1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Should Antonio Davis become the Rockets' priority now?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Achebe, Jun 28, 2001.

  1. Achebe

    Achebe Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 1999
    Messages:
    6,237
    Likes Received:
    3
    Thoughts TheFreak? [​IMG]

    This guy is a workhorse, has the little 10-15'er, rebounds like a mad man, etc. Everyone knows that he wants to go to Orlando like all the little wussy 6'9.5" PF/Centers but would he turn down being overpayed?

    i.e. Kelvin Cato, Kenny Thomas, Dan Langhi and cap to Toronto? You could bring back Dream in such a scenario and sport:

    Dream(first 3 games of the season), Davis, Collier
    Taylor, Griffin, Collier
    Griffin, Morris, Bullard
    Mobley, ???
    Francis, Norris
     
  2. TheFreak

    TheFreak Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 1999
    Messages:
    18,304
    Likes Received:
    3,310
    Achebe, I don't know why you mention me in every post now.

    I think we should go after Brad Miller though. For some reason I really want him on the team now. Cato and/or Walt for Miller. 7-footer, good shooter/rebounder, doesn't have hands of stone, should be pretty cheap. Let's do it.
     
  3. Jeff

    Jeff Clutch Crew

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    22,412
    Likes Received:
    362
    I agree that Miller might be a better choice. Davis, ironically, is too old now for this team. Jackson would be ok, but Miller is an interesting choice because it adds shooting and depth.

    ------------------
    Things do not change; we change. - Henry David Thoreau
     
  4. haven

    haven Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 1999
    Messages:
    7,945
    Likes Received:
    14
    I agree that A. Davis might be a better option than Webber now.

    I've heard LaFrenz's name mentioned a bit, but Davis is faster, a better defender, and still manages to hit the odd shot now and then (unlike Dale Davis, who I still don't want). Multi-talented... without needing the ball constantly.

    He's not much of a shotblocker... but with Eddie Griffin, who cares? He can't guard Shaq... but who can? Wait 4 years until these guys are matured... and we'll kick Kobe's butt without that 7' 300lb monstrosity beside him.

    let's just hope Orlando would be amenable to getting Webber instead of Davis [​IMG].

    ------------------
    Newbiehad... coming to a bbs near you, October 31st.
     
  5. tacoma park legend

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    2,224
    Likes Received:
    1
    Go after Miller. The Bulls need a "vet" to "groom" Curry. They'd probably be willing to take Cato off our hands. He at least tries,and oddly enough, gets to the foul line alot.

    ------------------
    The Smurfs were Communists
     
  6. Lil Francis

    Lil Francis Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    3,772
    Likes Received:
    0
    Davis would be a great fit.


    Dream
    Davis
    Griffin
    Mobley
    Francis

    ------------------
    President of the Steve Francis, Jamal Crawford,Larry Hughes, Charles Woodson, and Eddie Griffin fan club.
     
  7. haven

    haven Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 1999
    Messages:
    7,945
    Likes Received:
    14
    TPL: Cato tries? That's one I hadn't heard before.

    I'll give you this: he tries very hard to block every shot that nears the rim, regardless of whether this will cause him to foul or leave his man for an easy score. [​IMG]

    ------------------
    Newbiehad... coming to a bbs near you, October 31st.
     
  8. r-fan-since-81

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 1999
    Messages:
    1,323
    Likes Received:
    103
    "Vet" to Groom "Curry," thats the funniest post I've read to describe Cato's playmaking ability.

    ------------------
    Keep Mo Ta & get Ta Mo
     
  9. SamCassell

    SamCassell Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    9,516
    Likes Received:
    2,377
    Presuming Webber is a pipe dream, Marc Jackson is the free agent that the Rockets should target. LaFrentz would be a good trade, but I don't know that the Nuggets will actually ship him out for pennies on the dollar.

    ------------------
    I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip that I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.
     
  10. DieHard Rocket

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2000
    Messages:
    9,413
    Likes Received:
    1,161
    I agree that A.Davis probably isn't the right fit for this team anymore, at least for what he's asking. I'd also rather have Miller, if it meant Cato'd be gone.

    I still think we should look into trying to acquire D.Davis from Portland. Sure he cannot shoot, but he gets on the glass and gets easy putbacks. We could have a 3 man rotation at center- Davis(rebounding), Cato(shotblocking...sort of), and Collier(shooting). Davis could put in about 25 mins a game, and Cato and Collier could split the rest. The lineup would look something like this, assuming no Dream or Webber.

    C: Davis, Cato, Collier
    PF: Mo, Griffen
    SF: Griffen, Morris, Langhi
    SG: Cat, Steve
    PG: Steve, Moochie

    ------------------
    Who needs teachers? I can learn my own self.

    [This message has been edited by DieHard Rocket (edited June 28, 2001).]
     
  11. BobFinn*

    BobFinn* Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2000
    Messages:
    11,438
    Likes Received:
    6
    One more for Dream [​IMG]

    ------------------
    "For there is nothing either good or bad, thinking makes it so."
    - William Shakespeare (1564-1616), Hamlet
     
  12. haven

    haven Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 1999
    Messages:
    7,945
    Likes Received:
    14
    DieHard Rocket: But Dale Davis' attractions sprang from the fact that we had *nobody* who could rebound or guard talented big men.

    Err... enter our new 3/4 stud, Eddie Griffin. Rebound? Sure, top 10 in college his freshman year. Block shots? 2nd in the nation. Defend? 3's or 4's, baby!

    Now, I want to see us go for someone with alittle more versatility than the one dimensional Dale Davis. That man's A. Davis, since he can do it all...


    ------------------
    Newbiehad... coming to a bbs near you, October 31st.
     
  13. NIKEstrad

    NIKEstrad Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2000
    Messages:
    10,225
    Likes Received:
    4,223
    Hakeem, Mo, and Mooch become top priority now IMO. We should also try to shop Walt.

    I think Davis is pretty set on Orlando, and will be too expensive anyhow.

    The guy I'd like to see us pursue via trade is Chris Mihm. Raef Lafrentz will probably be too tough to acquire, though he'd fit absolutely perfect. I think we need a guy with an outside shot at center, who can board some and block shots.

    Since Cleveland just draft Diop, and acquired Doleac, and already have Ziggy, I could see Mihm being available. And, with their salary troubles from Ziggy, taking on a guy with 1 year left like Walt would help alleviate that.

    ------------------
    "I think alot of people find Cato's game to be very offensive." -aelliott, comparing the offensive skills of Kelvin Cato and Michael Olowokandi
     
  14. MoonBus

    MoonBus Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 1999
    Messages:
    1,102
    Likes Received:
    55
    I agree with the assessment that A. Davis is too old and will be on his way down. I am sure he is looking for at least a 5 year deal, which is 2 years too much for me.

    What would teams like Denver & Portland ask for in exchange for D. Davis or LaFrenz? Definetly not chump changes like Cato & Wiz. I also don't see them needing KT either.

    I like the idea of Jackson, but I thought I read somewhere before that he mention about wanting to get more touches. We don't need that, we need someone that will bang inside, rebound, and be satisfied with getting garbage points. I like Miller also. I remember awhile back I read that he is not afraid to mix it up down low.

    NIKEstrad, I read somewhere that Lucas is looking at Mihm as a 4, not a 5. And I think MIhm is too soft to play center for us.



    ------------------
    15 years later... Zoom
     
  15. DieHard Rocket

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2000
    Messages:
    9,413
    Likes Received:
    1,161
    "What would teams like Denver & Portland ask for in exchange for D. Davis or LaFrenz? Definetly not chump changes like Cato & Wiz. I also don't see them needing KT either." -MoonBus

    If and when we cannot re-sign Dream, then we might be able to do a S&T with Shandon for one of these centers...i prefer D.Davis, but Lafrentz would work too. For Davis, we would have to sign Shandon for $5-6 mil a year and then ship him and maybe KT to complete it. For Raef, I'm not sure what we could send that they would accept because he makes far less than DD...and nobody that makes about $2 mil on our team will be acceptable to trade for Lafrentz.

    ------------------
    Who needs teachers? I can learn my own self.
     
  16. Achebe

    Achebe Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 1999
    Messages:
    6,237
    Likes Received:
    3
    I was just giving you a shout out TheFreak... at the time that I was writing this I had read you making a bunch of Cato to Chicago sort of jokes, so I thought that my speculation might get on your nerves too. :p

    ------------------
    calling powdered toast man

    girl you looks good won't you mock that draft up?!
     
  17. Desert Scar

    Desert Scar Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2000
    Messages:
    8,764
    Likes Received:
    11
    Webber will be a good player (versus a great one like he willbe the next 3-4 more) when both Davis's are out the league. IF were are going to spend big bucks now, Webber is only man to think of right now. Lafrez would be good too, but only if we did a deal where we keep our big 3, Denver would have to be a little desperate.

    If we go with small/medium FA bucks or a smaller trade, a guy like Miller, Jackson, MacCollack or the like would be OK.
     
  18. tacoma park legend

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    2,224
    Likes Received:
    1
    Haven,

    lol, the makeup of my paragraph was pretty bad in that post. That last sentence was referring to Miller.

    ------------------
    The Smurfs were Communists

    [This message has been edited by tacoma park legend (edited June 28, 2001).]
     
  19. TheFreak

    TheFreak Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 1999
    Messages:
    18,304
    Likes Received:
    3,310
    Achebe -- I'm serious about the Cato/Wiz to Chicago thing. Those weren't jokes, if that's what you're referring to.
     

Share This Page