hes obviously not a great jumper but he still manages to pull down boards, probably because he beats Yao to the ball. carl landry is our best rebounder by far. the guy gets so many offensive boards.
he's averaging double digit rebounds over the past 20 games. i don't know why all of a sudden he's getting so many but if he can do this for a whole season then he will be considered one of the best rebounders in the nba. only 11 guys in the league are averaging double digit rebounds this season. scola is currently #23 in rebounding on the season with 8.7 per game. by the way here are last month averages from yahoo sports: Luis Scola - .545(FG%) .820(FT%) 13.7(PTS) 10.5(REB) 1.7(AST) 0.6(STL) 0.2(BLK) 2.1(TO) Tim Duncan - .432(FG%) .638(FT%) 14.8(PTS) 10.4(REB) 2.9(AST) 0.9(STL) 1.5(BLK) 2.2(TO) no, he's no tim duncan... but it is fun to see.
Hard to say, I think he's very scrappy and resilent without other worldly athleticism. Rebounding can be a dirty job, though. High numbers are usually reserve for good to really great centers and power-forwards, athletic ones, or well-built ones. Yet, I don't think he quite fits in the category with Charles Oakley or Horace Grant...Bill Laimbeer (maybe the effort and flopping). I don't think he's great at boxing out, but can fight for rebounds, though. I think he's better than some stars, like Boozer, Bosh, Nowitzki, and possibly Gasol. Most of them are very average at rebounding (which is why they probably aren't considered the "best" power forwards) and even less effective against more physical (and bigger) players. (I'd even say, if they played in 80s or 90s, most of them would be closer to 6 or 7 a game). They get bullied around alot in those situations. Yet with Scola, he seems to put up fight even against the toughest power forwards, defensively and rebounding. I'd say on a scale from 1 to 10. Howard being a 10, the average pg being a 1, and players from the past, likes E.Hayes, Wilt, and Rodman being 12+. I would say Scola is a solid 8. One of the better ones on this team.
It's easy to pad your rebounding stats as a PF when your teammate C is pretty much immobile. Thank god for Scola.
Actually it's Scola who is waiting on the other line. Rebounds per minute: Scola 0.29 Hayes 0.28 Landry 0.23 Scola doing a great job on the boards. Completely disagree that he's doing well simply because Ming is 'immobile' (??) - I don't recall having any other PF alongside Ming who rebounded as well as Scola currently is. Whether or not Ming is mobile is irrelevant - if the other player isn't a good rebounder, they might as well be 'immobile' too...
I should have added that I don't consider Ming to be 'immobile' or a terrible rebounder. Yes, he has a height advantage, but I can't remember any other guys over 7'4 who have been better rebounders? (maybe Muresan for one season?) And, just so it's clear I'm not Ming bashing, Ming is at 0.293 rebounds per minute (more than our best rebounding PF, Scola).
Yeah, for one season Muresan was at 11.7 Reb per 36 minutes. But Yao has consistently been at or above 10 Reb per 36 minutes every season. Manute Bol was never a great rebounder. Shawn Bradley and Rik Smits were 'meh'. Mark Eaton was probably a notch below where Yao is now. Ralph Sampson was better when he first came in the league but he fell off quickly. Who else is there? Yao may indeed be the most consistent 7'4"+ rebounder in league history.
cozs Yao box out well and unselfish, every pf we have (scola, landry, hayes) has a reputation being good rebounder.
That's the guideline DrNuegebauer had in his post. Plus, if 7'+ wasn't freakishly tall already, there are only a handful of players who have played in the NBA that have been over 7'3" or 7'4". The have been plenty of 7'1" and 7'2" centers. From a limited sample, it seems that the guys who are 7'3"+ aren't as effective at rebounding as guys in the 6'10"-7'2" range. That's why maybe you want to compare Yao to Bradley, Smits, or Eaton instead of Dwight Howard or Tim Duncan who are both 6'11".
that yao's a poor rebounder (and a poor shot blocker) is really a myth. his reb. rate has always been fairly good and more than decent. he just is slow at those rebounds or loose balls that are out of his immediate reach. also, opponents pushes a lot (and often get away with it), which makes his butter finger problem seem worse than it really is.
Plus, I notice the scorekeepers sometimes undercount Yao Ming's rebounding, like sometimes I have noticed when he gets the offensive board, and he tips it in, the scorekeepers sometimes don't credit him with the rebound he deserves in the box score. The scorekeepers definitely undercount Yao Ming's blocks per game, as I have counted 9 games where they have undercounted it.
Scola is not a great rebounder in the classic definition of the term (8.8 doesn't blow me away), but I'd consider him a great rebounder in relation to the rest of the league this season and especially with the way he's rebounded lately (11.44 RPG in 18 games post All-Star break). He's basically in the 95th percentile for rebounding among rotation players (assuming each team plays about 9 guys). He's still in the 78th percentile if you only base the comparison on pairs of starting PF's and C's. When you're better at a skill than 4 out of every 5 players at a similar position, I consider that great. Not to mention, Luis plays next to Yao who is an even better rebounder and therefore reduces his opportunities.
