Russia's right wing is egging on Texas' secessionist movement

Never heard of the Texas Nationalist Movement or Nathan Smith but then again I haven't lived in Texas for decades. Is there any serious following for this organization?

 

cutting edge journalism that relies on google translate?

click bait.

 

Translation: Russia is weak amd in crises mode. We, the US, don't even need to bring a fight to them - they've brought the fight to themselves 15-20 years ago.

 

Apparently this has been going on for awhile with Putin mentioning Texas in speeches and even having people go and troll online for Texas Secession.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/06/23/Why-Vladimir-Putin-Wants-Texas-Secede-US

Why Vladimir Putin Wants Texas to Secede from the U.S.

With the old Confederate battle flag very much in the news as a result of the horrific racist shooting in Charleston, S.C. last week, politicians across party lines are rushing to consign the symbol of Southern secessionism to museums, rather than to state capitols in former Confederate states.

But support for the secessionist cause still remains strong in…the Kremlin.

In a piece published in Politico, reporter Casey Michel outlines the deeply strange connection between the Texas National Movement, a group that advocates for Texas breaking away from the Union, and authorities in Russia.

Nathan Smith, the self-described foreign minister of TNM, has been welcomed at far right rallies in Russia, and feted by state media for describing the U.S. as being “not a democracy, but a dictatorship.”

The Kremlin has also apparently harnessed its considerable army of Internet “trolls” to gin up discussions of Texas eventually seceding from the Union on various platforms globally.

References to Texas have become strangely common in statements of Russian officials, up to and including President Vladimir Putin who, as Michel notes, accused the U.S. of “grabbing” Texas from Mexico in a rambling speech to the nation last December. (Texas, in fact, established its own independence from Mexico, establishing the Republic of Texas in 1836, nearly 10 years before voting to join the U.S.)

According to Michel, Texas isn’t the only place where Russia is encouraging separatist movements. Calls in Scotland, Venice and Catalonia to secede from the U.K., Italy and Spain, respectively, have also received support.

But Texas is by far the favorite target, and that’s largely because it helps feed a storyline that Putin has been pushing for more than a year now: that the U.S. is deeply hypocritical in condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula last year and the Kremlin’s continued support of separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine.

By invoking the memory of a revolution that took place 180 years ago — and didn’t actually involve the United States — Putin has sought to draw a sort of moral equivalence between his actions in Ukraine and the U.S. annexation of Texas in 1845, 10 years after the foundation of the Republic of Texas by its own citizens.

However, the Kremlin may be overestimating the alienation that Texans feel. Three of the last nine U.S. presidents, for example, have been from the state, and two more Texans, Rick Perry and Ted Cruz, are vying to win the White House in 2016.

Perry, probably the most high-profile advocate for his state, has made it clear that secession isn’t really in the cards. “We’ve got a great union,” he said during his last presidential run. “There is absolutely no reason to dissolve it.”

 

There are many historical examples of countries supporting secessionist movements in enemies' nations. I don't think there are many examples of such support making much of a difference.

 

Ukraine might disagree.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="614183082774532096"><p>slavery is a moral evil; secession itself is not. Secession is just a political choice, and frequently a good one @<a href="https://twitter.com/JordanAshcraft">JordanAshcraft</a></p>&mdash; TheUltraYachtLife (@AceofSpadesHQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/AceofSpadesHQ/status/614184377275314176" data-datetime="2015-06-25T16:32:21+00:00">June 25, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Military conquests dressed up like secessionist movements should probably go into a different category. Though it'd be hilarious to see active Russian military personnel put on 10-gallon hats, ****kicker boots, and big shiny belt buckles and come pretend to be Texans fighting for their freedoms.

 

We could secede if we really wanted.

 

And in 50 years Texas/U.S. border would be the new Mexican border where Texas nationals are illegally crossing the U.S. border for better opportunities and American conservatives are complaining about illegal Texas immigrants waiving Texas flags at their college graduation.

 

The GDP of Texas is similar to Russia -- that kind of puts into perspective how weak they've become.

 

at least in glorious soviet union, they're not changing the history textbooks!

 

My left nut. We'd probably be building a fence across the border to keep the yankies out while we enjoy our free trade with Mexico.

 

Might explain all the mojo pictures of Putin by righties here

 

Too late, unfortunately.

 

Actually union people can't immigrate here fast enough as it is. Look at the numbers.

Putin wants to weaken the union by breaking off the strongest piece.

Lol union people.

 

I have a better idea: let Russia take all the wingnuts freaking out about marriage equality and science.

 

The Germans tried to pull in Mexico against us in both World Wars. Something about promising them back that land we stole less than a hundred years before...

We pretty much guaranteed Panama's independence from Columbia in order to finish the canal.

Whitewashing textbooks to make the success stories look more organic paints a better picture for us at the very least.

 

After eight years of Obama and his use of an SS-like IRS, maybe using the treaty provision allowing Texas secession might not be such a bad idea. If Hillary actually does win in 2016, I may shift my views and support it.