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Should we go back to check out Hudson?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by canoner2002, Jul 7, 2004.

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  1. canoner2002

    canoner2002 Contributing Member

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    It seems Spurs are going to lose both Hedo and Manu, and maybe Bowen. they probably will go after Barry and they can offer much more.

    Haven't heard anything from Fisher side for a long time.

    Twolves offered $18M / 5year to Hudson. That seems to be pretty low this summer. Shall we go back and look at this option?
     
  2. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    i would rather try to get bowen if he won't re-sign with the spurs.
     
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    canoner2002 Contributing Member

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    Can Bowen play pg? Don't think so.
    We need a starting pg!
    BTW, has Boki ever played pg? Maybe Boki/Tmac/JJ will have enough ball handeling?
     
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    NOOOO..... at some point I'm sure somebody uttered maybe SF/CAT/JJ will have enough ball handling.
     
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    bowen?? are you nuts, he is not a pg. i wouldn't mind having hudson if fisher and barry aren't available.
     
  6. canoner2002

    canoner2002 Contributing Member

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    Do we really need a textbook pg? we don't need someone who dribbles the ball as well as SF. Just bring to ball up, give it to Tmac, and let him and Yao do their things, and wait for open shots. Both JJ and Boki can bring the ball up, and both are decent shooters. If Boki matures a little bit and get consistent with his jumpers, he will be close to Barry, as far as how we can use him.
     
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    you are 100% correct. bowen has never played PG. and u are also correct when you say we need a starting PG. my point was that we could use bowen to play his natural position...SF.


    we can afford to add more than one player this summer. we can sign someone to the MLE and do a S&T for the TE. we also have the million dollar exception.
     
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    So how do you plan to get Bowen without using the MLE or the TE or the million dollar exception?
     
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    i would plan to get him by using either the MLE or the TE. whatever we have left after finding a PG.

    then we could still sign a guy like collier for the million dollar exception.

    yao-collier
    howard-mo-spoon
    bowen-boki
    tmac-jj
    barry-lue

    this line-up is very doable for next year.
     
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    Using TE to sign Bowen is not easy. Spurs won't help you, period, even you throw them a future 1st rounder (which is not worth much to start with).

    If you go through another team, they have to sign Bowen, keep him for 3 month, and then trade him to us for the TE. I am not sure whether the TE will expire or not by then. AND, teams don't like to do it because they don't want their capspace to be tied up on Bowen for three months. They want to get FA's for themselves.

    Basically, I think we will use MLE to get a FA, and use TE to acquire an existing contract from other team. But I don't think TE will be used in a s&t. It is just hard in an environment like this summer.
     
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    i agree, but the spurs way be willing to part with him more what you think...they are after kobe and are letting their FA's walk so they can have more cap space.



    hedo signed a crazy deal. they obviously dont want to match that. but when manu is let go, that shows you something. sure they can still match, but they will wait and see what happens with kobe first.
     
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    I don't think the Rockets are very enthusiasitc about Hudson. When they were interviewing the Agent for Hudson, it didn't seem like the Rockets were very interested in Hudson. Maybe the injury is worse than the Hudson camp is letting on; and the Rockets know this.

    Either way I think the Rockets want Barry and will go after fisher with the second choice. The Arroyo situation may come back to bite the Rockets in the butt, because, they'd have to offer more than what the Jazz are willing to pay. And since teams are offering so much to the FA, the Jazz may sign him just to trade him and get something for him.
     
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    They can simply let Bowen walk if they want more cap space (they already has a lot of that). Why would they want to help us through a s&t? Only thing they can gain is a future pick which worth little. That little gain is not worth helping their divisional rival get better!
     
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    I just dont like the idea of signing Brent Barry for 24M/4yrs. Is there any way we can use the same amount of money to sign both Fisher and Arroyo??? Am i too greedy??? :D
     
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    Too greedy? That is an understatement.
     
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    My concern is his height and poor shooting.
     
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    He's 6'2 and shoots 44% from the field. He's also just 25 and only started for 1 year so he can get better.

    Other than Barry, he's about average height and above average shooter. He's not the greatest defensive player but is better than Barry and most importantly, younger and cheaper.

    He doesn't have the greatest range but Utah didn't have Yao or McGrady to create wide open opportunities either.
     
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    if we use the TE on, lets say, barry....this would be in seattles favor because they would get something in return. that would leave the MLE for bowen and sa would have no say in where he goes.
     
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    6-2 is short even for a pg. He will have trouble feeding Yao the ball.

    I hope his 3-pt shooting can be better with Yao and Tmac creating open shots for him, but that is unknown. On the other hand, Barry didn't have Yao or Tmac to creat open shots for him, but he still sank a lot of triples. I would feel much more comfortable with Barry's shooting.
     

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