Anyone who reads my responses knows how I feel about Shandon Anderson. He just sucks. I’ve tried to wait for someone to start a “Shandon is Great” thread, so that I could completely torch them, but it has not happened. I have finally decided to take the initiative and started my own thread about why he truly sucks. Truly sucks. I’m even using capitalization for this thread (so you know I mean business ) “Clutch Performer” HA!!! Shandon Anderson has turned tortoise in the clutch. When was the last time any of you can recall Shandon having a good game? Let’s recap a few: March 22, 2001 Houston v. LA Clippers FG: 1-7 3pt: 0-4 FT: 0-0 Reb: 4 Ast: 4 TO: 0 Steal: 0 Block: 0 Points: 2 March 20, 2001 Houston v. Sacramento FG: 2-6 3pt: 1-3 FT: 0-0 Reb: 0 Ast: 1 TO: 1 Steal: 2 Block: 0 Points: 5 March 17, 2001 Houston v. San Antonio FG: 0-2 3PT: 0-1 FT: 0-0 Reb: 6 Ast: 1 TO: 1 Steal: 0 Block: 1 Points: 0 March 15, 2001 Houston v. New Jersey FG: 3-9 3pt: 1-2 FT: 0-0 Reb: 5 Ast: 2 TO: 2 Steal: 0 Block: 2 Points: 7 March 13, 2001 Houston v. Indiana FG: 4-8 3pt: 0-3 FT: 6-7 Reb: 3 Ast: 2 TO: 2 Steal: 1 Block: 1 Points: 14 March 11, 2001 Houston v. Phoenix FG: 0-1 3pt: 0-0 FT: 1-2 Reb: 3 Ast: 1 TO: 2 Steal: 0 Block: 0 Points: 1 March 10, 2001 Houston v. Golden State FG: 4-10 3pt: 0-2 FT: 2-2 Reb: 3 Ast: 3 TO: 1 Steal: 0 Block: 0 Points: 10 March 8, 2001 Houston v. LA Clippers FG: 1-3 3pt: 0-0 FT: 2-2 Reb: 7 Ast: 6 TO: 0 Steal: 1 Block: 0 Points: 4 This man is garbage. He is officially the 6th man of the year. That is, 6th man for the other team. He refuses to shoot the open shot. When he does shoot, he bricks. He cannot dribble. He has poor court vision. He is terrible. And his defense is overrated. The amazing thing to me is there is a Shandon Contigency here at the BBS. There is a group who defends Shandon with statements like – yea, but he plays good D. No he doesn’t. Go back and see the men he has covered. See what they’ve lit him up for. Shandon puts forth a “decent” one-on-one effort on defense. Decent. You want good effort? Give me Doug Christie. Give your body up. Shoot the open shot. Sometimes the best defense IS a good offense. I know some of you will disagree with me on this, but I’d say that Cuttino Mobley is a better defender than Shandon Anderson. That’s right. You know why? Because Cuttino plays the passing lanes on defense. More importantly than that, though, is that Cuttino makes HIS MAN play defense on him. He, if nothing else, cancels his man out through his own offense. Shandon? 2,5,0,7,14,1,10,4. That’s been his scoring the last eight games. I didn't go beyond that, but I’m sure you know that it did not get any better. 11-36? That’s been his shooting over that course. If you don’t have a TI994A, that’s 30.5%. 2-15? That’s his 3pt%. Oh yea, for the TI994A challenged, that’s 13.3%. The man is terrible. It’s almost laughable. Almost, until you consider that there are those that want to sign this man for Mobley-esque money for 4-5 years. Mobley-esque? As in All-Star-in-the-making $$? Even though Mobley is underpaid, I would keep Shandon for that money for principalities alone. Yea, but he has a good work ethic Really? Get some freaking yellow cones, Shandon. Put them in a zig-zag diagram from one end of the court to the other. Now go dribble. Shoot a few 100 jumpers per day. How hard would that be? And I know some of you will say “yea, but you don’t know if he’s doin’ that.” Yes I do. If he were, you would see the #s I gave you earlier. The man is just ridiculous. 6th Man Of The Year. yea, but he’s a good open court player. Wrong again. Shandon runs the wings well. Then again, so do almost all CBA players. Damn if I can’t run to the baselines and starts toward the goal. If that’s the best defense of Shandon we can muster, it further highlights how truly terrible he is. yea, but we have an obligation to him. This is the one that angers me. I mean, he took less money than he “could have gotten” to play here. We SUPPOSEDLY agreed to “hook him up” (Joe Smith style?) later. To tell you the truth, Shandon has not played up the amount of money we have paid him to this point. To me, the Rockets fulfilled their end of the bargain by starting his overpaid, non-shooting ass every freaking game. He had the opportunity to prove he was a starting caliber player. He had the opportunity that he was not going to get in Utah. He had the chance to prove he could act – by being in a movie. Well guess what? The movie flopped like WaterWorld. Just call him Shandon Costner. Folx, At best, Shandon Anderson is another Mario Elie that cannot shoot. At worst, he’s a guy who will be overpaid and eating up cap space for years to come. Get rid of him. Get rid of him this summer. I don’t think anyone would criticize us for it. Some might congratulate us for a wise decision. Give me Shane. Give me Terrence. Give me Griffin. Give Shandon a hairbrush . Give me a guy who plays for the Rockets, not the opponent. ------------------ Lt. Roastabotch reporting for duty!
Verse That *is* ugly. . .. I have to think on this one. . .I like Shan alot but these numbers are CATO-esque I know about the D but we need SOME O we need him to step up SOME He is the Anti-Walt I had never seen this put out there like that . . . I like SHAN ALOT I WANT TO KEEP HIM but . . .this is just *ss horrible. Rocket River ------------------
I would call very few people GARBAGE. That is a very cheap personal attack to make on a person, especially one of Shandon's caliber.
Yea, but he's a long guard Without Shandon, our tallest guard is Cuttino at 6'4". (and cuttino ain't that tall.) We gotta have a long guard so he can D the other teams long guards: Harper/Bryant Rose/Miller
I gotta say when I opened this thread I really thought you would say some stupid ____ that I could shoot down. Not the case. We need a small forward badly. Shandon isn't the answer and neither is the Grizzard. Doug Christie would be welcome. So would Rashard Lewis, Marion, Donyell, Paul Pierce, Michael Finley, George Lynch, Bonzi Wells. Their availability, however, is another issue. In fact George Lynch would be a great addition to this team. Brings great defense, a servicable shot, and hustle. Anyone willing to do The Answer's dirty work would be more than happy on this team. ------------------ [This message has been edited by AT (edited March 23, 2001).]
Hey, let's not get on Shandon's case too much. True, he isn't putting up the numbers, but how would you guys feel if YOUR mom this year? Give him a chance to regroup this summer -- if he doesn't pick it up next year, THEN we should flame him. Right now, Cato is the one person that needs to get roasted. ------------------ HOUSTON Rockets forever!!
Players who don't contribute a lot on a regular basis should be kicked off the team. ------------------ Matt Bullard Fan Club www.AirBullard.com
Shandon may not be able to dribble, he may not be able to shoot, but at least he's TALL. We need a tall guard to defend the other teams' tall guards.
I think you're a bit off base here, verse. While Shandon's box score is definitely a bit ugly night in and night out, there are two things you have to keep in mind : 1) Someone has to play defense - the kind of defense that doesn't show up in the box 2) As far as the points/shooting situation goes, how many times has Shandon been waved off of the post by Francis this year ? When you have a 'tall' guard, you not only get better D, you also get a clear mismatch on the other end of the floor. I also believe that the tight chemistry between Francis and Mobley sometimes leaves Shandon out to dry (e.g. FAST BREAKS). I don't think that Shandon is our best player. I'm not even sure that we should resign him for decent $. One thing I know for sure, however, is that he is NOT garbage. ------------------ word to your mother
Jamcracker, Shandon plays the 3. If he were to cover a "long" guard, then Mobley switches to a 3? ------------------ Whitey will pay.
I am an idiot. Shandon has played the 3 exclusively this year. Shandon has defended only opposing 3's. I don't know what I was thinking. Walt has never started at the 3. Bull has never played the 3. Shandon always plays the 3 late in games when he's in. Say, what channel are these Tockets games on anyway?
I think you need to substitute Cato's name in place of Shandon's in the topic of this thread. Shandon has not been what we expected but at least he hustles. Cato wont even attempt to. ------------------ "Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen" -Hudson
Shandon Anderson has been awful, no doubt about it. He deserves this criticism of his play lately... especially his outside shot -- man it's been terrible. Personally I think that and ballhandling on the break keep him from being in the same class as Mobley and Francis. He had some great games last year too -- remember when he scored 30 and 10 boards, going 10-12 from the floor, in Portland to <a href="http://www.clutchcity.net/game.cfm?gameID=75">lead us over the Blazers</a>? However there are reasons I like Shandon and hope he stays. He works hard, he does play defense, he doesn't b**** and complain, he moves without the ball and he's willing to do things that won't get him props in the box score or All Star votes. Plus he took a low dollar contract to be here. I know -- you've heard that a lot... I just place a high value on loyalty. It's just against my nature to be too critical of someone who works hard and is humble about it. Reminds me of Rodney McCray in that regard. Double standard? Guess so. ------------------ NOTHING BUT .NET CLUTCHCITY.NET
Verse, Nobody in this league (not even Cato) deserves to be called Garbage! While I agree that the Rockets need a serious upgrade from Anderson and Walt at the SF spot, Shandon could add value coming off the bench as a SG/SF. His defense is above average (not great) and he does run the floor very well. As long as it doesn't adversly effect "cap room" and our pursuit of Webber/Jackson/decent SF, I'm all for giving Shandon his "early-Bird" money and bringing him off the bench next year. Bottom line: no matter how great Steve and Cuttino play,the Rockets are not a playoff team as long as Shandon/Cato/Walt are logging 20+ minutes per game. ------------------
Yeah, it takes gigantic "balls" to call a human being garbage. In that case I could show how big mine are by saying what I think of you, but I don't like to make personal attacks.
I pretty much agree with everything you said, verse. Too many people are quick to offer up some reason why we can overlook Shandon's disappearing act. I am not cutting this guy any breaks. Noone else gets the breaks...why should he? The dude is lost on most nights. When he came over from Utah, I was expecting much more out of him than what we have received. Sure, he has had some good performances but they are so far and few between that they are hardly worth mentioning. I'm not sure if its because he is not assertive enough or what....he just doesn't get the job done. I would almost take Walt over Shandon....and that isn't saying much. If Shandon is around next year, I will be very surprised. He should have stayed in Utah. He is definitely not starter material. Maybe we use him as a bench player. Its like we handed him the starting job and he has not put up good enough numbers to hold that job or warrant keeping him around in the future. He is expendible. He would almost be a good fit for a team like Chicago. Then, maybe he won't feel so lost and will actually assert himself more instead of hiding his game. I don't know if he thinks too much or not enough out there. He reminds me of Pippen when Pippen would not assert himself as a Rocket and drive to the basket. He would either pass up the shot or pull up for the 3. On nights when he did drive, he did well. Shandon is the exact same way. Shandon is not one to let you know how he is feeling, either. I don't want a withdrawn, shy, unfeeling, guess what mindset I'm in, are you happy or sad(?) NBA player on my team. I mean...is he depressed? Why doesn't he assert himself more? Does he like his team? Does he ever talk? Not much of a leader...just a follower type. I would say he would be the 8th or 9th man off my bench if I were coach. Update: I wouldn't go so far as to call anyone "Garbage" though. I don't agree with you there. Surf ------------------ [This message has been edited by Surfguy (edited March 23, 2001).]
I would like Shandon to guard the two and Mobes to guard the three in the three guard lineup. Mobes guards the three when it is him, Mooch, and Steve out there, and Shandon seemed to really give opposing two guards fits last year. ------------------ "We messed with the Bull, and we got the horns." -- Larry Brown "quote" from AirBullard.com
