Looks like we aren't the only team suffering from that trade.... http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/37320.htm SHANDON SHOOTS BACK By MARC BERMAN January 2, 2002 -- Shandon Anderson's frustration level has reached a new high. Responding to Don Chaney's claim that he's letting his offensive woes affect his entire game, Anderson shot back that his reduced playing time under Chaney is the biggest factor to his malaise. For the first time this season, Anderson expressed frustration about his reduced minutes. Anderson hasn't been told why Chaney cut his minutes and doesn't feel he should be taken to task for poor play. The Knicks' new coach, known for his personable style, hasn't talked to Anderson on the subject. "I feel if you play 7, 10 minutes a game, how effective can you be?," Anderson told The Post. "I try to be effective in the minutes I get." Anderson, who was a happy go lucky guy in preseason has had his smile wiped off his face during the season's first two months. "You give anyone more time, they'll be more effective," Anderson said. "But my minutes were cut. I don't know why. People say I've struggled. You can't struggle getting one shot a game. That's not struggling. If I played more minutes, do I think I'd be more effective? Of course. I was effective earlier in the season, but the minutes have dropped. I have to work with what I get." Anderson is averaging 16 minutes in the 11 games under Chaney, though he has played 20-plus minutes the past two games. Anderson averaged 22 minutes under Jeff Van Gundy. The former Knicks coach, too, had limited Anderson's time in his final days. Chaney gave the harshest critique of any player so far when he discussed Anderson's struggles before Sunday's Orlando loss. Anderson didn't step up vs. the Magic despite increased minutes. Anderson, who fouled out in the final minute, was 1 of 6 with two costly turnovers down the stretch while failing to stop Tracy McGrady in the clutch. "We brought him in to be a defensive stopper," Chaney said. "I can live with the missed shots, I don't care. But you've got to go to your strengths. Do your job according to your strength. We brought him in thinking he can play three positions. He's been erratic, allowing his defense to suffer." Anderson doesn't agree with Chaney's assessment at all. "I don't think that's the case," Anderson said. "I don't think one thing has to do with another. I don't think I'm worrying about my offense and it's hurting my defense. That's never happened as long as I've been in the league. When I played in Utah and Houston, I played both ends of the court." Anderson was a starter with the Rockets last season but had been a reserve in Utah. He promised the reduced role here would not affect him or get him down. Well, it's affecting him now. Anderson has become a turnover machine, is shooting 38.4 percent from the field, has blown countless layups and is hitting at 27.5 percent from 3-point land. It's gotten to the point where Sprewell won't even pass the ball to Anderson at times when he's been open beyond the arc. Anderson believes his turnover problem is a result of his aggressive, slashing style. "In the media guide, you know what my game is," Anderson said. " My game is not standing out there shooting 3s. That's a passive game. Anytime I'm shooting a 3, I'm also playing aggressive taking the ball to the hole, getting offensive rebounds. A lot of turnovers come from not being passive. I'm not a Dell Curry just standing out and shooting."
I think he was a nice guy while he was in Houston, but he has never been anything more than an average player at best, in my opinion. Even his defense seemed overrated to me, judging by the performances of the players he guarded (can't really remember him ever shutting down any star players). P.S.: What he is saying about "how can you contribute if you only play 7-10 minutes a game": He played a lot more in Houston, and a lot of times he did not contribute much at all. Lines like 1-4 shooting, 3 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 points in 32 minutes were not rare. But if you want to make that point of not being able to contribute consistently in very few minutes, it should be a valid defense for people like Langhi as well. I still believe Langhi can be a decent player in this league. With Rice being out, give Langhi a chance to play three, four games with 30 minutes or so a game. If he doesn't show promise then, at least one cannot say it is because he didn't get a chance. Remember that Griffin's stats also sucked before he got the chance to start and play more than 30 minutes a game for a few games.
Gosh, how many different ways can you say "I can't shoot!". On the other hand, the coach is complaining because he couldn't stop McGrady? That's like Popovich complaining because Robinson couldn't stop Shaq or Hakeem during the playoffs. You either deny people like that the ball, or stop them as a team - you don't assign someone undersized and outmatched to do it and then complain about it. Great job, coach!
hehe...Shandon must be getting torched by NY fans, as expected. <font size="1">I'm sure TheFreak is going to call us punks for bashing a ex-player. hehe. Well, call it a cathartic cleansing for putting up with so much coach bashing and current player bashing on this bbs.</font> His turnovers are due to his "slashing style." Doesn't that mean you can't dribble, shanna? I swear that Shandon is the most delusional player I've seen in awhile, well, maybe Cato. His only point is that if he's on a team with Malone drawing all the attention, and Stockton able to pick apart the weakside defense then he can slash to the basket for advantageous positioning if not a layup. What is so hogwash about this is that name a player who couldn't do that? Shandon, sure you can excel in that weakside offense, but so can any athletic player no matter if they can shoot or not. Terrence Morris could outplay you given Stockton and Malone in their prime in half a season of practice, I'm sure. <b>There is a reason you were a second rounder shanna; it is because raw athleticism in a 6'6" frame with no shot and no dribble is dime a dozen.</b> This is what Van Gundy started saying: He is calling it a "pattern."
Good riddens. People complain about Rice but at least he only has 2 more seasons after this season. Our option was to be stuck with Andersen for 6 more seasons. Even though Rice hasn't done a thing, I still see that trade as Houston coming out on top. We can free the cap space sooner -- it may come down to that in the end. That being said, if Rice can get healthy, he has more upside potential. If he can't get healthy, maybe we can get some sort of exemption. Either way we win. If Rice stays teetering on the brink of injury his whole 3 years then that's the worst scenerio for Houston. In that case, you can probably call it a draw with the Nicks but we still win cause we clear the cap space 3 years quicker.
what better way to come back from the holidays... what's up heycrispeecritter? shandn's a class act. i didn't know that francis, mobley, sprewell and chaney all shared a maternal grandmother. it's the only thing that could possibly explain their shutting out of "black sheep shandn".
Gee who would have thought Shandon would play limited minutes when he has Sprewell and Houston on his team? Please tell me they didn't think he could play PG... Of course it's not like we're in much better shape with Glen Rice...
crispee, Don Chaney "went to the media first". Why no disdain for Chaney not keeping his business private? You're not allowed to go to the media, remember? Totally false. The funny thing is, Anderson's had a better season than Rice.
When Shandon became a free agent, he should have called the gm of Utah and said i want to come back. He fit in good there, he got the ball in the post, running the court and coutless other times. He was never a 3pt shooting machine and he was never the kind of player that could put the ball on the floor for more than 2 or 3 dribbles. I thought after his ordeal in Houston, he would go back to Utah where the syle fits his game perfect. The system he plays in now is no better than the one he left.
ah yes, instead of shooting a few 100 extra jumpers every day and setting up some cones to work on his dribbling he should limit himself to playing with the only 2 players that he had marginal success with. oh, yea, by the way, he wouldn't play there, either. deshawn "the pedophile" stevenson and quincy lewis would have taken his minutes.
Yeah, as nice as it is to know that the Rockets did not misjudge or misuse Shandon, we still don't have much to brag about since we got Glen Rice out of the deal. This team would be in so much better shape right now if we had just let Shandon walk (and for that matter, so would New York). Nobody won this trade.
You can look at this three ways: 1. Numbers - They are almost dead even in their numbers. Rice scores a little more but they are basically even in almost every category. 2. Availability - Clearly Anderson wins this one. 3. Impact on Team - This one is debatable. Do the Rockets miss a healthy Glen Rice? I think they do. He was just beginning to shoot the ball with consistency when he went down. The Knicks wouldn't miss Anderson much at all if he was injured. To me, it is pretty much an even swap at this point.
Actually, I said that Rudy, Les and Dream probably made an agreement not to go to the media. Other than that, it is a matter of personal taste to me. So yeah, if I were Chaney, I would never have said that to the media. Yet, you make it sound like I said Shandon was classless. I didn't say that. I laughed at his reasoning. "A lot of turnovers come from not being passive." Uh...how about not being passive *and* not being able to dribble. He makes it sound like the media guide propaganda from Fegan says he can dribble to the hole or stop and pop. Not when the defense sags on you, dude. You can't shoot, so forcing things beyond your dribbling ability is going to create turnovers. good grief. Shandon, the league has learned your small set of moves. It's over. You had your day with those Utah moves when no one concentrated on you. Now the "<b><i>How to Guard Shandon for Dummies"</i></b> book is out. If you don't improve your dribble, your shot, and how to protect the ball, you are going to take an early exit in this league. Deal with it Shandon.
Raven's right. Both sides lost this trade. In retrospect, the best move for the Rockets would have been simply letting Shandon walk, instead of trading him. Hindsight is 20/20.
Some good posts in this thread, said most of what I wanted to say. I'm afraid everyone in this trade didn't know what they were getting themselves into, except for the organizations themselves with regard to the guys they were trading. It's very clear now from the comments of Chaney and Anderson that they expected different things from the other and are now upset because they're not getting what they expected. I'm not surprised about that. But I am afraid that NY understood some things about Glen Rice and the extent of his abilities that we haven't been convinced about yet. I hope that's not true. I agree that I think I'd rather have let Shandon walk, but at least the Rockets managed to save face after evident wink-wink deals with Shandon. I hope Shandon finds his niche somewhere. Good luck to him.
I'm not sure about us missing Rice too much, it was Rice going down that helped free up time for Oscar to show what he's capable of doing. Rice has pretty much sucked all year and I'm not so sure about him beginning to be a consistent shooter when he went down. In his last 6 games he shot above 33.3% only once...
YAWN If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck.... Same $hit, different team. Anyway, Shandon was a good guy, and I actually would not have minded keeping him. But history has begun to repeat itself.
