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Should We Keep The Core of This Team Together?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rvpals, Apr 4, 2004.

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Should We Keep The Core of This Team Together?

  1. Yes

    90 vote(s)
    21.1%
  2. No

    293 vote(s)
    68.6%
  3. Not sure (still need more time to decide)

    44 vote(s)
    10.3%
  1. rvpals

    rvpals Member

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    Since this team has almost a whole season under their belt, (you can say this team now already had a whole season to jell), I think it's a long enough time to come to conclusion.

    I just want to know do you guys think this team is going to become a championship contending team some day? Or this team simply does not work at all and we need to make major roster change this summer?

    After watching Rockets games this season, this team is still a mystery to me because sometimes they play like the best team in the league (talentwise, I think Rox are right there on the top of list), sometimes they play worse than the some of the worst college teams. (Clueless).

    I personally think we need to make a major roster overhaul. We lack dependable offensive power and the engine oil to make everything run smoothly, someone like Jason Kidd.

    The Core of the Rox = Yao, Francis, Cutino, Cato, JJ
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    No,

    They don't compliment each other.

    Yao should be the focus, and we need steadier players who compliment him.

    Actually, JVG is part of the problem. We have guys on the bench who play well with Yao, Boki, Pike, Padgett etc...who never get a lick of PT.

    DD
     
  3. Rocket River

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    Trade Francis and Mobley for Allan houston

    Rocket River
     
  4. Summer Song Giver

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    Right now I don't like anyone on our roster.
     
  5. Raven

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    What core? I mean really. Of the Rockets largest contracts, only YM, SF, and CM could be traded easily. Cato and MT are core players, because the Rockets don't have any choice but to play them, since they're stuck with them anyway. You can add Spoon to that list.

    What you really are asking (I think) is whether SF should be traded, and I think the answer to that is yes, and if the Rockets can find a team willing to take on Cato's or MT's contracts, without having to take bad contracts in return, they should (and would) jump all over that, as well.

    This is a team in transition. The Rockets you see today won't look anything at all like the Rockets team in 4 years, when YM is in his prime, hopefully winning two or tree championships in a row.

    I predict that the only Rocket on the 07/08 team that's also on this years team (03/04) will be Yao Ming.

    And maybe Boki, since Yao needs a parter to play Warcraft 3 with :D

    Raven
     
  6. bigballerj

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    Keep Yao, JJ, and maybe Cat if you can move him to the 6th man role. Everyone else is not off limits for trading purposes.
     
  7. qian

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    Keep soon too. we need his blue-collar hard work.
     
  8. qian

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    sorry, I mean keep Spoon
     
  9. SmeggySmeg

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    nope, we need a Power forward with some grunt that can board and play D and a PG who can run a fastbreak
     
  10. Woofer

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    OK, does everyone who voted no think we should get rid of Steve Francis?
    I voted no, and I think Francis will be injury ridden like AI in a couple of years.
     
  11. rvpals

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    I don't think I'm doing another trade Francis thread. My question is simply after watching almost a whole season of games, I just don't see good chemistry and a sense of team identity consistently, maybe we need to do a major roster change. Francis is not our only problem. Rox got a lot of things to work on before they can become a championship caliber team.

    There's some things I think Rox need to address this summer:
    1. Finding a dependable point guard that can shoot the outside shot and run the fast break.
    2. Better small forward that can shoot and spread the floor.
    3. Strengthening PF spot with a guy can both score and defend, someone like Rasheed Wallace or Tim Duncan
    4. Yao needs to get his minutes up next season, it's painful to see him dominate for seven minutes then get winded. He also needs to learn more from Patrick Ewing and the other old guys to learn not to foul and Learn how to get calls his way.
    5. Francis needs to shoot 1000 jump shots everyday.
    6. JVG needs to hire an offensive coordinator or some sort. We need some kind of offensive game plan.
     
  12. LegendZ3

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    Actually if you look at our roster, only 6 players have stay with the Rockets for 2 years or more: SF, Cat, Mo, Yao, Cato, and Boki: they are nither untradeble or too valueble to move. Rest of team were either been traded away or been cut. So JVG did make a statement, I'm looking for more moves by JVG during the summer.
     
  13. DavidS

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    That's all well and good. But the main issue for the Rox is figuring out who our CORE players are. End of story.

    Think of it this way. Let's use the Lakers as an example...

    What difference does it make if you started Fisher or Fox, Devean George or Robert Horry. In the end, if you don't have Shaq on that team, the team goes NOWHERE.

    Take the Bulls of the 90's. BJ Armstong or Derrick Harper? Scott_Burrell or Toni_Kukoc? Luc Longly or Bill Bill_Wennington? Without Jordan, don't even think about building a championship caliber team.

    We can spend all day talking about getting a better power forward, or a back up shooting guard, or a 3-pt shooting small forward...in the end, our star CORE GROUP has to carry the team. Without them, everything else is pointless to discuss. I mean at least lets figure out who our leader is, then we can talk about getting the right role players on this team.

    So, someone tell me. Who is "the man" on this team? Who is the "leader?" Francis needs to be traded or Yao needs to take control of this team. And I don't mean, keep Francis happy with his fake "Franchise" title. I mean really make it clear that this is Yao's team. Publicly. And if Yao doesn't want to be the leader then we can bring in another star (traded for Francis) to play along side of him.

    I don't know about you guys but I'm geting sick and tired of watching turnover after turnover after turnover.

    By the way, let me redefine what "core group" means to me = Yao and Francis

    Cat and JJ are next in the pecking order. But they are still just role players. Good ones, but still role players. Yao and Francis are the "core group."
     
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  14. Rocket River

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    I'm sick and tire of BAMing rocket fans

    I'm sick and tired of no one getting a d*mn REbound on the offensive board

    I'm sick and tired of no one DUNKING THE D*MN ball

    No lay up . . on BOTH ENDS

    Ram the ball down . . stop looking for fouls . . cause we not getting them

    I'm sick and tired of watching one sided calls


    Rocket River
    one thing I'm not sick and tired of is. . . . . THE ROCKETS!
    GO ROCKETS
     
  15. Char

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    no, Allan Houston is that kind of player whose ambition is scoring 20 points per game and go home. Otherwise, for his calibre, he should go to a title-contender team.
     
  16. Char

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    I just hope Francise can improve himself to a real PG this summer.
    Otherwise, end of story. His current style is not suitable for Yao, not even for JVG's team play style.
     
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    See signature.
     
  18. lilrooster

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    Someone please answer this question. When will Nachbar ever get off the bench? We could have had Tayshaun Prince who is a much better player, but the Rocket wanted to fill their quota of drafting unproven foreign players.
     
  19. yipengzhao

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    i like that. marbury and francis in the same backcourt.

    studogg came up with that one didn't he?
     
  20. Life2Def

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    What makes you think that? A.I is a skinny tooth pick who gets hurt because he doesn't have the build to constantly be colliding into the big men in the paint but does it any way and gets hurt doing it. Steve on the other hand is much bigger and stronger than A.I and takes the contact with ease.
     

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