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Should Religions Change

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Feb 5, 2005.

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Should Religions Change

  1. Yes - Go with the Flow

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  2. No - the Truth is the Truth

    11 vote(s)
    29.7%
  3. Some - everything needs updating

    7 vote(s)
    18.9%
  4. It is just a tool to control people so it doesn't matter

    15 vote(s)
    40.5%
  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    Should Religions Change or is the TRUTH the TRUTH

    Different interpretation etc .. seem nothing
    more than religion changing to meet the modern mentality
    more and more religions are nothing more than
    justification for anything anyone wants to do or say
    they
    just say . . . . .well it is a RE or MORE Accurate interpretation

    Like I watch a special on Da Vinci Code
    all the folx complained about a conspiracy, agenda or
    bias of the priest of the time .. .
    my problem with it
    everyone speaking had an agenda of their own . . .a bias

    So for me. . the more it changes the less I
    tend to 'follow them'

    I am Spiritual
    but
    religions just confuse and divide to me. . .
    it is more of a tool for less noble things
    [maybe it always was. . and maybe my eyes are just now opening]


    Rocket River
     
  2. MR. MEOWGI

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    Decay is inherent in all component things.
     
  3. Grizzled

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    This is a tough one because IMO the answer is yes and no.

    The worship of the Father, the father of Christ, has changed greatly throughout history, and throughout the course of the Bible. First it was mostly about tribal customs and lineage. Then came the law and the 10 commandments. Then Christ came to earth and we were to live by the New Covenant. Yet none of these things negated what came before, they just completed them, or added another level of understanding.

    OTOH, there are changes that are not consistent with previous beliefs. It’s very hard to reconcile any kind of intolerance with Christian principles, for example, and yet this is, IMO, a common corruption today.

    Did you have anything specific in mind?
     
  4. Rocket River

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    Not really. .. but i do like your explaination
    building upon previous learnings.
    however. . . some of the previous learnings

    I remember Eye for and Eye
    and
    Wives OBEY your husbands. . .etc
    these have been . . . softened a bit

    Rocket River
     
  5. twhy77

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    The question needs clarification I think.

    Is this for doctrines? They develop more than they "change". It also regards what a doctrine is about. If it's part of the ceremony of Mass, like say, when to sing what and speak what, those things tend to change. Like for instance, the vernacular being introduced into the Mass via Vatican II. But, if it's a doctrine on Christ, those develop, but don't contradict...they can't contradict for the Catholic, for Christ is was and will ever be the same...(there is a debate about the moment of Incarnation, i.e. God's unfolding or Kenosis but that's way over my head at this point).
     
  6. No Worries

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    Maybe yes. Maybe no. :)

    Religions do change. The people who do not like those changes also probably think that the religion that they were taught a child should not change.
     
  7. Grizzled

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    Well, strictly speaking those things may be part of the ideal, but as imperfect human being we are much less than the ideal. Remember the law was brought to show us that we all fall short. Since we are not perfect we can’t judge others for being imperfect, (which is not the same as enforcing laws in a humane way. I can elaborate on this point if you’d like me to.) “Let he who is sinless cast the first stone!” kind of tells the story. If people had a choice to be sinless, then maybe the enforcement of the OT would be a just thing for man to do. But we don’t. No one is sinless, so Jesus came to show us a different way of attaining justification, through by grace through faith, not by works. He also warns us against judging others (Romans 2), and tells us to live by the Spirit, not the law. Note that this is even mentioned in the OT. Hosea 6:6, “For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.”

    This doesn’t negate the law, however. The law is still there, but it’s understood differently. It shows us that we can’t do it alone and we need, by way of a personal relationship, to humbly turn to God our Father for help. The Father and child imagery is very appropriate. (duh! ;))

    (And remember that as well as leading the wife the husband was to be completely respectful of his wife and take care of her needs. He must love her as he loves himself, and he must respect and love himself, and her, as creations of God. So if a man was sinless and was able to do this and make all the genuinely right decision for his wife, I’m sure she wouldn’t mind. Man is not perfect, however, and no man alive can live up to this responsibility. Therefore, we can’t ask, and wouldn’t want to ask, our wives to blindly obey us. We’re not that good. We’re can’t live up to that responsibility.)
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    These are good points. I think the religion should change as people's understanding change. As we study learn more, understand more, strive to grow within the religion, it is natural that our unstanding of God will change, though God hasn't necessarily changed.
     
  9. ROCKSS

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    The Bible has not changed. Man`s interpitation of it has, and thus I dont put alot of stock into man made Doctrines. The Church is always looking to get more people to hear the Word of God and some will water it down or tell people what they want to hear in order to keep their congregation growing. I want my Pastor to stick with the Bible and not put his "twist" on certain passages to try and get "his" point of view across. Give it to me straight, I can handle the truth ;)
     

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