How many wins must we win to consider JVG's year a success If you say . . JUST MAKE THE PLAYOFF . .. I think that is wrong becuase .. .if they win 47 and make the playoffs and you are happy then that BS about us not making the playoffs is 4 years is out I think we have to win at least 55 games 50 games should have come just on basic improvement and the team 'gelling' Anything less than 55 Is good. Anything less than 50 means he was not THAT BIG A SPLASH Rocket River
Whoever polled 60+ has to be joking. Or has to be rockets#1. We are by no means a well oiled machine. Lets not get carried away.
So this team is still years away from contending? So this team cannot think about being in the top 4 in the West? Why? Boy we looking awfully close!
46 wins. Barely sneak into the playoffs. Make a lot of noise in the playoffs and will not bow out before the conference semis, and after a tough fight. Might go further.
I think these deals help us push past Phoenix and start thinking about passing up Portland for a 6th seed. I think I said 45 wins or so earlier this summer. Ill go with 48-49 wins now. 60+ is awfully high considering we will be playing SA, Minny and Dallas 4-5 times each.
48 wins while holding on to the 7th seed for most of the season but losing it and ending up in the 8th seed spot.
I am thinking 50-54 as we speak. I still need to see the product before firming up the contention for top 4 in the West. I certainly do not see the Wolves ahead of us. And the Kings for that matter.
I actually thought around 47 - 48 wins. But... talent wise, this is a 50 win team, which is why I voted that. Hopefully JVG can bring the most out of this team.
Playoffs 7th or 8th...less than 50 wins. We've had talent, we've improved upon it. But we also have many new players and a new coach with a new system. We'll have roughly the same record against the WC playoff teams, but I don't see us splitting season series' with the likes of Cleveland or the Knicks...or even Boston.
So if we make 47 wins and are on the outside looking in again [like we were a few years back] . .. you would be irate BUT if we 47 and get in . .. it is a success? interesting. So success depends on other teams around u not self improvement I think we were bound for the playoffs did Rudy's health failed I think we would have made the playoffs this year w/o Van Gundy [some teams have fallen hard] So that is why I need more than Just Playoffs. I need AT LEAST a 7 game improvement from 43 wins to 50 wins is not unreasonable IMO Rocket RIver
Here's the problem getting 7 more wins... The Rockets swept BOS, ORL, PHI, DEN, & TOR. This would have to be repeated to have no net effect. The Rockets split the season series with LAL, SAC, MINN, NJ, IND, NO. If they lose the season series 3-1 to LAL, SAC. & MINN, and lose the season series to just one of those EC teams, they must make up 11 wins elsewhere to get to 50 wins . The Rockets were swept by DAL & DET. The Rockets must split the season series to gain back 3 games. 8 now needed for 50. The Rockets were 3-1 vs PHX, MEM, & GS. Let's realistically say theY REMAIN go 3-1 with PHX & MEM and sweep GS. 't see 50 wins happening. And I won't be a bit "irate" with 47 wins. The 2002-03 43 win Rockets had the second fewest minutes missed to injury of any starting 5 last season. You can count on that not happening again for sure. As said before...new players, new coach, new system.
Oh my God I love it!!! I'm glad my love for the Rockets is known to others hahaha! 50 wins no doubt, that's what I chose
DAMN IT...NO EDIT Here's the problem getting 7 more wins... The Rockets swept BOS, ORL, PHI, DEN, & TOR. This would have to be repeated to have no net effect. 12-0 so far. The Rockets split the season series with LAL, SAC, MINN, NJ, IND, NO. If they lose the season series 1-3 to LAL, SAC. & MINN, and lose the season series to just one of those EC teams, they must make up 11 wins elsewhere to get to 50 wins. 17-13 so far. The Rockets were swept by DAL & DET. The Rockets must split the season series to gain back 3 games. 8 now needed for 50. Or 20-16 so far. The Rockets were 3-1 vs PHX, MEM, & GS. Let's realistically say theY REMAIN 3-1 with PHX & MEM and sweep GS. Still need 7 games for 50 wins. Or 30-18 so far. The Rox were 1-3 vs SA. Let's be optimistic and get a split. Six games needed or 32-20. Versus the 11 remaining teams, the Rox were 12-18.... LAC..........2-2 SEA..........2-2 POR..........1-3 UTA..........1-3 MIL...........1-1 CHI...........1-1 CLE..........1-1 ATL...........1-1 MIA...........1-1 WAS.........1-1 NY.............0-2 3-1 vs LAC, POR, UTA & 2-2 vs POR. 43-25. There are now 14 games with 7 EC teams. The must split with everyone to get 50. For every series they lose. they must sweep another EC team to stay at 50. I just don't see 50 as being a walk in the park.
people seem to be answering what they think will happen, but the poll is asking what would make jvg a success, which i assume means having done better than rudy. just on the fact yao should be improved and the team more used to each other, i would think 4 or 5 more wins should be expected. then having added piatkowski and griffin to the bench while getting a better sf in jackson should be about 2 or 3 more wins. 50 wins should just be a natural progression. i might subtract 2 or 3 for the top of the west getting even stronger but then added 1 or 2 for the east getting even weaker. so i still say 49-50 is just natural and was to be expected under rudy (unless you think we were just gonig to win 43 ad infinitum no matter how good anyone got). while i like the breakdown GATER, this doesn't seem to be like us sweeping the entire central division, something you really couldn't expect to happen again. i mean, i'm sure we won't win the same amount against everyone, but we'll probably win more against some other teams, and eventually, if we're gonna start winning 50-60 games and being contenders, we gotta start beating teams more eventually. it just seems harder when you break it down individually like that (at least it seems harder to me than it really is to add wins). 49-50 won't be easy, but i would think it's expected and we'll probably add wins where it wouldn't seem obvious. so in conclusion, since 49-50 should be expected, jvg needs to win 52-53 to have an above average campaign. if we win 55, the jvg statue in my front yard project will commence.
Well, if the Rockets split all 82 games, they win 41. There are more bad teams than good teams, so you hope for a little better than that. Thank God Utah will suck. I'm guessing they don't overpower the league with a steamroller lineup like LA, Dallas, or maybe Minnesota. That means they have to win with smarts. Ok. We also have a small team that does not pass. Confidence not exactly brimming over...
Why is 49 wins expected? Personally, I'm not convinced the Rockets would have won many more games under RT than they did under Larry Smith. The Rockets reached a highwater mark of 23-15 when they beat the Lakers on January 17th. Among the opening 23 wins were a plethora of non-playoff teams and one over of the Shaq-less Lakers. They were 35-30 when Smith took over for RT. That means they were 12-15 in Tomjanovich's last 27 games. IIRC, Rocket River is a card carrying PRC member so I'm a little skeptical about objectivity.
