who is ray allen to say the coaches need to get their sh_t together.even if they do the team dont have to share their problems with the world with a media thats hungry to hype some negative vibes about the team for news. "Coach Allen' "! ------------------
they (the coaching staff) do need to get their SH_T together! if a player dosen't know if he should be in or not especially during crucial situations then its a PROBLEM. ------------------ [This message has been edited by wizard (edited October 01, 2000).]
Who is this Ray Allen guy? What team does he play for? I know a David Allen who plays for K-State(football). Oh, your talking about that guy in that movie. Ray Allen please he's not even the man in Milwaukee. Cassell runs that team. Ray Allen has no defense, neither does Allan Houston or Steve Smith. These three guys really suck in my opinion. Rudy T. will get the blame for this sad team. Just remember Kobe, Shaq and Duncan didn't play. Guys like Webber, Eddie Jones and even Sprewell didn't make the roster. This team will be ridiculed until there is another team that does worse. The players play the game not the coaches. I never saw on guy go to the floor for a loose ball(on purpose). I give no oppenents props for anything b/c they didn't play us well, we just played ourselves, period. ------------------
A not so flattering ESPN article on the US coaches: http://espn.go.com/oly/summer00/basketball/columns/wojnarowski_adrian/791701.html ------------------
Oh sorry, that was already posted! Next time I'll read all the topics before I post... ------------------
I love Rudy, and what happened is not his fault. Allen was wrong for saying that. But that is ridiculous. Allen is one of the top 2 or 3 SG's in the game. He IS a good defender, and can score, shoot, pass, defend, hustle, and do it all. Ask any Bucks fan or go to any Bucks BBS- Allen is the man in Milwaukee. No doubt about it. Believe me, I'm just as angry as you over what he said. It was completely out of line. But he is an extraordinary player, and one of the best guards in the league. Let's try and stay realistic. But then again, I don't think neither one of them care now. We got the gold! ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com Go Packers and Rams!
Allen was probably pretty disappointed that he didn't get as much court time as Carter when he definitely deserved more all tournament. He played amazingly during the tournament and was Mr instant offense. I don't think anybody had any answer for Ray Allen at any time (and neither they should) - but he still shouldn't have spoken to anybody about it who's not a part of the team. ------------------
I agree with CAT on this matter. Rudy is my boy, but for you guys to down Ray Allen skills shows your lack of basketball knowledge. That is not intended to diss anyone hear. However in all the USA games I saw him play in, he was the most consistant player there. In the particular game in question, Ray should have been in there. The LITH team was playing a hard zone, and the US had no jump shooters in the game. There were 3 guards (Kidd, Payton, Carter) and none of the guys have a pure jumper. They continued to try to drive and break down the zone, but they were not getting the fouls called and making turnovers. To break down a zone there has to be great outside shooting. My friends and I where watching the game and keep calling for Allen, Houston, or Smith to be put in to kill the zone. So I think he should have been in the game way earlier than the blow up. ------------------
I stick by what I said. Ray Allen sucks!!! I understand what you are saying but until Cassell is gone its Cassell's team. There already shopping Glenn Robinson. He's good but not great. Top 3 or 4? If he's top 4 then what is Cuttino #5? Cuttino is every bit as good as Allen. Both are good defenders and both can score, Cuttino needs time to develop still, Whats Allen's problem? Once again sorry if you don't agree, he is a good shooting guard but I wouldn't pick him for a team. Especially for the Olympics. Eddie Jones, Spree and Jalen Rose are players that come to mind. ------------------
"I never saw on guy go to the floor for a loose ball(on purpose)." McDyess, Shareef, and Zo were constantly going after loose balls, offensive rebounds, and blocking shots. I actually think that we had way too many perimeter players. It was sort of a mistake having Allan Houston, Steve Smith, and Ray Allen. They should have just had Allen and Smith. I think we should have had Finley in the Olympics instead of Houston because he is a much better player and can play better in the post. The games would not have even come close if our line-up would have consisted of... PG-Payton/Kidd SG-Kobe/Allen/Smith SF-Carter/Finley PF-Webber/Shareef/Baker C-Shaq/Mourning We would have definitely kicked @$$ if we could have gone with this team.
First of all, what game have you been watching? Cuttino isn't a good defender... Cuttino is good, and he is one of my favorite Rockets. But Ray Allen is on another planet from Cuttino. Allen is on that elite level, and I can't think of many teams that would prefer Jones, Spree, or Rose over him. In fact, I can't think of any except for their own. ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com Go Packers and Rams!
I'm not quite sure if TIburon knows anything about the situation in Milwaukee, but how can you say it is Cassells team? And you've obviously never seen Ray Allen play if you think he's no better than Mobley. That's like saying that Bryce Drew is as good as Gary Payton. ------------------
Talk about kitty pride. Ray Allen should not have been on that team. When he's making his shots, it's nice. However, he's very in-consistent. Top 2 or 3 SG in the league?! Hardly. Bryant Carter Drew Houston <hr> While we're on the topic of players who should and shouldn't have been on the Olympic "Dream" Team...Bryant, Duncan, Francis, Malone, O'Neal, Wallace, and Webber should have been invited (or accepted the invitation) and Allen, Baker, Hardaway, Kidd, and Smith should have stayed home. <hr> After the near incident, Carter, Tomjanovich, and Brown probably should have stayed home, too. ------------------ Not only have the Drew bashers crossed the line, but they've sprinted a couple of miles beyond it.
You can debate about whether Cassell or Allen is the leader of the Bucks, but when the game is on the line, it won't be Allen taking the shots. ------------------ Not only have the Drew bashers crossed the line, but they've sprinted a couple of miles beyond it.
It was last year... every single time I watched them in a close game in fact. Who was it taking the last shot in game 5 vs. the Pacers? Allen... As for the ones you listed, Houston isn't even in Allen's neighborhood. Carter plays SF, and remember Allen was selected ahead of Carter for that last spot. And if you want, go ahead and look at Allen's game by game stats from last year. He is unbelievably consistent, more so than almost any guard in basketball. ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com Go Packers and Rams!
Interesting, Ray Allen's 3-pt fg %(42.3) last year was almost the same as cut-tino's fg% (43%) ------------------ In order to be a success in life, you need 2 things: 1. Don't tell everything you know.
If Cassell is so much better than Allen then how come he hasn't gotten any movie roles since ET? ------------------ I am so exasperated that I could expectorate.
Did I say "taking the last shot?" I meant to say that when the game is on the line, it won't be Allen making the shots. ------------------ Not only have the Drew bashers crossed the line, but they've sprinted a couple of miles beyond it.
How creative to change that now. However, he's usually as clutch as any player too. It's not his fault in that Indiana game they passed it to him with one second left about 30 feet from the basket. ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com Go Packers and Rams!
Poor marketing after that Reese's fiasco. ------------------ Not only have the Drew bashers crossed the line, but they've sprinted a couple of miles beyond it.
