Serial Killers Cleared by Iranian Supreme Court as Victims' Activities Were Un-Islam

hotballa · Apr 16, 2007

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html

The Iranian Supreme Court has vacated the murder convictions of a group of serial killers because their victims were engaging in un-Islamic activities, the British Broadcasting Corp. reports.

The men were convicted for a series of grisly killings in the southeastern city of Kerman in 2002. The vigilantes were said to believe that Islam condoned the killing of anyone engaged in illicit activities if they issued two warnings to the victims, the BBC reports.

At least 18 people were killed on the murder spree, but the men were only tried for five of the deaths. Some of the victims were stoned, others were suffocated and at least one man was buried alive, according to the vigilantes' confessions.

These men told the court that their understanding of the teachings of one Islamic cleric allowed them to kill immoral people if they had ignored two warnings to stop their bad behavior, according to the BBC.

The Supreme Court has overturned the verdict of a lower court that found all the men guilty of murder five times, according to lawyers for the victims' families. The vigilantes may still be liable for monetary damages.
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DaDakota · Apr 16, 2007

Man, this stuff is getting ridiculous.....these people are taking Islam and using it to screw with the minds of people.

It has to stop.....but it has to come from the Immans.......

Time to bring Islam in the Middle East up from the dark ages.

DD

jo mama · Apr 16, 2007

i hope new yorker doesnt accuse me of being PC, but this is really messed up.

arent most iranians against this stuff?

ahmadinejad is about as popular there as bush is here and most iranians do not support the mullahs.

tigermission1 · Apr 16, 2007

DaDakota said:

Time to bring Islam in the Middle East up from the dark ages.

DD
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Umm...no thank you, I will pass. Not our job.

Just condemn and move on...

DaDakota · Apr 16, 2007

tigermission1 said:

Umm...no thank you, I will pass. Not our job.

Just condemn and move on...
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You are correct, it is better to late the hatred and bullying of the weak and defensless continue on unchecked.

Look, I am not for a military solution, but a nice little multinational hit squad that eliminates the judges that rule this way .....well, now you are talking !!

You know...bully the bully....an eye for an eye.....stuff like that.

DD

DonkeyMagic · Apr 16, 2007

DaDakota said:

You are correct, it is better to late the hatred and bullying of the weak and defensless continue on unchecked.

Look, I am not for a military solution, but a nice little multinational hit squad that eliminates the judges that rule this way .....well, now you are talking !!

You know...bully the bully....an eye for an eye.....stuff like that.

DD
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how dare you. We should sit down with the judge and give him a good stern talking to. that will really show him!

Ehsan · Apr 16, 2007

Mehh. Kill the judges, ther will be more. No one will care. Personally, I don't care for the judges or the victims. If you watch videos of the supreme court judges you will be in awe of how barabaric they are.

As for the victims, they were nazis (literally) who went around raping little boys. They go around spewing things about Aryan blood, kidnapping every colored person and murdering them, raping children.

So mehh.. Don't waste your breath on this one.

Mr. Clutch · Apr 16, 2007

DaDakota said:

Time to bring Islam in the Middle East up from the dark ages.

DD
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They need to do it themselves. Note the Iraq democracy isn't going so well.

Mr. Brightside · Apr 16, 2007

This is shady reporting at its best. It never mentions what illicit activity the victims were engaged in. For all I know they could have been molesting children.

NewYorker · Apr 16, 2007

DaDakota said:

You are correct, it is better to late the hatred and bullying of the weak and defensless continue on unchecked.

Look, I am not for a military solution, but a nice little multinational hit squad that eliminates the judges that rule this way .....well, now you are talking !!

You know...bully the bully....an eye for an eye.....stuff like that.

DD
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While I don't support any kind of vigilante justice - let's recognize that without any more facts, that's all we can say is that their court validated this kind of approach.

Too early to pass judgement.

tigermission1 · Apr 17, 2007

DaDakota said:

You are correct, it is better to late the hatred and bullying of the weak and defensless continue on unchecked.
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It's a domestic issue that only affects them, not us.

Should we invade every country from now when we don't like their civil justice system?

Sooner or later we're going to have to start minding our own business. Enough of this Wilsonian neo-liberal crap. Cold and uncaring, I know...

Look, I am not for a military solution, but a nice little multinational hit squad that eliminates the judges that rule this way .....well, now you are talking !!
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I am not sure you even know what that means, so Go Rockets!

You know...bully the bully....an eye for an eye.....stuff like that.

DD
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How charitable of you...now you're religious?

Bandwagoner · Apr 17, 2007

Religion of Peace.

Dairy Ashford · Apr 17, 2007

CaseyH said:

Religion of Peace.
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You must be talking about Christianity.

Martin Luther said:

What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people, the Jews? Since they live among us, we dare not tolerate their conduct, now that we are aware of their lying and reviling and blaspheming. If we do, we become sharers in their lies, cursing and blaspemy. Thus we cannot extinguish the unquenchable fire of divine wrath, of which the prophets speak, nor can we convert the Jews. With prayer and the fear of God we must pratice a sharp mercy to see whether we might save at least a few from the glowing flames. We dare not avenge ourselves. Vengenance a thousand times worse than we could wish them already has them by the throat. I shall give you my sincere advice:

First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly - and I myself was unaware of it - will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews, existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very well know.

Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to them that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they are living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God.

Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them. (remainder omitted)

Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. For they have justly forfeited the right to such an office by holding the poor Jews captive with the saying of Moses (Deuternomy 17 [:10 ff.]) in which he commands them to obey their teachers on penalty of death, although Moses clearly adds: "what they teach you in accord with the law of the Lord." Thoses villains ignore that. They wantonly employ the poor people's obedience contrary to the law of the Lord and infuse them with this poison, cursing, and blasphemy. In the same way the pope also held us captive with the declaration in Matthew 16 {:18], "You are Peter," etc, inducing us to believe all the lies and deceptions that issued from his devilish mind. He did not teach in accord with the word of God, and therefore he forfeited the righ to teach.

Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let they stay at home. (...remainder omitted).

Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping. The reason for such a measure is that, as said above, they have no other means of earning a livelihood than usury, and by it they have stolen and robbed from us all they possess. Such money should now be used in no other way than the following: Whenever a Jew is sincerely converted, he should be handed one hundred, two hundred, or three hundred florins, as personal circumstances may suggest. With this he could set himself up in some occupation for the support of his poor wife and children, and the maintenance of the old or feeble. For such evil gains are cursed if they are not put to use with God's blessing in a good and worthy cause.

Seventh, I commend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, as was imposed on the children of Adam (Gen 3[:19]}. For it is not fitting that they should let us accursed Goyim toil in the sweat of our faces while they, the holy people, idle away their time behind the stove, feasting and farting, and on top of all, boasting blasphemously of their lordship over the Christians by means of our sweat. No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants.
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Invisible Fan · Apr 17, 2007

Mr. Brightside said:

This is shady reporting at its best. It never mentions what illicit activity the victims were engaged in. For all I know they could have been molesting children.
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Jack the Ripper killed prostitutes.

hotballa · Apr 17, 2007

pouhe said:

You must be talking about Christianity.
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I'd like to know how that is an appropriate response to CaseyH's post. I don't know his religion nor whether even if he has one.

Mr. Clutch · Apr 17, 2007

pouhe said:

You must be talking about Christianity.
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1483-1546

You went back 500 years.

Pole · Apr 17, 2007

Mr. Clutch said:

1483-1546

You went back 500 years.
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Maybe he didn't.........maybe the rest of the world has just come forward 500 years.

Dairy Ashford · Apr 17, 2007

Mr. Clutch said:

1483-1546

You went back 500 years.
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Insincerely and derisively referring to it as a "religion of peace" attacks both the contemporary behavior of Muslims and the historical tenets of their faith, the latter of which go back a tad farther than 500 years.

Dairy Ashford · Apr 17, 2007

Ehsan said:

Mehh. Kill the judges, ther will be more. No one will care. Personally, I don't care for the judges or the victims. If you watch videos of the supreme court judges you will be in awe of how barabaric they are.

As for the victims, they were nazis (literally) who went around raping little boys. They go around spewing things about Aryan blood, kidnapping every colored person and murdering them, raping children.

So mehh.. Don't waste your breath on this one.
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Not a big fan of vigilante justice, but thanks for the additional context.

halfbreed · Apr 17, 2007

Ehsan said:

Mehh. Kill the judges, ther will be more. No one will care. Personally, I don't care for the judges or the victims. If you watch videos of the supreme court judges you will be in awe of how barabaric they are.

As for the victims, they were nazis (literally) who went around raping little boys. They go around spewing things about Aryan blood, kidnapping every colored person and murdering them, raping children.

So mehh.. Don't waste your breath on this one.
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Yeah...let's just forget that whole rule of law thing. We should leave it up to the citizenry to determine who should be killed and let them do it.

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