Texans a backup they'll be more comfortable throwing in there than Tony Banks or Dave Ragone. Clearly, though, if Carr goes down for any length of time, the Houston offense will likely go down with him. "A quarterback who can push David will help him,'' Kubiak said.

    I still think Bush could have helped more. And now the Texans don't know if running back Domanick Davis' surgically repaired knee will be well enough for him to compete for his old starting job. Davis said the knee still hurts, and he has gotten a second opinion on why he doesn't feel right. There's no structural damage, but the Texans have kept him off the field for the most part in camp. Without Davis, Kubiak will turn to a mishmash of recycled and unproven and rookie backs, including Antowain Smith, Vernand Morency and surprising sixth-round pick Wali Lundy, who scored 52 career touchdowns at Virginia.

    "Any regrets,'' I asked Kubiak, knowing full well the answer I'd get, "about passing on Bush, seeing all the problems you're having in the offensive backfield?''

    "No,'' he said. "We did the right thing for our football team. We're not one player away, and we needed to start building a foundation on defense.''

    Fair enough. We'll see if the Texans were right. I do agree that Bush would have gotten chewed up a good deal by defenses focusing on him because of the lack of other respected offensive weapons. But now Carr can do something about that himself. Let's see if he can.

    "I guarantee Gary will have David go into the game on Sunday more confident about the game than he's ever been in his life,'' new Texans GM Rick Smith told me. "They'll massage the offensive game plan during the week and he'll feel great about what they're going to be doing by Sunday.''
     
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  2. kaleidosky

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    solid read, although there has been something similar on ESPN. The thing that at least I didn't know about was that D Davis may not even be well enough to handle the starting job... that's huge if it comes to that..
     
  3. DaDakota

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    What? You mean someone else thinks that Carr sucks?

    :D

    DD
     
  4. ima_drummer2k

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    Looking back, it's boggles my mind that an expansion team would take a QB at #1....and then give him an offensive mastermind like Dom Capers to 'tutor' him.

    Don't get me wrong, I appreciate everything Dom did for us while he was here, but coaching Carr was not one of them. We should have had someone here to coach up Carr from Day 1.

    Oh well. 5 years too late is better than never.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Unless the shell shock has hurt his confidence beyond repair.

    DD
     
  6. Plowman

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    I agree,hopefully we'll see the guy that stepped up in the pocket,gunning the ball 60 yards to a receiver instride(of course it was dropped)during the inaugural game.
     
  7. Stack24

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    Great read but he definietly decided to just brush Andre Johnson and Eric Moulds off. I consider them very good offensive weapons.
     
  8. KMC1499

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    While i think it was a good read, im getting tired of the "should have drafted Bush" crap. Can these people let it go already! And whats up with the "talent shy" part. OK i take my previous statement back, i dont like the article. Dude skips out on most of the inprovements we made on offence and didnt realize that the backfield wasnt the problem.
     
  9. stevel

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    Also, don't underestimate having a legit pass catching TE (Putzier) and FB (Cook) as well. This will also go a long way towards opening up the offense. People forget that beyond the big 3 in Dallas they also had Novacek and Johnson. They were a big part of what Dallas did back then.
     
  10. pgabriel

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    I hope everyone underrates andre this season. I think that dude has the potential to be the best receiver in the league. all he has to do is get some help, which he has in moulds, and eliminate the occassional drop, which really isn't even that big of a problem.
     
  11. JayZ750

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    Will football season start already....argh!
     
  12. Nick

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    I found this part quite funny...

    Apparently, Kubiak doesn't realize how far the extent of the worst offensive line in football (likely in the last 15 years) reaches... its not like Carr had a frenetic drop back during college, and just magically decide to implement it in the pros.

    Carr's progression is a problem... and the fact that he developed into a QB who telegraphed his passes, and couldn't read coverage is just as big of an implication against the previous regime and the surrounding cast, as it is against Carr.

    If the offensive line improves, and he's still making the same mistakes... then by all means start penciling in the drive Brady Quinn in 07. But, I'm still going to give him some benefit of the doubt mainly due to how the team never addressed the line, and how they completely changed the offense into some dink and dunk monstrosity (which was terribly easy for defenses to adjust to).
     
  13. Nick

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    I'm worried about that as well. The guy had tons of confidence during college, and the inaguaral year, and never backed down... but as the line deteriorated year after year, so did Carr.

    If Carr gets to routinely drop back... AND survey the field... on most of his pass attempts, and he's missing guys by 30 yards or getting picked off... then it will be pretty evident.
     
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    Considering we picked up Carr's gigantic option in his contract and the fact that we passed on 3 legit NFL QBs in Young, Leinart, and Cutler, I'd say that we're not drafting a quarterback anytime soon.
     
  15. Nick

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    Quinn might have been more NFL ready than all three of them had he come out this year. Hell, with his head coach, he already essentially knows the playbook that won the Patriots 3 super bowls.
     
  16. MadMax

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    i think that depends entirely on how carr performs this season.
     
  17. Phil

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    i can't imagine the texans drafting <i>another</i> quarterback as early as next season... we are stuck w/ carr (for better or worse) for a while. i think he will prove to be a solid quarterback in this league and under kubes' leadership.

    relying on another rookie QB is pretty much unacceptable for a franchise that no longer wants to be in "rebuilding" mode. if carr is absolutely terrible, i could see the texans going after FA's or some kind of trade...but drafting a guy like brady quinn...man, i don't even want to imagine something like that.
     
  18. MadMax

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    I disagree. The Denver approach is not to worry about how much money the guy makes or what his contract status is. You bring in the guy you think gives you the best chance to win. If Carr, in year 5, still hasn't put it together in the sense of showing real progress...particularly when some of the other contributing factors are minimized...then I think the Texans will absolutely look at a QB, given the space of the draft. Frankly, they have no real QB talent on this roster, outside of Carr.

    that doesn't mean they won't also pursue in free agency.
     
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    Peter King's articles aggravate me.

    That is all.
     

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