[School Shootings] Another apparent attempt is foiled....

Why don't high schoolers just go back to getting drunk, stoned and the pursuit of sex.

 

They just had to throw that in there, didn't they? Thank god it was prevented.

 

Really. I hate when people try to blame this sort of stuff on movies, music, games, etc.

The same thing happened in my town, Jonesboro, AR which was the site of the 1998 shootings at Westside Middle School. A teacher from that school tried to blame Bone Thugs-N-Harmony for the children's violent acts.

 

There are plenty of kids out there that actually look up to the Columbine shooters. There are websites dedicated to them. It's unbelievable.

I don't know if these kids are really able to grasp exactly what they did. I don't think they really understand. Very sad.

 

no kidding. how about parents become accountable for their kid's cruel bullying towards the "oddballs". it's just too convenient to make video games the scapegoat.

 

Given that study after study shows a connection between violence in the media (games, tv, etc) and violent behavior in children and teenagers, I think its just as dangeous to ignore that as a contributing factor and just blame the parents as it is to just blame video games.

 

Yes, there's been numerous studies that show there was no violence before TV was invented.

 

i agree with you. video games should not be ignored. what IS being ignored are the parents. when was teh last time a story like this mention parenting as a contributing factor? and i'm talking about the parents of both the bullies and the "oddballs".

 

Sort of off subject... but I don't like the subject matter of most popular music now-a-days, these singers/rappers/artists act as if their songs don't effect people. Either depressing music like these kids more than likely listened to, or look at me I'm rich and I got rich by ropping people music, or look at me I'm a little w**** and everyone loves me music. MTV is full of that crap... Video games and movies? That's not as bad, for some reason I think words are more dangerous...

 

It's a chicken or the egg argument though. Are these types of kids creating this type of music or is this type of work creating this type of kid? More likely than not the subject matter is a reflection of the person not the other way around. If your a thug or someone who wishes to portray themselves as such you will make music that reflects that; if you are angry or depressed your music is going to reflect that. Art (generous in raps case) has been around forever and it is more a reflection of the artist than anything else. These kids are merely identifying with people who feel the same as they do. Sort of a clothes don't make the man type of thing.

 

people who plan school shootings dont have friends to get drunk with and cant talk to girls so they're labled "outcasts"....its a shame..

 

i'd say it's a number of things.

1) Parents (having both your parents working)
2) Movies/Games/Music
3) Schools (Not taking action against the bully)

You don't see kids doing this in other countries, it's not a problem. Therefore, it has to be the environment of the households.

 

maybe in most other countries it far harder to score firearms..
anyways, good thing they got busted, and on their own stupidity too, who posts on myspace.com about shooting up a school...

 

That's a pretty bold conclusion IMO. Like xenchimera posted, getting fire arms in other countries aren't nearly as easy as the U.S. You can blame it on the movies, games, music or whatever but kids in other countries usually watch and play the same movies, games, music, etc...I agree that it is probably the environment of the households, but you can't let a few rotten apples spoil the whole barrell.

Glad to see these kids got caught, something similar happened at Dulles in Sugar Land a couple months back IIRC.

 

They create what the record companies will sell, the radio stations play what the record companies put out, and I think the people in charge of the record companies/radio stations/MTV are all going to hell, because they know exactly what they're doing. No one is born a thug, no is born angry and depressed, some people might be in specific points in time in their lives, but eventually most of them change. However, will record companies sell the new and improved you? Or will they start to sell the artists that aren't like that to begin with? Doesn't look like it to me, because they hardly ever change, and I hardly ever hear positive or at least non-negative music on the radio.

See, most kids are either stupid, impressionable or both, I've had friends who open up and tell me that they hate their lives, and most of the time their lives are fine. I was never surprised when I find out that they always loved to listen to stupid bands who sing about depressing crap. Eventually you would think Korn and Staind and the like would stop singing about self hate, they need to grow up and sing about something else, not about things they might have felt when they were 15. I used to like those bands because I thought I could relate to them, but after a while I grew up and realized that I was wrong, and that I was trying to relate to them, now those same bands sing about the exact same crap.

EDIT: Listen to Metallica's latest 3 albums, what the hell was that all about? THREE albums full of self-hate, what changed from their earlier I rule days? I bet they wanted to continue making the music that they used to make, but that won't cut it now-a-days. So, they sold out, and wrote stupid songs to please the record companies, and they were still over the radio even though their music sucked. And I know that they knew it sucked because they sounded like an uninspired, if you listen to their Garage Days album it's the best most inspired music they've done in years. All of the songs were recorded in ONE session, and they sounded awesome, because that's the music they truly enjoy, not the crap the record companies want them to sing.

Rappers are even worse, they flash are their bling and their lifestyles in the faces of people who can't have it, basically saying I'm happier and better than you. Their fans want some of that too, problem is most of them don't have the money to buy it so they commit crime to get it, afterall that's what the rappers rap about. Rappers need to get smart, I mean, maybe you did some crime when you were younger, but now you're a millionaire and you don't need to break any crimes, unless you want to raise up your street cred'. These guys have a voice that can reach and influence millions, rap about some REAL ****, not about money, violence, drinking, drug dealing/using, degrading women and dance clubs.

And everyone who says this stuff about where are the parents, it's the parents fault, and blah blah blah. Do you honestly think they want their kids to shoot up their schools? Or to act like thugs? No, most of them are trying to raise their children right, but it's being made more and more difficult with the stupid crap out there, easily accessible I might add, for their kids to listen to. That's what I think...

 

IBIGTTDND

(In before it goes to the D&D )

 

Funny, but it won't because everytime I make my thoughts on subjects like these known people they think I'm crazy so they just leave me alone, whatever, I'm right they're wrong.

 

ppl in places like kansas and colorado must be REALLY BORED lol....

u always hear of stories of bored white folks doing crazy things...

well actually, texas is no better. lol...

like that cult in waco texas that blew the place up... and heaven's gate cult was also founded in houston... texas got crazy folks too.. lol

anyway why cant these ppl be normal and try to get laid by as many beautiful healthy females as possible?? i just dont get it..

 

oh and another thing...
that black trenchcoat thing is really WEIRDO...

kinda creepy WTF is wrong with these MORONS?

"IM SOOPUER COOL CAUZE I DONT GIVA DAMM ABOUT OTHER PPPL AND I LIKE TO DO WEIRD THINGS I GO OUT OF MY WAY TO DO WEIRD THINGS SO PPL THINK IM WEIRD AND THEN IM CONTENT BEING A WEIRDO.. BEING A WEIRDO IS MY LIFE AND ALL MY FRIENDS ARE WEIRDOS TOO.. WE ALL MAKE A GOOD WEIRDO GROUP AND DO WEIRDO THINGS LIKE WEARING BLACK TRENCHCOATS AND SHOOT PPL WITH MY WEIRDO GUN.. CUZ IM SUPER COOL LIKE THAT YA DIG??"

nah but seriously,,, wtf goes thru their minds ??