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Should minorities arm themselves to defend against rising right wing hate?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Oct 28, 2018.

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Should minorities obtain and learn to use firearms to defend against rising hate?

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    Also what's the line for shooting someone? In FL seems pretty lose. If someone approaches me and yells a racial epitaph does that give me the right to shoot them because it's clear that there is a high probability they will be violence and given what we are seeing it's very possible they have a gun.

    This is a serious question.
     
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    It needs to happen. Theres no better way to get the right to finally look af some gun control legislation.
     
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    If they feel the need to, why not? That said, anyone who plans on carrying needs to realize the burden they are choosing to put on themselves and the potential danger they could be in if they don't know how to act in certain situations.

    It's one of the many reasons I don't carry in public, aside from the obvious....that I don't feel the need to.

    That said, it's a right for all Americans, why should "minorities" be any different?
     
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    Good god almighty. Absolutely not. We are not that country.
     
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    Many Jewish and Black leaders are calling for just this. I think you have to consider that this is a real threat and it is getting worse. The rise in violence is disturbing and the President, politicians, and other groups are doing nothing to stem the tide but instead stoking the flames for political reasons.

    It's getting worse, not better.
     
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    I haven't seen any credible "leaders" calling for that.
     
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    The NYTimes page appears and then disappears on my iPad, for some reason. If a Rabbi has a permit to carry a gun, I certainly don't care if he does, but a general call for minorities to "arm themselves?" I'm against it. That would play into the hands of the extremists and only increase violence and chaos. The borough president is a former cop, so I don't care if he does, either. I'm against a general "call to arms," which is how I interpreted you headline.
     
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    I can understand your perspective, but the uptick in violence against Jews and minorities is alarming. I am telling you it is more widespread. A month ago a guy in a pick-up truck ran a light and almost hit my sister. He stopped his truck and rolled his window and said, "I did that intentionally you **** [racial epitaph]" - she was shaken from the experience.

    I am hearing from people I know - friends and family - are saying they are getting more intimidations and encounters as well. It's on the rise. These are dangerous times and I think you can't criticize when you are not a target.
     
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    everyone should defend themselves, but I highly doubt the epidemic of right wing people targeting isn’t any more or any less then it’s always been. Not a huge worry then jjst any dangerous person in general.

    But I see more violence from the left then the right. You seen antifa?.

    I think black people should worry about there number one killer and that’s other black people. Arm innocent civilians in Chicago.
     
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    Yes, yes we should. Crazy people out there.
     
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    Better be armed regardless.
     
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    Thias thread represents the disconnect in gun control talk cause of the media.

    If you're a black person in Chicago and other rust belt ghettos you need to worry about young black males with guns.

    Not 200 people in a year die from mass shootings. A black on black shooting is a daily occurrence
     
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    Absolutely they should, watch how fast gun control laws become popular with angry old white people then.

    DD
     
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    That was chappelle's joke. Once Black people start arming themselves they will vote to ban guns.
     
  19. Senator

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    .... hate to break it to you

    Homicide Rates

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    Compared to the national average, the homicide rate was 54% lower for whites, 14% lower for Hispanics, and 267% higher for blacks. Put another way, the homicide rate among African-Americans is nearly quadruple that of the national average.
     
  20. Air Langhi

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    Homicide rate = Gun Ownership?

    http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2017/06/22/the-demographics-of-gun-ownership/

    Gun ownership is lower for black people.

    Don't worry black on black on white murder rate is only 19%. So the vast majority of people killed by black people is other black people. So white people don't have to worry about a black person killing them. You only need to worry about getting murdered if you are black, and most of that is concentrated in a few violent areas.
     

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