Let me clear first, this is not a complaint nor a criticism of anybody. But is it just me but do we really have the fewest plays in the NBA? - ISO for Steve and Mobley - drive and kick from Steve and Mobley - Yao/Mo/EG post up on LHS of the block - PnR involving Steve and Yao That's about it. How many times have we seen we run the same play over and over again? It's just too predictable and boring at times. Come on Rudy please draw some new plays and vary a bit to take full advantage of your talented players. BTW, where is the "motion offense"? I've watched a lot of Rox games this season and am yet to see it.
And uhhh... I just remember that Steve (or Cat) has said in pre-season that we have the most plays in NBA. Then why don't we run them?
Oh, I get it...Rudy still can't coach, huh? Whatever plays he is running are working. The Rockets are 8 games over .500. Their defense is amazing.
Yao's absence in the last summer camp might have something to do with this. Probably it's not easy to develop a new offense strategy when you have two new players in your team (Posey, Yao). The team has to learn the new thing and develop chemistry while playing the season at the same time, it's tough. You see Dallas this season has better defense compared to last season. Bottom line: If Rockets wants to be a serious Championship contender, Yao has to stay in the U.S. at summer time to practice. Otherwise, I'm afraid you'll see the same play.
He got good touches last night...just went through a horrible dry spell of missing shots after making his first 3.
That play that tied the game at the end of regulation has been used by us several times this year. Is anyone else suprised that other teams dont have that play scouted out or that we keep going to that play. Of course, as the saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I was a little surprised, but Phil Jackson isn't a big x's and o's type coach. His strength is in managing egos and getting multiple stars on the same page.
There is not much the defending team can do except get help from the defender covering Yao. However, that player is usually a slow big man who has really no chance of keeping up with Francise. It also helps that Yao has a reputation from the pre-draft workout that he can nail an open 3 point shot. So the opposing big man is slight hesitant with the help.
When I read this I don't understand. You said you weren't criticising anyone, then you go on to say Rudy uses the same old boring plays and he just uses the same ones..... Anyhow, onto the point. I've watched some tape of some older games "96-97" and I found a nice play that I think would suit Francis really well. I don't know any names for this play so bare with me, the play was used by the T'Wolves to free up Marbury for either a foul line jumper or an open lane to get an easy lay-in. 1) The PG would start the set from the right wing passing it to the top or the arc to the SF. The C would be attempting (making an option/pretending) to get post position in the right low blocks and after the pass to the PF would take one step out. The SG would be out on the arc on the right hand baseline and the PF would be on the left wing. 2) The SF would then dish to the PF and cut straight toward the C. (This would create alot of room in the paint) The PG then make a dummy cut towards the C and SF where they give the PG a double screen. The PG cuts to the foul line, recieves the ball and can choose the jumper or the lay-up. So there are three options with this play: 1) Dump it to the C in the low block via the SG. 2) Pass to the cutting PG who should have lost his defender 3) PF (Eddie) shoots a three ball. (not a great option, I know, I know) The problem with this is that the rules have changed and teams may opt to use a zone, therefor the spacing will not get the PG away from traffic, however, if a team decides to play man defense it is a good play to get Yao or Steve the ball IMO.
I think we need more plays if we really want to contend in the playoffs. But FOR NOW...we're doing fine. We are doing great. I did remember somebody saying that we have the biggest playbook in the league. I guess it's hard to remember. It doesn't matter. We're winning. I'll come back to this thread if we go on a 10 game losing streak.
I made a diagram of the play I was trying to describe. And if the pic doesn't work, try the page at the site. Set Diagram
As was already mentioned, you left out the Webber hand-off to Bibby play curling around to the key. That's 5. Then you left out the double high post PnR plays, which are much different that the normal High PnR. That's 6. Then you left out all the plays involving a swingman coming around picks for a J at the high post ala Reggie Miller...we do this more and more for Mobley. That's 7. Deal is is that you are simplifying your number 2, 3, 4 and making it sound like those have only one option. They don't. Those are merely the types of entries or sets. I mean, come on, how many sets did Sloan use in Utah's hey day. So, we have named at least 7 sets, and two or three of them are entry points to sophisticated motion as we develop more chemistry. As Webber said after the Dallas game, "it takes a long time to develop what we got." And here is what Nelson says about running the Dallas offense. <blockquote><hr> "We have a pretty complicated half-court system. It'll take some time to get used to it,'' Nelson said. "He doesn't have to just know the 3 position. There's another step to running the show, knowing all the options and that kind of stuff.'' Nelson already has a possible solution. "I have a way to simplify things, limit what he does,'' he said. "Maybe instead of going with five or six sets we'll go with one or two.<hr></blockquote> "Pretty complicated" but only 5 or 6 sets, and he'll simplify to one or two for new players. You make it sound like NBA teams have 100s of plays they call like quarterbacks. That isn't the way BBall is coached. You have a given number of sets with options and counter plays accompanying each one. BBall is a constant motion game, so you don't do just one play call and regroup. I don't understand. We are not the best team at reading all options and counters (when tend to get in a rut of using the most common options), but that has nothing to do with playcalling from the bench. That is 5 men making reads together. I mean, Dallas does penetrate, kick, swing, swing, swish with the best of them. But when you describe it, it doesn't sound that complicated. Who cares. It works, and it *is* a basketball system for them.
Rudy said that next year they will work on more complex plays that incorporate Yao and the rest of the team. He said on the Radio Show 610 that they have just skimmed the surface of what plays they will use in the future. But with Yao new to the team and the rest of the guys not familiar with Yao, they had to use simple plays first. Then, next year they can work on more plays.
Yeah and about all those plays happen by 1. Players not with the ball trying to make believe they'll actually see the ball once Mobley has his hands on the Rock 2. Called offensive sets that dont appear to work beyond the 1st and 2nd quarter because after those quarters it becomes ALLLLLLL Top of the key weave, with a mix of P&R, and ISO. Can you guys imagine what happens when this team either 1. Listens to Rudy when (and if) he demands to involve everyone in the offensive set. 2. Start passing the freaking ball. Once again a set of announcers lambasted the Rox for their lack of any kind of Offensive game plan, and execution. On the bright side EVERY team in the NBA should absolutely fear the Future of the Rox. If they ever can get it right......Man we are going to be LIGHTS freaking out. Im talking better than the mid 90's teams. If we ever come toghether like those teams did and decide to do it as a team.........shudder.
Codell.. The word is out, that the Jazz are going to run their pick and roll with Stockton and Malone..Now that everyone knows...should they stop using it so much?
Of course not, its been successful for years, just like Rudy T's plays will be, however simple they are.
I knew they were going to run that play Friday night and I am sure that everyone watching the game knew it was coming including the Lakers. But SF still got a great look and drained the trey. Not only that, Yao practically walked toward the basket with no one on him. Even if SF misses, Yao is there for the putback. I wonder why we don't run that play more often. It sure works better than the PnR that often results in a forced shot from outside.
