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Shawn Marion: Available for expiring contracts???

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hottoddie, Jul 17, 2005.

  1. Hottoddie

    Hottoddie Member

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    This is just some idle speculation by this writer, but If true, would you send a couple of expiring contracts along with a couple of future #1 picks to Phoenix for him? On second thought, this writer has to be on crack. There's no way that Phoenix would give Marion away for an expiring contract. Oh well, get from the article what you may.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/ian_thomsen/07/15/brown.pistons/index.html

    An obvious target Thomas might take a run at would be Phoenix forward Shawn Marion, whose remaining deal for four years and $63 million could become prohibitive if the Suns retain Joe Johnson and re-sign Amare Stoudemire to max deals. By sending Kurt Thomas to Phoenix last month for Quentin Richardson, Thomas essentially supplied the Suns with Marion's replacement at power forward. If the Suns are intent on wiping Marion off their books, trading him to New York prior to the February deadline for the expiring $14 million contract of Tim Thomas would be a logical move.
     
  2. Yaomania345

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    I think they can get way more than that. Im sure many teams would offer young players with potiental and lots of draft picks. I just cant see a very good player in Marion traded for nothing. This trade also cant happen because it would help Isiah become a bad GM which is an upgrade over what hes at now: the worst GM ever.
     
  3. HAYJON02

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    how badly does gundy want to keep mcgrady at the 3? i wouldnt be as stupid as the suns and play marion as a 4.
     
  4. arno_ed

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    Getting rid of Marion would be stupid. He is a much better player then johnson. he is a key player for their team last year. if they get rid of him they will not do so good, and probably not get home advantage.
    I would love to have him on the rockets
     
  5. RocketFire

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    i hope they trade Marion. He was the Rockets Killer last year. I was always afraid of him catching fire and make unbelievable looking shots. Trade him PHX, do it.
     
  6. R0ckets03

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    I cant believe anyone in their right mind would trade Shawn Marion just so they can keep Joe Johnson.
     
  7. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I am actually one of those that would trade Marion to keep Joe Johnson. I guess I like his versitility to play 3 positions, good defense, great 3pt shot and his overall game. I love Marion too. But to me when you look at Phoenix's team, I think JJ is more important to them than Marion....especially as Amare starts to dominate in the post area. As Amare starts to grow in his role, Marion's role will deminish. But JJ's role on that team will be as big as ever on the perimeter.

    I personally hope JJ goes to Atlanta. I would love to see that. I think it would make Atlanta better and worsen the Suns.

    But, if I am the Suns I resign JJ, then move Marion fiscal reasons. I think the Knick trade is a good idea in general, especially targeting a team in the Eastern conference. But if you are the Suns you need more than just Tim Thomas. You would have to ask for a 1st round pick and probably Trevor Ariza and David Lee. That would give the Suns financial flexibility, plus they would get two young players to give them bench depth and a 1st rounder to add more depth. I am sure there are other potential good Marion deals out there but that's the kind of deal the Suns would be looking for. Basically allowing them to break apart Marion's single Max deal into smaller deals for more bench depth.

    The Rockets cant take on Marion. He is on a max contract. The Rockets have their two max guys in Tmac and Yao. What the Rockets need to do is then fill out their team with good role players. And that's exactly what we are trying to do in acquiring Stromile Swift.
     
  8. apostolic3

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    I think most of us agree with you. JJ's versatility and youth make him the perfect long term compliment to Amare. He will continue to get better while Marion has peaked.

    If JJ and Marion were both UFAs this summer, there is no question JJ would be in bigger demand. In fact, he would have been the #1 UFA on everyone's list ahead of Ray Allen and Michael Redd. Marion is a very good player but not a max player. His is the 4th most valuable player on the Suns, behind Amare, Nash & JJ. It must grate on Suns fans right now that they won't be as good next season as this past season. Trading Q for Kurt Thomas started that process and losing JJ or Marion seals their fate. And dumb dumb Colangelo has already committed the MLE to Raja Bell.
     
  9. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Ya know, if Marion and JJ were both UFAs this summer, I am not so sure JJ would be more sought after than Marion. Marion has the size advantage and size is king in the NBA. However, on the Suns "team" I think JJ is more valuable over time. That's why they should keep him. But on the market, tough to say who is more valuable. I guess it all depends on what your team needs are.

    I agree that if JJ would have been a UFA, he would have risen above Hughes and Allen as the top FA guard available this offseason when you consider his skill level, potential and age.
     
  10. dharocks

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    Well, actually, JJ's listed at about 6'8, 220, whereas Marion's listed at 6'7, 215... But I know what you mean, with his rebounding and everything, I'm just being a smartass ;)

    I doubt the Suns would trade Marion to a Western Conference team for trash, much less a Western Conference Playoff team. If they traded him to a team in the West, they've definitely be asking for some value in return.
     
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    I keep reading this, and from reputable sources such as you, and I think NIKEstrad. But I still don't quite get it. I guess it's because I would rather have 3 max guys like T-Mac, Yao, Marion plus some drafted guys plus some vet minimum guys instead of 2 max guys plus one 7M player who is not really worth it plus two 4M players plus scrubs.

    I think if we could get Marion, we should go for it...he is so good that if you have financial concerns later, you should always be able to trade him for value (e.g., draft picks), unlike someone like Allan Houston or so.
     
  12. saintja2

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    Marion is a good regular season player with a ridiculous contract and his real position happens to be the same position as our best player.

    I wouldn't trade for him. Maybe in a 3-way where we unload our expiring contracts and get a better fit.
     
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    Damn, I just realized how huge Marion's contract really is. That is indeed a lot...
     
  14. topfive

    topfive CF OG

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    Plus there's the thought of having to look at that UGLY shot for the next few years. I don't care if he hits 100%, that's still the ugliest jumper I've ever seen.
     
  15. Hottoddie

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    I agree with you. A trio of T-Mac, Yao, & Marion would be one of the best in the league. With those 3 guys & a healthy Howard, those guys would be unbeatable. Add a solid PG with the MLE & this team would have to be one of the favorites to win it all.

    If Marion were truely available, this would definitely be one of those times that having Cuban as an owner would be sweet. Not that I like Cuban, but he is a fan's owner.

    Unfortunately, we'd have to give up much more than an Eastern Conference team would have to just to get him. And, it's possible that they wouldn't trade him to us for anything less than a King's ransom. However, it sure is a nice dream though. :D
     

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