This is the single most annoying, frustrating problem with VG's offense...and the reason why it irks me so is that it is the main reason for out low scoring outputs, and yet can be SO easily fixed. A typical ROX play: Our guard initiates the offense to the same side as Yao... Yao turns and posts (he is open and calling)...the guards then dribbles to the other side or passes to the wing on the other side...Yao and the Rox then go into a series of picks hoping to post someone else or repost himself, but this time the defense is settled and wrestling Yao every step he takes through the paint. WWWHHHHYYYYY!!!!???? GIVE HIM THE DAMN BALL WHEN HE IS OPEN THE FIRST TIME FOR PETE'S SAKE! Why do we waste time, energy and easy opportunities for the sake of running the damn play to its entirety. If Yao's open with good position, just give it to him. He often "re-fights" for worse position because the defense knows what is coming and is ready for it. I just don't understand why VG can't make our team do certain things the easy way...
Because this would negate the whole purpose of JVG's offense-to use as much clock as possible. Also, you probably could have put this in another tread.
beyao- EXACTLY this is so obvious and frustrating to me. Just my opinion but we have to let Yao make some mistakes and improve with the offense running through him. Yao right now only has two things to do as long as he stays aggressive, first he must overcome the fronting defense (coaching and scheme would help him) second he must settle on his go to move, and frankly he is developing a couple right now.
We need an offensive coordinator. Kevin Gilbride??? Oh wait that's football, and Buddy Ryan busted him in his face. Denfense wins again.
Yao said himself that he likes to catch the ball while he is moving. The opposing team seemed to figure out how to bother Yao if he catches the ball while his foot is planting. Personally, I love to see Yao pass back and reposts and up under, boom. Also, it's not like Yao's non-factor in the loss. He did put up 27 pts. We do have Tmac. Gumpy trust him more than Yao now.
i still have high hopes for Yao...... but he needs to make a better target for the entry pass. IMO, he still does a sub-par job in sealing off the defender. When Dream posted up, the ball would be fired in there because the passer trusted that he'd come up w/it......maybe what we're seeing is the result of the passer's lack of confidence in Yao's ability to beat the defense to the ball.
ICAM! I wish I could reach through my TV and smack those PG's upside the head every time they do that. Don't they realize that Yao would be alot less tired and more effective if he did not have to battle position for 10-12 sections each time down the floor. I get the feeling that outside of TMac, Boki and Padgett, everyone else resents having to pass the ball to Yao.
I mentioned this exact thing in another thread awhile back. Yao is essentially posting twice on every offensiive set no matter how good the original post position was. It is idiotic to have Yao do this because he gets so tired so easily, this part of the offense must be reworked right now. Nothing good ever comes of it and the only purpose it serves is to tire out our big man and to make it appear as if JVG is a great defensive coach by keeping scores low. The first 15 seconds of our possesions are completely pointless. I absolutely abhore watching this team most of the time because the product is such that the only thing more boring are reruns of Ron Popeil's latest infomercial.
Our PGs are too short in passing the ball to Yao who is too slow. Let's get a tall PG or let a taller player pass Yao the ball.
That still doesn't diminish the fact that our players run around with their fingers up their butts for most of each possesion. We do indeed have a problem getting the ball to Yao but I would think the problem would be greater the closer one gets to commiting a shot clock violation when there is a sense of urgency and opposing players know this and turn up their defense a bit too.
A very good observation. I thought I was the only one noticing it. I've seen charlie ward done this countless number of times this year. These kinds of discussions are just so much better than the fire van gundy threads. Pass Yao the ***** ball when he's open underneath. When it happens a few times I was thinking ward and co. have the SF syndrome...but when I see that happen over and over again, I'm starting to think it's poorly designed. I swear if I see any more "Start Padgent because he had a great game" or fire JVG after 9 games I'm going to have to hurt somebody!
And what exactly is that purpose?? It makes sense to use up clock some of the time in order to get as high percentage a shot as possible...but the case I'm talking about here is when Yao has ALREADY established good position. What higher percentage shot is there than Yao in deep post? This doesn't take away from any other aspect of our defensive strategy, it only limits our offensive efficiency.
I think JVG's strategy is to use up the clock as much as possible in each possession. Why? I don't think it's because JVG wants to prove he's a great defensive coach by keeping the score low. The more probable reason is that JVG knows we cannot afford to play a high score running game with the other teams because the Rockets are relatively old and slow.
Sure, it makes sense to use come clock. But like SummerSong said, they don't pass it to Yao right off the back for the sole purpose of using clock, no matter how good of a position he has. JVG is making Yao set up in the post, manhandle himself through the paint, and then repost on the other side. JVG would pass up an early easy shot, like Yao deep in the post, to have the guards pass around the perimeter and then jack up a shot at the end.
JVG uses this strategy to limit the posessions of the other team, its not that bad of a strategy, just not the right one for this team.
