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S. Florida Sun-Sentinel: Nasty isn't in Yao's nature

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  1. kryten128

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    Posted on Sun, Jan. 25, 2004

    Nasty isn't in Yao's nature
    BY IRA WINDERMAN
    South Florida Sun-Sentinel

    MIAMI - (KRT) - This time there will be no fortune-cookie fiasco when Yao Ming arrives Monday night at AmericanAirlines Arena.

    No, the Miami Heat marketing department has shown restraint after last season's much-mocked giveaway - and seemingly the entire NBA has wised up when it comes to the 7-foot-6 Houston Rockets center.

    Make no mistake, Yao, averaging 16.5 points and 9.3 rebounds, remains an impact player, a remarkably skilled big man. But the hype has been muted this season, what with LeBron James taking over as the league's resident phenom.

    Last season's Next Great Thing now looks like the next very good thing, a player, who, at 23, certainly will have an influence for years to come, but one who most likely never will tread in the same pantheon as Wilt, Russell or Kareem.

    Be it cultural or personal, Yao has stood as imposing mostly because of his stature. His aggression is limited. There have been no flying elbows, no chest bumps, none of the nasty streak many expected first-year Rockets coach Jeff Van Gundy to foment.

    ``You're aware that he's there,'' Timberwolves forward Kevin Garnett said after a recent meeting. ``But you don't go in there thinking, `I'm going to change my shot.' If anything, you are going to try to put it down his throat - try to dunk on him or something like that.

    ``If I drive to the basket, if he's there, he's there. I'm not the least intimidated.''

    Nor is the Shanghai native viewed as particularly athletic. What he is, what he has emerged as, is a marvelously talented player, an elongated Bill Walton, if you will. Sunday, Yao had his way against the Orlando Magic, with a career-high 37 points, with nine of his 15 baskets coming on jumpers.

    ``His execution is exemplary of the fact that basketball is really a game of skill, timing and position, not so much size and strength,'' Walton said while working as an analyst on ESPN2's coverage of Rockets-Knicks last week.

    The countermeasures have been nagging double- and triple-teams, tactics that have had the Rockets' staff moving Yao even farther from the rim, a compromise opponents willingly accept - reducing the game's most imposing presence to a 16-foot jump shooter, albeit a darned good one, and a superb passer.

    ``I'd much rather have him doing that than pulling another Shaquille O'Neal,'' Heat center Brian Grant said.

    Of course, this also is not ``the second coming of LaRue Martin,'' as ESPN's Dick Vitale predicted in 2002.

    While the numbers are up across the board, they are not LeBronesque. The only area Yao ranks in the league's top 10 is his fourth-place standing in field-goal percentage, at .531. Otherwise he ranks in the teens in rebounds and blocked shots, and not even that high in scoring, with Sunday's effort his first of 30 or more this season. Point guard Steve Francis remains Stevie Franchise, the Houston player most likely to beat you, as he did last season at AmericanAirlines Arena by converting a crucial 3-pointer.

    ``You're going to see him really take off in the second half of the year,'' Rockets scout Andy Greer predicted. ``I think people are going to come to realize he is the dominant force that everybody expected, it's just taken him time to adjust to a new system.''

    For his part, Van Gundy has been pushing Yao to push himself. Having staked a reputation by attaching himself to Alonzo Mourning's leg like some sort of pit bull during the height of Knicks-Heat, Van Gundy issued his challenge earlier this season.

    ``He needs to elbow somebody in the face when they come down to double-team him the first time,'' Van Gundy said, as if Yao ever could turn into Mourning. ``He's very kind when people come down there.''

    Yao has taken it in stride.

    ``He's teaching me to be more aggressive and the whole team is encouraging me too,'' he said.

    Then there is Francis, who said he wouldn't mind a turn on the U.S. Olympic team in Athens, if only to get in a shot on Yao and jolt the center.

    ``I want him to dunk the basketball a lot more than he does and just think more aggressively in general,'' Francis said.

    Former national team teammate Wang Zhi-Zhi said the shift from the international game can be an eye-opener.

    ``The NBA is hard,'' the Heat reserve center said. ``A little foul is no foul. In the NBA, the defense can push.''

    Another factor is the constant movement between commitments with the Chinese national team and the NBA schedule.

    ``The one thing people don't realize is that he's been going for three years straight, without a break,'' Greer said. ``I think now he's starting to get into better shape. The level of play over in China and the expectations are certainly different than they are here.''

    Listed at 310 pounds, Yao is up 20, after an offseason of weight training.

    Grant said he noticed the difference in the first game of the two-game season series.

    ``You try to stay underneath him and keep him off balance,'' the 6-9 Heat center said. ``It worked last year to do it that way. But this year I tried and his legs got a little stronger - or I got a little weaker, I don't know.''

    Yao closed the Rockets' Nov. 11 90-70 victory over the visiting Heat with 16 points, eight rebounds and a career-high seven blocked shots in 32 minutes.

    As much as anything, Yao's game-by-game statistics are telling.

    Teams that play a physical style, such as Detroit, can limit his impact. Teams that lack aggression, such as New York and Orlando, have had problems, especially with Yao developing an upgraded hook shot.

    To some, it is unfathomable that someone so immense can produce outings such as these: four points, five rebounds against Detroit; nine points, six rebounds against Boston; 13 points, six rebounds against Memphis. All have come in the past three weeks. All have come in losses.

    After scoring a season-high 29 last week against the Knicks, Yao mused, ``Something good has fallen out of the sky.''

    When Yao entered the NBA last season, few expected such future adjectives as docile, respectful, nice. Perhaps the league should have known better. This is, after all, a player who had been taught that dunking was a sign of disrespect for the opposition.

    Take an incident earlier this season, when Wizards 7-footer Brendan Haywood, considered one of the softest big men in the league, slammed Yao to the court.

    ``He was just trying to protect the basket,'' was Yao's response.

    Earlier this season, Yao reflected on what was and what will be.

    ``I think it is harder than last year,'' he said. ``Last year people didn't know my game, so I could take advantage of that sometimes. Now, everybody has studied me and knows how I play.

    ``I'm trying to learn how to be more aggressive. That isn't exactly in step with my original style of play. I have to figure out how to mix the two.''

    He is making the transition in relative anonymity. The pressure is off. Teams are not offering packages that guarantee tickets to Yao's appearances, as the Heat has with appearances by James.

    ``Earlier this year,'' Yao said, ``I was asked what I was thankful for this year, and my answer was, `LeBron James.'''

    As for what the Rockets could be thankful for, the outlook remains unclear, although Sunday offered a tantalizing hint.

    ``If he's to reach greatness,'' Van Gundy said, ``it will be at his own pace.''
     
  2. MFW2310

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    Man, talk about disrespect. Somebody needs to show this to Yao. That'll give him enough motivation to shove it up Ira Winderman and the Heat's collective asses.
     
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    Sounds like the guy wrote most of it before tonight's performance and inserted the stats to make it seem like it was up to date. He's totally ignored what Yao's done since the first Boston game.
     
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    Stat or not, he basically said Yao can't play near the basket. Show it to Yao.
     
  5. kryten128

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    This guy sounds like a true Yao cynic and a devout LeBron w****. He's pretty high on Stevie too, and I hope he turns out to be right about him at least.

    He would have had more credibility putting this out before the Orlando game. Yao's had a string of good games, with the Orlando one being the exclamation point. This guy must have been too busy jerking off thinking about LeBron James and missed what Yao did the past few games.
     
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    What part was it disrepectful to Yao? If anything, I think the writer was paying Yao compliments..I think??? I could be wrong...
     
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    Quote from Associated Press Game Recap:

    "Yao took advantage of a matchup against the undersized Andrew DeClercq, eight inches shorter and 55 pounds lighter, in the first half. At one point, Yao delivered a quick elbow to DeClercq's face, caught a pass from Mobley, knocked DeClercq down and dunked to give the Rockets a nine-point lead. " :D

    Brian Grant is next.
     
  8. forebay

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    what a piece of trash!
     
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    Read these lines, it doesn't get any more obvious than this:

    Last season's Next Great Thing now looks like the next very good thing

    Be it cultural or personal, Yao has stood as imposing mostly because of his stature. His aggression is limited.

    ``You're aware that he's there,'' Timberwolves forward Kevin Garnett said after a recent meeting. ``But you don't go in there thinking, `I'm going to change my shot.' If anything, you are going to try to put it down his throat - try to dunk on him or something like that.

    ``If I drive to the basket, if he's there, he's there. I'm not the least intimidated.''

    Nor is the Shanghai native viewed as particularly athletic. What he is, what he has emerged as, is a marvelously talented player, an elongated Bill Walton, if you will. Sunday, Yao had his way against the Orlando Magic, with a career-high 37 points, with nine of his 15 baskets coming on jumpers.

    The countermeasures have been nagging double- and triple-teams, tactics that have had the Rockets' staff moving Yao even farther from the rim, a compromise opponents willingly accept - reducing the game's most imposing presence to a 16-foot jump shooter, albeit a darned good one, and a superb passer.

    Teams that play a physical style, such as Detroit, can limit his impact. Teams that lack aggression, such as New York and Orlando, have had problems, especially with Yao developing an upgraded hook shot.

    To some, it is unfathomable that someone so immense can produce outings such as these: four points, five rebounds against Detroit; nine points, six rebounds against Boston; 13 points, six rebounds against Memphis. All have come in the past three weeks. All have come in losses.


    Take an incident earlier this season, when Wizards 7-footer Brendan Haywood, considered one of the softest big men in the league, slammed Yao to the court.
     
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    You know he had the article all written up, thinking "pretty good, take a few quotes from early in the season, take another few that don't support my point, call it an article. Hey it's Miami, no one reads."

    Then 37/10 happens.

    "Crap!"

    Watches the land-moving, monster dunks on Sportscenter.

    "Double Crap!!"

    "Ugh... it's late.... '9 of his 15 FGM were jumpers'... sounds good... keep the 'gentle giant' stuff... "
     
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    Of course, he failed to mention that Haywood PUSHED Yao to the floor with both hands instead of actually bullying him.
     
  12. fietguy

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    this writer is a frikkin idiot...

    dont keep your day job buddy...or lebron w****...

    fails to mention:

    yao changes the entire offense and defense, alters shots and intimidates...

    plays smart, doesn't take stupid shots and always has a teamates back...

    honestly, who in the nba is more aggressive than Yao now?

    nobody, but shaq...yao was just nasty tonite...he handed declerq his teeth back
     
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    What is LeBronesque numbers?

    Lebron has 6 stats ranked inside NBA top 10, which is:

    #5 in minutes per game.
    #8 in field goal attempts.
    #3 in TOTAL TURNOVER.
    #3 in TURNOVERS PER GAME.
    #6 in TUNOVERS PER 48 MINUTES.
    #10 in ASSISTS PER GAME.

    1 good stats and 3 bad stats, the other 2 makes no sense. That looks more bad than good to me.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  14. ROXRAN

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    This is a piece of written crap that is obviously slanted with peculiarities...Hello? Yao is, and has been hitting stride...The piece seems at least a month old, and like someone pointed out, sloppily refreshed with stats...Perhaps IRA was bored, and decided to write something during an elongated bout on the toilet...
     
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    yeah, hes totally right. i mean they did a really good job on him the first time they played this year. he only got 24 pts and 20+ rebounds in that game:rolleyes:
     
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    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    IRA WINDERMAN: 100% USDA-certified LeBron w****
     
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    Who cares? I personally like being under the radar and people underestimating our guys. The coaches and players on opposing teams know what we're capable of, and what Yao's capable of as he continues to progress day in and day out. His marginal numbers from the games he's mentioned haven't been because of his lack of agression, but the fact that teams were double and triple teaming him to the point where he had few opportunities to grab the ball, and the rest of our guys on the court weren't able to convert those mismatch opportunities enough to make them play honest on Yao. Not to mention those teams we lost in those 3 weeks he mentioned were on a big win streak with the exception of Boston. And against Boston we absolutely torched them the following outing and Yao put up big numbers to redeem himself. I hope these writers and analysts keep us under the radar because it makes wins that much more fun.
     
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    Why you guys got so upset about an out-town writer who covers the team the Rockets are going to play today? You should keep this peace, send it to him after tonight's game.


    --daoshi
     
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    funny how this guy didnt mention that after Haywood clobbered Yao, he got up and proceeded to absolutely torch the wizards. In fact, that was probably the turning point to yao's season. At that point, he probably decided that he's not gonna take it anymore.

    Way to take KG's quote to make your point. Of course he's not going to admit that Yao made him change his driving shot in mid-air.

    I'm sure Yao didnt intimidate Lue, Gooden, and Howard after sending back all their trashy shots.
     
  20. ROXTXIA

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    A lot of these sports journalist clows are just frustrated a-holes who lucked out on a good job and yet still can't get laid.

    I mean, take a look at that guy's picture.

    Anyone remember "When Harry Met Sally"? (Hey, it was funny. So sue me.)

    "Harry, this is Ira."

    "Sally," says Harry, "this is Helen. And this is Ira."

    (after strained conversation with ex-wife and her new beau) "Good to see you, Helen. Nice to meet you....Ira."
     

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