Should the Iranian President be Allowed to Visit Ground Zero?

what if some of the families believed it was?

 

If we didn't let him visit, we'd be stooping to his level. Let him go where he wishes.

 

YES.

But make sure to have a sniper on a nearby building and take him out.

 

I don't see why not, if he gets permission to come visit the u.s.a. legally then I don't have a problem with him visiting ground zero even though I think the guy is an insane douchbag. It's a free place to visit, we would be stooping to his level by saying no.

Hopefully he visits one of the holocaust camps in germany, open his eyes a bit to reality.

And who knows, maybe some group will g*ngbang him. Or we can hold a rally the same day and 'accidently' trample him. Nah thats wrong, I'm sorry.

 

Sure, it's good form on our part. He's nobody's favorite guy, but if he initiated a sincere desire to visit the site of the tragedy let him. Let's hope that in some small way it has a positive effect on his view of things.

 

Do we have diplomatic relations with his government? No. Would we let Castro, were he healthy enough, do the same thing? If the answer is no, then this guy shouldn't be allowed to. Having said that, I'll add this... I personally think we should have diplomatic relations with both countries, but our government won't allow it with Cuba, and Iran, for all practical purposes, won't allow it with the States. He is going to use a refusal as political ammunition. Tell the guy he can go, but without a police escort or escort of any kind, and if he gets out of the car he can look at the site the same way my family and I did the summer before last. Walk around like a normal person. Might do him some good.




D&D. Impeach Bush and Jenna.

 

It does no harm to take the high road, and show good form by letting him visit it.

I don't see what political advantage he gets by asking to go and see the site. I do see what political advantage we get by giving him a tour and making very real to him the loss our nation and so many families felt that day.

 

right now the only thing he has to rub in our face is him not being allowed to visit. If he's allowed to visit then he has zero to rub in our faces.

Poor NewYorker, everyone on the board picks on you huh? Please stop playing the pity card. I don't think it will work around too much. I probably don't take the high road as much as I should, but I do take it far more than is necessary.

But even if I never took the highroad What kind of weight should I give your your moral lectures considering that you've lied about your race, admit that you like to experiment, and choose positions based on plenty of things other than your personal conviction?

That isn't an insult either. You are free to carry on that way since it seems to be what you enjoy. It means little to me, but given those facts I'm sure you understand why your words on these matters mean so little. If you choose to carry on in that manner then surely you expect people to react accordingly.

 

A great idea.....just take him out, and then feign a global search.



DD

 

He did try this before.

Anybody else remember when he made a big deal about comming to speak at the UN, and we'll see if the Americans try to stop us, and then when he actually got the visas, suddently and quietly he decided not to come and actually made up excuses that turned out to be false?

Before:
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200709/INT20070918b.html

After:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/23/iran.nuclear/index.html

 

There's some kind of circular logic going on here. You don't want him to come because its a publicity stunt. It's a publicity stunt because it's going to attract a lot of protests and harsh reactions from the crowd. You want to be part of that crowd.

It's only a controversy as long as you let it be controversial. Simple solution -- let him visit the site, ignore him, and encourage everyone else to do the same.

 

Two rules:

1. No Photos

2. If he smirks, snipe him

 

I would let him visit Ground Zero if he agreed to spend the rest of the day touring the Holocaust Museum. He can go show his concern for all the Jews that were murdered at that imaginary Auschwitz camp that everyone's lying about.

 

What the heck are you talking about? Are you claiming I feel camaraderie with the Iranian president? That has to be a joke.

My background? What do you know of my background? If there is something there that links me in any way to the Iranian president please tell me because I can't for the life of me think of anything.

I didn't give you any personal insult. I even made sure to point out that it wasn't personal insult. New Yorker, I'm sorry if you have difficulty understanding that even on a bbs your actions will affect how others see you, and how seriously they take your arguments. I didn't say anything in my post that didn't initially come from you.

I'm not defending his "right" to visit ground zero. I don't think it is a right. I'm saying we should let him.

Ottomaton is correct. Call his bluff and take away any ammo he has for political gain.