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Should Lin play PG full time or be replaced?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lucky Charm, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. Karolik

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    Fatigue and Coaching are my guess as the MAIN reasons for the losing streak. Fatigue because of the schedule. Coaching because teams have learned to adjust to our "gimmick offense" and we have not adjusted back, or if we have it has failed terribly. Even Lin said that teams are now "reading" what we are doing. Player performance is also a factor, however, I think that is a indirect result of fatigue and simply teams knowing how to play defense against them. It is NOT because we stopped letting Lin "play PG". Our coaching staff has shown a rather stubborn tendency to go with what works, and I doubt they would change anything in the middle of a winning streak.
     
  2. Karolik

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    NO, NO, just stop. If Sampson really had that much say and loved TD that much, TD would be getting minutes right now. Last I checked he is rotting on the bench DNP.

    Smh...
     
  3. tor.rocks

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    Yea he should.

    We all saw what happen with the Spur games. The guy can dominate when given the go ahead.

    I don't think he needs to dominate the ball that much though. I want to see him be aggressive. I think that's his problem. Not being aggressive with the ball. I'm not talking about driving hard into to the paint, but more like for him to just shoot the damn ball. Say "hell no" to the system and shoot some mid jumpers. Apparently he's pretty decent at them.
     
  4. kcal

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    It would, if Jeremy were actively involved in the offense, which he is not. What's ironic is that Lin's limited role is probably adding longevity to his career. He doesn't have the ball enough to risk getting the hard fouls he's so accustomed to taking.

    As far as his knee, he had a small piece of meniscus removed, IIRC. The recovery time is contingent upon how quickly the incision to perform the surgery heals, and how long it takes to regain full muscle mass, strength and coordination after a period of inactivity following surgery.

    Again, IIRC correctly, Lin returned to limited practice and drills such as light jogging very early on.

    The bottom line is that Lin is fully recuperated. That leaves the directives of the coaching staff as the main culprit in Lin's severely restricted role.

     
  5. pcheung08

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    You are kind enough to get him more rest on the bench when you ask him to say "hell no" to the system. :)
     
  6. just a word

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    That post is so biased it may have as well been fanfic. "This confirms what I've thought for a while," look, the original poster even flat out admitted that they were biased and probably looking for things to confirm their opinions.

    It's SPECULATION. I've posted this in another thread, but I may as well post it here too:

    Let me speculate about you: you're asian, and bitter about it, hate the coaches because Lin's game is already 'completely perfect' and he has no need to grow, and therefore think that any reason that Lin isn't succeeding is because of other people. Just like any reason that you're not succeeding is because of other people.

    This is speculation. It's usually wrong, even though it might be right on one or two points on accident, or it takes a little bit of truth and runs it right off the rails.

    Talk about the team as much as you like, but I highly doubt that these things about people's motivations are as 'plainly obvious' as people think. You don't know these people directly, you're not one of their confidants, or their family.
     
  7. kcal

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    I can't speak to the last half dozen or so games, as I have only watched a few minutes of each of those games. But prior to that point, TD played regularly and was the primary ballhandler when he and lin were on the floor.

    The rockets are increasingly unwatchable: completely listless, unenthused, confused. They look like zombies out there in the snippets of game play I've forced myself to watch.

    Sampson loves TD, and he clearly has Mac's ear, but Mac has the final say. Does his decision to bench TD make sense? Does his decision to try to turn lin into steve kerr make sense?

    Nothing that mac does makes sense.

     
  8. just a word

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    Wrong.

    Chris Paul had a similar injury and it took him about a year to get back to form.

    Morey had mentioned in various interviews in early Dec, like this one, that Lin's knee is finally getting near 100% (that he hadn't even hit it yet). McHale had also mentioned in post-games that Lin's knee was getting better (as in not better yet) in Dec, Lin himself has mentioned that the swelling has gotten less (not have gone away already) in a post-practice interview.

    The specific thing that Morey had tested that Lin didn't get back was deceleration, ie. slowing down. That limits hesitation moves, and turning moves. Notice how recently Lin has gone back to straight drives, or passing if he only sees curved drives available.

    Deceleration troubles makes sense, as it's related to joints coping with force, versus acceleration which is related to muscles applying force.
     
  9. M4-Nightvision

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    We already saw Jeremy Lin at pg almost the entire games against the knicks, the spurs when harden was out, and the raptor at houston.

    Now let see James Harden at pg the entire game running the team. :D

    anyone wanna see ?
     
  10. just a word

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    Just pointing out the contradiction. Are you even watching them enough to fully understand that they're unwatchable?

    For the record I've watched every single Rockets game. And TD hasn't been playing much since Beverley worked himself into the rotation.

    So whatever pull Sampson has, it hasn't been enough to get TD to play.
     
  11. kcal

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    It's not an issue of 'understanding' if they're fun to watch. I watch, and continue to as long as I can tolerate. That's usually not more than a few minutes each game.
     
  12. SuperStar

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    Are you a Knicks fan?
     
  13. LosPollosHermanos

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    You're forcing yourself to watch them because you want to see Lin play and that is all. When he doesn't you b****.

    The difference is that people here watch Rockets games for different reasons.

    GTFO seriously. I remember you posted something ridiculously anti-rockets yesterday.
     
  14. Skyhoop

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    I'm going to have to disagree with this last statement based on what we all saw with you saw with your own eyes. Consider the way we won in the first two games, then consider the change that took place in the way the team played in the 3rd game after the coaches had a chance to tweak things and do their coaching. So your statement that the coaching staff won't changing what works in the middle of winning streak is demonstrably false. We all saw it with our own eyes. First two games, winning, break for practice and change instituted in the middle of the consecutive wins, then different play style in third game. I'm not saying they were necessarily wrong to do that and implement their system, just that your statement that they won't change anything in the middle of a winning streak is demonstrably false.
     
  15. LosPollosHermanos

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    No, he is a Lin fan. He posted something clearly indicating he doesn't give a whowhat about the rockets yesterday.
     
  16. SuperStar

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    Could be both. Some Lin fans follow other teams mainly and Lin.
     
  17. LosPollosHermanos

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    This is what bugs me. People that clearly don't even have the rocket's best interest in mind, don't watch a lot of the games, are trying to tell the fans that have been watching for years to accept the messiah and run things their way.
     
  18. gate470

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    Duh?! Players say this ALL the time. Playing through mistakes and having confidence/support from coaches are key.
     
  19. just a word

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    We're watching for different reasons then; I'm watching this team as they slowly figure out what works, their sometimes brilliant moments bookended by absolute boneheadedness.

    Did you even see Beverley and how much of an amazing spark he was?

    Did you see where he flat out dove in midair after a ball and saved it pretty much through sheer force of will?

    Did you see Parsons and Delfino with their clutch 3's?

    Did you see when Asik somehow managed a jumper at the foul line when the shotclock was winding down and it went in?

    What about Harden's amazing drive where he dribbled through his own legs and dodged three defenders?

    Did you see DMo making that 3 pointer at, granted, garbage time?

    I'm sorry that you missed these brilliant moments since you 'weren't watching', because this is a young, growing team, and I find it terribly hard not to love them, even when they fail.

    Or perhaps do you wish to see a team that's only fully grown and pulled together because the owner threw enough money at them? Like, perhaps, the Lakers?

    Oh wait...:grin:
     
  20. Bublanski

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    im willing to give Lin a pass this year.

    If he still stinks out the joint in a consistent basis next year, im done with him.
     

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